{"conversationCode":"332-043","tapeNumber":332,"conversationNumber":43,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-332-043","startDateTime":"1972-04-25T18:39:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-25T18:45:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1972","startTime":"1:39 PM","endDate":"25-Apr-1972","endTime":"1:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 1:45 pm. 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(President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"332-042","nextCode":"332-044","tapeTranscriptFile":"332a.mp3,332b.mp3,332c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":18892,"end":18912.17,"text":"Let's not, let's, you know, why don't you work on a paragraph on that, and in the meantime, take this and follow it."},{"start":18912.73,"end":18915.74,"text":"No, I know the campaign."},{"start":18918.54,"end":18919.84,"text":"Do you know that better than anyone?"},{"start":18919.86,"end":18920.1,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":18920.38,"end":18920.6,"text":"Sure."},{"start":18920.62,"end":18921.37,"text":"That's what they said."},{"start":18921.45,"end":18922.51,"text":"They can't say it differently."},{"start":18922.81,"end":18923.19,"text":"That's true."},{"start":18923.21,"end":18930.52,"text":"But my point is, we are in an election year, and I think it's just as well to make a little bit of a point."},{"start":18930.58,"end":18933.24,"text":"And this is very important to make to the Russians."},{"start":18934.31,"end":18936.25,"text":"I don't give a shit about what happened in the election."},{"start":18937.13,"end":18941.81,"text":"See, that's the point I'm coming to."},{"start":18942.85,"end":18945.74,"text":"I'm not talking to you."},{"start":18945.76,"end":18947.3,"text":"I'm talking to the Russians."},{"start":18947.34,"end":18949.12,"text":"And you know I made it pretty significant."},{"start":18949.14,"end":18949.94,"text":"You know, we've had three arguments."},{"start":18949.98,"end":18950.08,"text":"Right."},{"start":18950.1,"end":18951.84,"text":"They think they have a lever on you, and you want to tell them that they don't."},{"start":18951.88,"end":18952.74,"text":"That's what an argument is."},{"start":18952.88,"end":18953.24,"text":"It's a problem."},{"start":18953.36,"end":18955.04,"text":"It's a problem."},{"start":18955.24,"end":18957.47,"text":"It's a problem."},{"start":18957.49,"end":18958.47,"text":"It's a problem."},{"start":18960.96,"end":18964.37,"text":"Thank you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":18892,"end":18983.125,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consults with his valet, Manolo Sanchez, regarding the development of a specific communication strategy intended for the Soviet Union. Nixon emphasizes his indifference toward domestic election-year optics, focusing instead on demonstrating to the Soviets that they lack political leverage over his administration. 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