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Start Date: 25-Apr-1972 1:55 PM

End Date: 25-Apr-1972 2:25 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.White House operatorSanchez, ManoloMacGregor, ClarkKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:17:25

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:54:43

332a.mp3

332b.mp3

332c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, Manolo Sanchez, Clark MacGregor, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:55 pm to 2:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 332-048 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 332-48

Date: April 25, 1972
Time: 1:55 pm - 2:25 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

     The President's speech
          -Contents
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     Vietnam
          -Bombing
               -Intensity
          -Soviet Summit
               -Washington Post editorial
                     -Possible cancellation
               -Meetings with Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Soviets
                            -Colson's conversation with H. R. Haldeman
          -John B. Connally's backgrounder
               -Publicity
                     -Los Angeles Times
                     -Richard G. Valeriani
               -The President's determination
                     -Legacy for future
                     -Risks to reelection and summit
                     -Credibility of foreign policy
               -Valeriani's report
               -Image of the President
          -Kissinger's trip to Moscow
          -North Vietnamese invasion
          -Hawks
               -Colson's conversation with Barry M. Goldwater
               -Support for the President
               -Goldwater's speech
               -Democrats' support
          -Madame Nguyen Thi Binh's letter
               -Call for repudiation
                     -William E. Jenner

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The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 1:55 and 1:59
pm.
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     [Conversation No. 332-48A]

     [See Conversation No. 23-67]

[End of telephone conversation]

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          -Bombing
              -Geroge H. Gallup poll
                   -Approval rating
                         -Gallup reaction
              -Louis P. Harris poll
                   -Increase in approval
                   -Colson's conversation with Harris
                   -Impact on public
                         -Increased support

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:55 pm.

     Refreshment

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:59 pm.

     Vietnam
          -Bombing
                -Harris poll
                -Haldeman's poll
                     -Confidentiality
          -The President's speech
                -Impact on approval
          -Polls
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              -Harris
                   -Colson's conversation with Harris
                   -Timing
                   -Methods
                        -Questions
                   -Sensitivity to public mood
              -Gallup
                   -Questions
                        -Bias
                        -Proper wording


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         -Success of the President's policies
              -Creighton W. Abrams's report
              -Public approval

    Economy
        -Cost of living
        -Bad news
             -C. Jackson Grayson, Jr.
             -Corporate profits
                    -Decline
                    -Rebound
                    -Grayson's statement
                    -The President's speech
        -Stock market
             -Kissinger's trip to Moscow
             -Volatility

    White House staff
         -Jews
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                -Kissinger, William L. Safire and Herbert Stein

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:55 pm.

     Refreshment

     Vietnam
          -Colson's views
               -Sanchez's reaction

     Press corps

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:59 pm.

     Vietnam
          -Clark MacGregor's work

The President talked with MacGregor between 1:59 and 2:01 pm.

     [Conversation No. 332-48B]

     [See Conversation No. 23-68]

[End of telephone conversation]

     MacGregor
         -Work
              -Colson's evaluation
         -Knowledge of Congress

     Vietnam
          -The President's speech
                -Colson's conversation with Harris
                -Harris poll
                -Albert E. Sindlinger
                -Gallup poll
                     -Bias
          -Polls
                -Sindlinger Newsletter
                     -Newsweek
                     -Public support
                           -Compared with Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1953
                           -Solidity
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                          -News reports
                                -Time and Newsweek
                    -Kissinger's trip
                          -Colson's conversation with Sindlinger
                    -Support from the President
               -Harris
                    -Poll taken after the President's speech
                          -Competition with Gallup


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    Campaign practices
        -George S. McGovern
             -Pennsylvania primary
        -Edmund S. Muskie
             -Pennsylvania primary
                   -Colson's conversation with Frank L. Rizzo

    Vietnam
         -Kissinger's trip to Moscow
              -The President's stay at Camp David
                    -Press suppositions
              -Leonid I. Brezhnev
         -Soviet Summit
              -Washington Post editorial
              -Kissinger's trip
                    -Benefits
                           -Robert J. Dole's reaction
                           -End of war
         -Negotiations
              -Failure
                    -Resumption of Bbmbing
                           -Public support
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     -The President's policies
          -Credibility since January 25
          -Public support for efforts
          -White House support
                -Morale
          -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
     -Bombing
          -Kissinger's trip to Paris
                -Private talks
     -Kissinger
          -Brezhnev


Richard G. Kleindienst
     -Confirmation
          -Filibuster
          -Chances
          -Charles H. Percy
                -Public pressure
          -Edward M. Kennedy
                -Opposition
                      -Filibuster
                -Mistakes
                -Aides
                      -Investigation of Securities and Exchange Commission [SEC] files
          -William J. Casey
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    Kissinger’s trip
         -Secrecy
         -Briefing
         -Camp David
         -Sense of intrigue

    US-Soviet relations
        -Kissinger's trip
              -Secrecy
              -Press
                     -Discovery
              -Location
                     -Paris
                     -Colson's discovery
                     -Camp David

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         -Washington Post
             -Kissinger's trip
                   -Reaction
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                  -Kenneth W. Clawson
                       -Vendetta

     Press
             -Los Angeles Times
                  -Story on Soviet trip
             -Washington Post
                  -Coverage of Soviet trip

The President talked with Kissinger between 2:13 and 2:15 pm.

     [Conversation No. 332-48C]

     [See Conversation No. 23-70]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Press
             -Reston

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 2:15 pm.

     Refreshment [?]

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:25 pm.

     Vietnam
          -The President's policies
               -Public support
               -Kissinger's trip
                     -Contacts with the President
                            -Brezhnev
          -Press
               -Misinformation
                     -Kissinger's trip
               -Bias
               -Clawson
                     -Hostility to press
                     -Reaction to Kissinger's trip
          -Kissinger's trip
               -Democrats
               -Timing
          -Phases of struggle
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                -North Vietnamese invasion
                       -Miscalculation
                            -Robert C. Byrd
                                 -Opposition to antiwar resolution
                            -Binh letter
           -Binh letter
                -Senators


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Colson left at 2:25 pm.