Nixon White House TapesTape 333 › Conversation 333-011

Nixon & Kissinger on Vietnam War and Military withdrawal

Wednesday, April 26, 1972 · 1:10 PM–1:45 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building ·2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation333-011 onTape 333 (tape position 02:10:48–02:14:24)StartWednesday, April 26, 1972 at 1:10 PMEndWednesday, April 26, 1972 at 1:45 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 333-011 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss the endgame for U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, debating whether to fully withdraw all personnel or maintain a presence of advisors and civilians. Nixon expresses concern over domestic political pressures and the perception of American weakness, framing the conflict's mounting casualties in the context of historical wars. The discussion centers on maintaining resolve against political critics and the potential impact of the ongoing battle at Kontum on U.S. policy decisions.

  • Vietnam War
  • Military withdrawal
  • Political resolve
  • U.S. advisors
  • Kontum
  • Casualties

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I wonder if we can now see the day when no more Americans will be involved there at all.
Basically, there will be civilians, there will be advisors.
You see what I'm getting at?
I wonder if we'll be involved.
Or should we just leave it and just breathe on it and see what happens?
We're Americans.
All right.
Okay.
Okay, you're gonna have a great night.
I just wanted to show you that you're okay.
Yeah.
Well, the drive.
They might have done it.
I guess that we just aren't gonna be scared.
That's the point.
All right, now I stopped the vehicle.
Great battle for a world war.
We've got a great loss of hundreds of thousands of men and so forth, great commanders, presidents, and so on.
We're going to get scared because of them.
That's what we've got to get rid of.
That's what we've got to get rid of.
You think it's about weakness.
You don't want to make a great question and you think it's better.
I don't know.

On April 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 333-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 333-11

Date: April 26, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with an unknown person [Henry A. Kissinger?].

       Vietnam

             -Report
             -US military involvement
                   -Termination
                   -Civilians
                   -Advisors
             -Briefing
             -Troop losses
                   -Compared to World Wars I and II
             -Kontum
             -Liberals
             -US response
  • 023-080 1:10 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-009 1:10 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-010 1:10 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-012 1:10 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-013 1:10 PM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-014 1:10 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 333-015 1:10 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:45 pm.
  • 023-081 1:45 PM · 20 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 1:45 pm to 2:07 pm.

Conversation 333-011, April 26, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/333-011 (accessed September 18, 2026).