{"conversationCode":"333-023","tapeNumber":333,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-333-023","startDateTime":"1972-04-26T21:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-26T21:37:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Apr-1972","startTime":"4:34 PM","endDate":"26-Apr-1972","endTime":"4:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:34 pm to 4:37 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 333-023 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 333-23\n\nDate: April 26, 1972\nTime: 4:34 pm - 4:37 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nH. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the President.\n\n       [See Conversation No. 23-87]","filename":["333-023.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:17:31","tapeEnd":"03:22:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"333-022","nextCode":"333-024","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":20.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":20.9,"end":21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":21.02,"end":24.54,"text":"I was deliberately sitting here when he called Burt, so I know that Burt told me several times that he was going to be gone tomorrow."},{"start":24.56,"end":25.4,"text":"So maybe he was going to be gone tomorrow."},{"start":25.42,"end":25.78,"text":"It is what it was."},{"start":25.8,"end":26.88,"text":"Well, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe that's what happened."},{"start":26.9,"end":27.41,"text":"And I said, no, you know,"},{"start":32.92,"end":55.28,"text":"I hope to Christ that's true."},{"start":55.3,"end":57.12,"text":"Now we're all ensemble on this."},{"start":57.14,"end":58.04,"text":"And we only, Henry will have the competition."},{"start":58.06,"end":58.98,"text":"He'll give all the people they can reach that."},{"start":59.01,"end":59.52,"text":"That's what we want to do."},{"start":59.55,"end":61.29,"text":"And as part of our own people, they don't have to see it, but Henry and Greene come on."},{"start":61.31,"end":61.53,"text":"Well, yeah."},{"start":63.4,"end":87.2,"text":"But people, we don't know."},{"start":87.22,"end":88.08,"text":"We don't know how people react to rhetoric."},{"start":88.1,"end":88.84,"text":"Rhetoric may or may not be something."},{"start":88.86,"end":89.2,"text":"So I would, yeah."},{"start":89.22,"end":89.66,"text":"And they might say it."},{"start":89.68,"end":90,"text":"They can't tell."},{"start":90.02,"end":90.38,"text":"They can't put it."},{"start":91.53,"end":118.33,"text":"quite as hard as I played it last night."},{"start":118.35,"end":119.45,"text":"You know, they're having problems with what I'm saying."},{"start":119.47,"end":120.99,"text":"Well, this was the part where the boys would all come out and talk about it."},{"start":121.83,"end":147.72,"text":"Well, you know, everybody has a different view of all of this stuff."},{"start":147.74,"end":147.94,"text":"All right."},{"start":147.96,"end":148.16,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss the coordination of administration surrogates to manage public perception following the President's recent rhetoric. They address potential scheduling conflicts for key staff members while emphasizing the need for a unified message in response to ongoing political developments. The pair expresses concern over public reaction to the President's previous night's performance and strategizes on how to effectively deploy Henry Kissinger and other officials to reinforce the administration's stance.","topics":["Public Relations","Political Strategy","Messaging","Surrogates","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:39:06.155Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","political-strategy","messaging","surrogates","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":148,"audioFiles":[{"file":"333-023.mp3","bytes":5929587,"durationSec":148.11,"bitrate":320273,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.908Z","transcriptGapSeconds":120,"transcriptGapShare":0.81,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/333-023.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/333-023","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/333/conversation-333-023","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}