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Well, the fears don't seem to be... Yeah.

Well, yeah, the heel pads are all fine in there.

That's what they're interested in.

It's good.

It's a good briefing.

It's a good idea to set them in.

I don't know if there is any problem with it.

They understand things are going to run tight.

Ken sent me up and called up and talked to Tom Huston.

I don't know if there was anything in this or not, but Huston said, you know, he did the Bonnie Hall study for us.

That's the book.

All this stuff together.

He says that Johnson told Harriman to get explicit assurances from NOM that they knew precisely what would happen, that we would renew the bombing that they had made, and that Harriman conveyed such assurances directly back to LBJ.

Houston, remembering that and looking at the first context and all this crap that we've done making up and everything, has a feeling that we ought to

At least consider putting out the whole damn bombing call.

We've got to be damned.

It'll take a little work to be sure, but he says, you know, it shows that Hanoi is lying when it says it didn't know anything about any agreement that was assured by Harriman.

Then you put all that, and then let Harriman explain that they didn't agree or something, and then he lied to Johnson.

Put it out.

It'll make a very good story.

Don't let it copper our story right now, but for a weekend story, it's very good.

Don't tell Henry.

Just put it out.

Houston are a very strong team.

We should not leave it.

We should put it out officially.

We shouldn't get into a game of selecting.

You'll have to tell Henry that.

Please do.

But, well, I just got the book to take a look at and see whether they've really done some stuff.

Houston gets excited about something that may not be clear enough in there to put out, and that's the thing I want to be sure of.

I lean very strongly to put it out.

So you try to sell it, Andy, will you?

Yeah.

You have a good story to tell.

You'll help us enormously in proving they're perfectly, you know, so far.

Yeah.

I think it was.

I want to get the dope anywhere I can go.

I like it in arms, sir.

It looks like it might have some possibilities for us.

The hops are all right.

I think they've got bait nuts in here.

Look, if you get a deal, they don't care if you told the fucking press.

I put it that way, I said, it isn't telling the American people, it's telling the press.

You agree?

Sure.

And Henry makes that point in his briefing.

You know, he plays it sort of ingenuously.

I mean, he just kind of said, well, you know, we go to less than 24 hours after I get back here and tell them exactly what we did.

That's good, though, anyway.

I mean, it's good for us anyway to say that.

It's not a game of just next to me hammering by the track.

Everybody's on board.

Oh yeah, I think so.

See there, now they're all shot off in a different direction.

And all of a sudden, they're going to be flying back.

It's really kind of, it's really kind of confusing.

It's not so very, it's kind of confusing primaries, isn't it, today?

If all of a sudden, you know, they're going to be next to each other.

It's hard to live, yeah.

I'd rather hate we had to do it all today.

I thank God we weren't in it.

Oh, yeah.

I'd say we were really in it.

We had to put the boat down and all that.

Sound fell in there.

Don't look at us like that.

I will have plenty of time.

And so I would just come to something in the period of 6, 12, 13.

If you've got anything worth a damn, you know, don't go making more worth a thing for something else.

Well, I've got one.

Well, I don't know.

I don't know whether you want to do it or not, but we turned down.

I'll just come back on it.

Elon has the...

or kind of help Korea on the basis that we're trying to get their troops to fight harder and that the guy needs to kick the ass of the father in prison.

I think this is a good way to go on.

Yes.

There is much that I must say, and we've tossed out all the info.

You didn't expect me to have a little time, so let's back over and go back and see.

My brother, please.

No, I didn't know, I didn't decide actually, this morning.

We tried Andrews on that paper.

But it did work out better.

Due to the fact that...

He's more of a speechwriter than the other guys do.

I mean, he works... the way you're looking for a guy to work.

He puts in his own ideas, but he isn't so obsessed with them that he gets the whole damn tone changed.

Okay.

Perfect.

Yeah!

And the timing just happens to work out damn well.

You won't get any credit for it.

And as far as that, it's been sort of a hundred, I mean 125 years in Congress, ain't that anything that happened at all?

Who's good for the 125 that's good?

There's a general idea of something to do, and it's a good signal to someone.

People like us that aren't there.

Hello?

Yeah?

Hello?

How'd you get along?

Hello?

Yeah, but these, it's only in-house.

These assholes are just pissed off they didn't work there.

Why don't they watch you more closely?

Okay.

They're pretty shaken up by this announcement they're having.

How are you going to handle the thing tonight?

Oh, you're just going to put out another one.

7.30?

No, not the dinner.

I don't care about that.

Good.

All right.

Bye.

Oh, I really think his presence is crucial that he hit him on that.

That they hit him on that before it was any... Yeah, what a credibility.

That was a shift.

I don't know what the difference is.

I mean, it's really, it's a pissy-ass thing for them.

Do we tell them in advance that I'm sending him to Moscow?

Huh?

Or to China?

I don't think the American people give one shit.

So they all mow around and write columns about him.

The President is a secret.

Bullshit.

I don't think they'll write, I don't think they'll pitch in here and drop a line in the source.

I don't care.

I don't

That one where I think he may expect them to know where Henry is, but they don't expect us to tell them.

Yeah.

They're top of the world.

Top of the world and also backed all the way.

You know, it's an easy one.

Back off and shoot him down and shoot him down.

You know, that's what I'm trying to do.

Oh, let me do that.

Yeah.

We never see any result from something like that.

Oh.

It has to bother them.

It bothers us.

That's right.

Well, we sit around and worry about what they're saying.

Well, I don't know.

I don't know.

.

I don't need any answers, but I mean the kind of things that might come up, because I think I know them all.

Basically, that one's up for the press conference.

I usually just update John.

Update him.

Well, as he said, what you'll get there will be 99% more policy.

I don't think so.

I don't think you'll get anything there.

Well, if you want to be on the phone, you're welcome.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

You never know, a congressman, maybe an 8th or 6th or 8th could be elected on this, you know.

I killed Jerry Borg, he's on that issue.

They voted the wrong way, or took the wrong position, and I kept saying it and saying it and saying it.

Which one are they on?

I don't know.

I haven't seen it here.

I don't know what he is.

I don't know.

You better check it.

They say sugar.

Alex would say he's got to have Ford if he has Albert.

He's got to have Ford as well as Albert and both.

Ford, Albert, and both.

or something like that.

Good.

And I just, you know, save it in the workout room.

I do.

And I go to practice.

Why don't you ask, uh, do you consider the barber, you know, the barber, you know, the showroom, right?

I got it here.

Okay, and have Steve see if the barber can keep it at 530.

Sure.