{"conversationCode":"334-038","tapeNumber":334,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-334-038","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T17:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T18:51:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"1:52 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"2:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:51 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 334-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 334-38\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:52 pm and 2:51 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger\n               -Time","filename":["334-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:47:28","tapeEnd":"03:49:14","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"334-037","nextCode":"334-039","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":3.24,"text":"I told Henry for 2.45."},{"start":3.26,"end":11.53,"text":"He won't be back anyway for lunch."},{"start":11.55,"end":13.63,"text":"2.45, I'll see you here."},{"start":13.65,"end":14.47,"text":"What's that?"},{"start":15.13,"end":17.82,"text":"Well, doesn't he?"},{"start":17.84,"end":18.24,"text":"Well, three is fine."},{"start":18.26,"end":18.68,"text":"Three is all right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with an aide to coordinate his afternoon schedule, specifically focusing on the timing of a meeting with National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger. After assessing Kissinger's availability following his lunch, they deliberated between a 2:45 pm or 3:00 pm appointment. The discussion concluded with the firm decision to schedule the meeting for 3:00 pm.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Henry Kissinger","White House Operations","Time Management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:44:46.206Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","henry-kissinger","white-house-operations","time-management"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"334-038.mp3","bytes":758383,"durationSec":18.83,"bitrate":322246,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.908Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/334-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/334-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/334/conversation-334-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}