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So they're trying to get your damn state worked out.

The state will come to the state.

No, sir, you can't screw around with that.

You have to.

I know, but I just haven't.

I can do it now.

I know you don't.

I'm not talking about you.

It's strictly a dumb problem.

I think we've got a lot of issues to work on.

I didn't work it out.

I just meant it right now.

Oh, I don't know.

It doesn't matter what you think about it.

It doesn't matter.

We've got to get something.

I'm on favor of this district.

We'll see if we see Cooper die.

I don't care.

Anybody can die any time tonight.

That's right.

But you and your family and the country would be in a message on that paper.

Yeah.

That's right.

I think it's a death story since Eisenhower died.

He expressed his sorrow through reading it.

I think that's it.

I remember that back in 2001 with Teddy Carpenter's ambitious criticism.

That story, this story, and this story don't.

Yeah.

Refugees swollen open burial battle.

All right.

Refugees swollen open burial battle.

We got that done.

I think we're

All set, we'll be wrapping it up and see if we can get there.

Put it in the road, that way.

So that's gonna have a mind-stating justice department.

They have a great hall there.

The door will open 24 hours from now.

Jeff, you can call me.

No, I'm not going to call you.

You can call me if you want to call me.

Oh, no.

I've got a lot of money.

I've got a lot of money tomorrow.

There's no question that if you cut down the measure pressure to the Senate, you'll have an investigation of the FBI, and that we cannot have a case that's going to be sort of biased and close to battle.

We don't want to.

It's not whether or not you win the election or what happens there.

It's the question that under the climate of the campaign period, of the election period, and the president moving to the Senate, I think it should be put in a positive way.

I believe that it's tremendously important.

The FBI is not becoming part of the political issue.

Oh, shit.

to one of the other 33 months, and that's a great station to show up.

It's great.

Well, tough in the sense that we thought he was going to be Deputy Attorney General, and all of a sudden he comes back as Director of the FBI.

We thought he was going to be Deputy Attorney General for so long.

We'll see.

He'll do what he's told, I'm sure.

Hello, Al?

Hello?

Yeah?

Oh, Al, I've got you in a meeting, haven't I?

Oh.

Oh, good, good, good, good.

Well, that's good.

I hope you're fine.

I would just like to check.

Is there anything new?

I was looking at the paper, and they're talking about the panic, the way, and that sort of thing.

But is there nothing new that we have from your morning report?

I hope we can get a little of that reported.

I ask you this, for you to consider before we meet.

Why don't we, frankly, just make a command decision that you don't barge around anymore in the canteen area?

You know what I mean?

You've given enough of a fight there, but to really concentrate the air power and the

where the real bellows could be fought, put it there.

In other words, if the enemy concentrates, maybe we'd better concentrate where it counts.

Right.

Maybe if you say they fight very well over there.

Right.

But you have no information on the way, except that we still have a good division there, right?

That's true.

They start shoving away the city, and the holes, the bars are off with regard to bombing.

The dice, right?

Don't you agree?

Okay, fine.

I'm nervous.

I don't know if your arms are anymore that long.

Oh, we've been compensated for that by our nasty aircraft.

More than that, it just shows you the difference between fear and brutality, and so forth, pain and panic.

The American style of training, you know, like I said, I agree with what I've heard, and what I've heard today about our own health.

The price is very good.

If you tell Ray, I mean, I mean, the editor, but the only person who's got an ad in the radio.

And that'll get the biggest buzz.

Sure, the biggest buzz.

And so these news, it'll get a bigger, it'll get more public attention.

More than the funeral.

Not even the funeral.

Oh, sure, sure.

What I was going to say, though, what will be the biggest thing, how do we do it, how is that the statement?

It will be what he said about his gun, and he cracked down what I said, because of his strength, his courage.

Well, the flags are in hand, man.

The flag of the FBI is high, and the flag of the FBI is low.

The flag of the FBI is high.

The flag of the FBI is low.

The flag of the FBI is high.

I think it's really true, this storm, but anyway, it goes through this storm, but any campaign that would have been kicked around, oh, it's really been an issue.

And so I think that's what we're worried about.

That's my justification.

We're just saying, I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on.

But it's the right way.

We couldn't go wrong.

We never expected it this way.

Scots.

Good job.

Did he give his opening speech?

Did he do that?

Well, this is the way it's supposed to be for us.

Something.

and take that machine out if you want.

No, no, no, no.

Not now.

Take that machine away.

Hello?

Trish, I wanted to tell you that because I won't be able to get back tonight.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, right, right.

Okay, sweetie.

All right, honey, bye.

Bye.

Yeah.

You know, uh... You know, in a very subtle way, I'm sure you can realize her.

You probably won't see it this way.

That's why I was so pleased with this picture.

Well, the White House in January said...

I don't know whether they... Why did they do that?

They had the spec list.

Jerry Wilson was their wife.

She had heard your statement on the radio and thought it was so helpful.

He was mad as hell at me.

He said, you didn't come into the house.

Look around the house.

And I said, excuse me, do you have a few other things to worry about that night?

And he said, well, Nellie was very upset.

She said afterwards, Bob, did you even take a tour around the house?

They always want to show their house.

And I guess I should have done it.

But I go to a party like that, and I say, get out.

You're completely out of the way.

You're right.

You don't want to get to some other place.

I should have done it.

I should have loved the children.

I should have loved them.

And he loves it.

He was talking about the gift.

It's silly.

That's really quite a thing.

I'll tell you the story about it.

I won't tell you.

In the World Fair of 1939.

Yeah, he said he was sending a handbook about it.

Yeah.

I got to get a letter off him.

That's quite a thing.

Yeah.

$4,000.

You ought to put it out in your office for a while.

Put it out here and put it out there.

He was pretty good, wasn't he?

Yeah, he was very good.

And we talked a lot about not feeling hired, about the war.

And nobody, one of those things, nobody could say, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey.

He was talking about his barbecue, the big barbecue.

And he said what he wants to do on that is make it about 1,500 people.

The 1,500 couples, 30,000 people.

He said the president can't shake hands.

He said, but what if he could just kind of move around through them with me a little bit, you know, sort of touch it up around and give a little talk.

And he said, only after the convention.

After the Democratic convention.

That's what he wants to do in July.

And his point was,

So we just, we may use that for another purpose.

Is that going to be the time to announce it?

Depends on how that commission comes out, but we may want to use that bargain to announce it.

The thing about that is maybe the, when I put down a crafter, and he launches a semi-crasper next to it, or a crafter next to it, or whatever it is that he becomes careful about, he's thinking about it.

I don't think I would hold him to that.

I think he wants a national...

Well, it's got to be national.

A national figurehead role.

He doesn't want to be the Texas, you know, chairman or something like that.

And he wants something that makes him look important.

He doesn't want to just be a behind-the-scenes, you know, the former secretary of the party.

Oh, sure.

No.

Yeah.

No.

Well, the other thing he hates is Indians and UN-type people.

He hates all the UN people out there.

He's a complete asshole.

He's always the Indian ambassador and the watch.

That's right.

The law of the watch doesn't have any Indians.

I just think it's wrong.

President Putin, too.

.

John and I were talking about it a little bit.

One thing that we've worked out, and it might be, if you want any of you, it might do anything, but if he could drive to Annapolis instead of chopper up on, he could go out on Saturday, he could run the Sequoia parking out there, go up and do something between here and Annapolis on Saturday.

He could get a story out.

And when he was sandwiched,

This is a bad idea.

If you only knew it would be good to have them pick about six cadets and mission, or maples, and have them come out and have dinner with the young and support them.

Young.

Damn good of the young in our division because those were young.

And maybe help, you know, a couple of the young guys in the staff, you know, like that.

Or something like that.

I've been with astronauts for the rest of my life.

I don't know if it would be much better.

Why not do it?

I don't know.

It might be a thing to do.

It's a hell of a lot better than having to get on the aircraft.

They'll probably just do this Saturday night and Sunday morning.

You could spend the night on the boat on that Saturday.

Oh.

anchored out at the top of the mountains and then go into the jackal service some of the morning.

So they get out of here and cruise back down Sunday afternoon if they feel like it, or come back by jackal.

The idea would be to do something on the way down and get their...

You know, I'm all for it.

I love this.

That's what I told John.

We talked about it.

The real problem is the key writing classes are big.

Some of the ideas won't face the community, but they will end up in the seasonals.

They will say, you know, it's a problem.

You don't have to do this again.

They may decide to do it.

I don't know how to do it again.

I don't know how to lie.

Well, yes, yes, one point.

I can get to something together, but the price will work.

They really got to get it to me by tomorrow, so that's what I'm doing.

Okay.

I'm glad it's on the radio.

It reaches a lot of people.

Yes, I want that.

Let me do a little statement on that.

It rhymes all day, over and over and over.

I'm making it against credit.

Sure.

I agree.

The FBI is so important.

We need to be the best man for Kenyon General, the best man for the FBI, the best man for the CIA.

As far as the CIA, we're all in the same position.

Yeah, and they're getting the what they're doing to them, sorry.

They feel a lot of initiative.

Except for one, other than that one bad picture, most of the pictures go our way.

Good.

And I said, yeah, because the bad stuff's being done by the other people.

That's going to be a tough one to figure out how we can't do that.

I did it the easy way.

I did it in degrees.

you were the invasion, so what do you still do with us?

I mean, go ahead.

Then I said, in spite of the fact that the invaders are armed by the Russian, you know, Soviet, like, aid, massive aid, I think we all need any questions.

Well, the first one was canceled, but then the final thing is, even if they want to go ahead, we feel it would be better to delay the summit until the invasion.

We get a pretty good reading.

It's not all published in full telephone.

But we don't want to come to Christ.

We don't want to come in right here.

We'd like to offer three to four people then.

We don't have to break it down by anything, so that's good enough.

I just want to get a sort of a more effective decision.

You know, it's dead.

If we go now, Sequoia, we'd be in the boat at 6.30.

So maybe you want to go ahead.

Did you want to take me back, sir?

Yeah, you might take me.

We have a little fun.

Thank you.

It'd just be three of us.

Yeah.

So I did, the first one I asked, the same one we'd asked last year, I would take one of my pipes alone.

So that, you know, Fred, exactly the same way the president is trying to do whatever it is.

Do you approve or disapprove?

So we can get a reading on that.

And then look at the people on the basis of whether they approve or disapprove of the summit overall.

Because you had 20% or whatever it was that disapproved of the Coquitlam Summit already.

Not very many.

And I just want to look at the 74 who approved.

And it just changes their mind.

It's amazing that they're just copying.

How do they copy?

They ship out of line.

They have 2,200 .

I don't understand how they do little things and then everybody sort of kind of goes on about life.

They start to move back.

Saturday night.

I don't know what the whole thing is this week.

I'm not going to talk about the war.

I'm going to talk about the service to the country.

It would be a nice little speech.

I hope you heard that.

I'll be working on the question of where the president speaks in Annapolis.

I've heard back on that.

I'm not working on it.

The question is where the president speaks in Annapolis.

Clive Colson of the FBI.

Oh, yeah.

Fascinating.

Fascinating with the race tracks and the movie set and all that.

That's probably the more it comes through.

We need better kind of slap something together.

Saturday evening.

I also got a period.

Is it next week or next week?

Oh, that's the start of it.

Well, I'm going to jump out of the plane and follow the flight.

Did you go to Russia?

No, I could do it the following week before going to Russia.

Yeah.

So, on this day, I know you were Akers' closest friend, and Pat and I want to honor Pete's ascendancy.

And we'll, uh, you know, I'll be there, of course, you know, over the next few years.

I said, uh, why, he's, uh, he has this great, uh, thing, you know, you remember, and all of his damn tractors are going to look damn small.

Huh?

Right by and by.

There's a private employee .

We've got that under control.

The private files are in a separate building.

And there's a very specified access.

Nobody was allowed access to them.

We still didn't know what to do with them.

The private files .

You have a room, sir.

Yeah, go ahead.

They say they can't do it in the chapel.

They're proposing it need to be done in the formation outside or in the armory.

That's all they say.

It's not suitable for the armory.

It has to move in the armory.

The mess hall is not suitable.

No.

Because it's in three wings of the chapel.

There's only one third and a quarter in the chapel.

The tradition has been that they never have a speaker in the chapel, and they don't want to break into the chapel.

Yeah.

You could attend chapel service with one third of the court and have that third march on to the armory.

The other two thirds would already be in there.

Just remember, let's have it form in terms of being, in things that I can speak comfortably in, rather than in terms of outside, the vision, and all that kind of stuff.

Dose.

Yeah, it's probably bigger than dose.

It's pretty big, though.

They came from all over the world.

Yeah.

I would guess he's a guy that's been among the bunch from here on out.

A man.

See if there's anything you want to tell us while you're here.

Okay.

You got anything you ever want to say?

That's a very interesting question.

I mean, don't you know that?

You know, that's very hard.

I still don't understand.

It should be the same story.

I just can't have it be the same story.

But it would be done tomorrow.

There's a lot of speculation.

I saw that the day it was off.

I went in the morning to it.

Why don't we put out the story?

I will have an announcement tomorrow.

And if they want me to tell them that they're left, I'll have to act on it.

He's not going to do anything right now.

I'm going to punch him up now.

I'll take it.

Mr. Speaker, please.

That's meant to keep you safe.

The president will announce it.

Get away with it.

As I told Bob, I thought the way it should be handled, we should just play something with the fact that I don't want that because that Edgar Hoover is a man.

The President suggests you simply start moving now if you get inquiries.

There will be an announcement in the morning with regard to the appointment of an acting director.

That should then no longer stall any speculation.

The President has made a decision.

The President has made a decision and will announce it in the morning.

I think that's good, don't you?

Yeah.

That's it.

So if you could get that out, you could do it just by not being specific about anything except there'll be an announcement as to the designation of an acting director tomorrow at the morning briefing.

You need to eliminate an option for him.

Well, I didn't ask you in the other room, but I really don't think you want to reach him.

I guess he wants to know if you want to go on one step further and say that you do not intend to send a nomination to Congress this year.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

That'll start all the speculation.

Now, Justice Barr is saying that there'll be an announcement in the morning with regard to the action.

That's right.

Good.

Thank you.

The speculation is going to be inevitable, Rob.

Well, that's right.

See, that frees the president out of an option, and I just don't think we're there yet.

All right.

I know he's not in a relationship, and I know it's tough, but I just think he's got to keep going.

I just don't think he's right to do it.

I just had the same story that the poor man did, that I was waiting, that I was all ready to jump in.

Yeah, but that looks at us, this looks at us, that's right, that I had it all ready.

Yeah, I just didn't feel right.

Push the button on the computer, the audio falls out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's all right.

And what is your view now?

Oh, I think so.

I think it's how, the way I presented it, I think we should centralize it.

So it must be kept on a partisan column.

And therefore, I believe it should be a nomination.

of his permanent successor to be sent to the Senate after the election rather than before.

Consequently, my point is that I am only naming an actual director at this time to serve until after the election.

Let's say the governor, when the governor is elected, will then have an amendment so that we will not have a stop and start, a break, a condemnation.

I think it's a hell of a strong case anyway.

Are there other reasons you don't want to do it?

Of course, sir.

The main reason being, John, when that thing is sent, if it were sent now, there'd be about then this investigation under the ban of the FBI.

Yeah.

Don't you think so?

Absolutely.

What do you think?

What about the FBI?

Exactly.

All kinds of promises from Martin Luther King.

Yeah.

Did you wiretap?

Yeah.

Do you believe in protectivity, preventive detention?

Yeah.

That's great.

Oh, absolutely.

And you just would have that in your mind so much that you couldn't nominate kind of any one.

I'd have to nominate one that the Senate would approve, rather than one that the country needs.

That's where I'm going to do it.

Now, put yourself in the position, John, of the Senators.

What are those bachelors going to say?

Well, he's ducking the thing, or he shouldn't have an act of director.

It's a pretty hard answer.

I don't think so.

I think they would have to take an almost unreasonable position.

I think this was one that you should be briefing on.

However, the only thing is, didn't the Clint Eastwood come out and say, or you?

It's really a presidential problem.

I heard that the client was going to do it, or I don't know.

Well, I mean, I heard that he was because he had the power.

That's what I was going to do, attorney general.

That's the power according to the case of I don't know.

I didn't have any questions.

But if there's any briefings from the heart of us, I don't want to say we're going to do all kinds of issues, but there's an unbelievable complication that's in front of our eyes.

As I said to my board attendants a few minutes ago, I want to tell them that there's quite a round score in the Congress of the Senate and the Senate.

And so I say we're very appropriate to prefer a quick appointment, a quick nomination, or no nomination this year.

We can talk about it a while.

And he said, he said, no nomination at all.

And Jerry said, I would never want to be quoted on this.

He said, I have to deny I ever said it, but Sandy Wang is not the kind of man you're very proud of.

You're a wonderful guy.

You have a very good company.

Sandy could be re-elected in the office.

Well.

I got a bunch of odds and ends.

That had been piling up.

Now, we have a monumental problem with the bicentennial of Philadelphia.

We've got a scheduled proposal that Nelson Rockefeller should come up on Wednesday, tomorrow, and go out to the press and announce all favorable backing that you've got from the Republican governors in our conference.

Now, in order to get it going, I don't know.

He's going to go out and say, by golly, I've just come from the governor's conference in White Sulphur Springs, and gee, that business is great.

He's been a real great support down there.

He's adopted these resolutions.

And beside that, here's a poll showing this heavy background for the president.

I've been talking to the president just now, and he tells me that the mail that's been pouring into the White House has been overwhelmingly in support.

And you use him as a mouthpiece to get out some of this stuff that we haven't been able to get out any other way.

Now, that would involve about a five-minute drop-by with you.

Of course.

Okay.

I don't know.

Five minutes, I guess.

Well, I don't think you really do.

On the other term, I will talk to him.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I started to tell you about Rizzo and Philadelphia.

I didn't make the call.

I'm sorry.

I made no comment.

Oh, yes.

He's just going to be very sad about this situation.

The Bicentennial Commission strongly recommended against Philadelphia.

And the reason is purely one of feasibility in dollars.

It just literally can't be done.

And I think what we're going to have to do is, we'll have to meet with .

Cannot be done.

because we're forced by immediate decisions of all different plans, appropriations and highway problems, just a myriad of things that force this thing to an immediate decision.

Well, what we're going to just have to do, I think, is say to them, look, in this business, we're going to be able to help you a lot of ways.

This is one way we can help you.

And it's beyond us to do.

We just don't have any discretion.

The Bicentennial Commissions made the strong recommendation if we overrode them, the state of Pennsylvania, for instance, would have to apply all of its discretionary highway money for the next four years to make this thing go.

The Congress would have to appropriate almost $2 billion to make this go.

And if we ask for this in the face of these adverse recommendations, we'd be murdered.

It would look like a payoff for Risa helping another woman.

It would have to.

And we can.

If we're doing it, we can do more.

But I just want you to know about it.

But have a meeting with them soon.

I think the best thing would be for me to go up there.

I agree.

I'll take...

Some of the supportive people.

All right.

Okay.

Tax reform.

We still haven't answered Wilbur Mills' letter.

John Connolly feels strongly that we ought to arrange time for Mills to come in and see you where you say, Wilbur, there ain't going to be any tax reform this year.

Next year, yes.

But you know as a responsible guy, and I know, that it becomes political football.

And I'm not going to answer your letter except by this meeting.

And let's be realistic about it.

I'll actually be with the whole guest on this meeting.

I'll do it.

There you are.

The other thing that's being requested is the Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee want to come in and see you about welfare reform.

I recommend you don't do that.

See, what they've gotten is screwball.

The employer was the first resort to pink out.

Richardson and Hodgson had a press conference where they criticized it.

Long has said the way they noticed the President didn't criticize it.

Erlichman didn't criticize it.

So this is probably stocking holes.

Now, we're just taking the HR1.

We're right on HR1.

And that should be our position because it's the position calculated to screw the thing up the worst.

If you had to send a finance voice down and say, fellas, I'm for HR1.

And I'm not for what you did.

You just go out and tell them, John, we'll meet with them.

OK. And you just meet with them and say, President, don't put the President on the spot.

He's written his 4-HR line.

He's got to stick to that position.

We just can't have the budget busting.

We're asking the bill here.

We can't work it.

We can't move it with the House and so forth.

And that's it.

OK.

Thank you very much.

Oh, yes, and we can have it both ways.

I'm undoubtedly going to get a question.

And if I do, I'll ride the work there all the way for all these things.

But don't hit that assistance too hard.

The only thing that I'm going to do, I think, is comment on their...

piece of stuff and say, we can't take $13 billion.

I was prepared to do that if they'd ask me about it in Texas, but nobody asked me.

I had to suggest an answer.

It's the money.

Yeah.

Then bust the budget and set off another inflationary spiral.

And the whole problem with welfare has been that the cost has been out of control.

We're just going to add a little more.

This just compounds the problem.

Now, I talked with Hope Lewis, and as I said I would, about the postal subsidy and the idea for the Life Magazine outfits.

Hope has checked it very carefully, and he's come back and said, yeah, it'll do that all right.

But he says, at the same time, you'll put a lot of your friends on this.

And he's got a list of them here.

In fact, he's got two lists.

And he says, in all conscience, I can't recommend to the president that he throw the baby out with a bathwater.

So that's all the end of that.

I think they're going to run over this anyway, John.

I don't see how this can survive in such a lousy place.

That's what he told me on the phone.

He says this may just go as matter of grabbing him.

So we'll have to go there.

And I just thought maybe we could screw somebody up.

I hope to find a job for us on unemployment.

It's your suggestion.

I talked to him about unemployment.

And they were in a hell of a fight.

Great article.

What's it called?

Five-minute jobless, unquote.

How much of a crisis?

and they go through and they break out, and they go through all these... Are you sure it's brought to their attention?

Oh, sure.

I'm sure it's brought to their attention.

All right.

A hell of a mailing.

You can get reprints and all that.

I'll read it to myself.

Come on in.

Dick Porter, can you just call me and ask me a question?

Thursday, so apparently you've been on the air with it.

Talk to Bob about it before we announce it on the channel.

Let's see if we should announce that tonight, so that we can come slow.

I would say the president is preparing for working on it today, and we'll be working on it tomorrow.

I can't schedule it, but we have it in mind.

In other words, I'll go to a building, and John will do a couple of things in the morning.

I'm happy to announce that we're going to do something in the morning.

John is having some highly technical legal problems.

I think you'd better get out there and deal with a number of those questions.

Call me back if you're ready.

We're going to do it in a very different kind of a way.

Okay, fine.

You want to get screwed with the Senate, please.

That's okay, but incidentally, you should plan that for the morning briefing, Judge.

For the morning proposal.

How do you screw the rock?

I want to screw the rock.

Or we can do both.

I don't understand the problem with both of you.

Well, why don't you get off and I'll be there.

You're rocking the ambulance.

We've got to sit right in front of you.

That's the mark of a great man.

I'll sit right in front of you.

No, no, no, no.

I can... You don't have to sit right in front of me.

No, I can sit in the afternoon.

If you want, we'd love to have you here.

It would be better, see, because everyone would be focused at 11 o'clock.

The big story will be the Hooper story.

The acting.

The acting, right?

Okay, I'll see him at 2.30.

I think if I give him a term of consideration, John,

I really want to go out and do this.

You know, it's easy to say it's an obligation.

It's easier to be handled by a non-religion.

Well, we can get simple enough, we will.

The problem is, Ron, the way I gave you the metaphor,

Well, I say we're not going to the Senate.

You heard what we talked about briefly.

We're not going to the Senate.

to serve until the election and the election with the name of the government successful.

Is there something like that?

Well, yeah.

No, I don't think so.

I can't separate Clint East from the confirmation problem right now.

I don't think so.

I think it's the presidential appointment.

It takes it out of politics.

It takes it away from Clint East.

It's a very strong point in your favor if it's made here.

All right, fine.

Okay, we'll do it.

I agree.

And I think it can arrive very well.

Now, you'll have some of those assholes say, well, they ought to send us the man.

We shouldn't have an interim director.

But I think the majority of sensible opinions will agree.

If I adopted it to the director, we'd have to submit a presentation anyway right after the election.

I'm for it.

It's your choice.

See, don't raise the backlog with the election year and then coming up as the president thought that he doesn't win re-election.

Obviously, we're not thinking of those terms.

But the other point is,

But the point is, if I made a nomination now, do you realize what a nomination now?

And it was approved in the Senate.

The day after the election.

If I should lose, then would that matter?

Then that, then I'd be Kelsey's nuts and you'd have a new man.

The point is, they had an argument.

They had an argument.

You've got to keep Mr. Cougar secretary of the Senate.

I have only two other minor questions.

One is, we've had an inquiry from the various members of the cabinet.

Do you have any feelings about whether they should be delegated to the Republican National Convention?

I think they should be sitting up there in special, for television purposes, I want the cabinet seated.

where they can be tolerated properly, and they will not get the proper attention on the floor.

The concern I had is that if there is any controversy over the vice presidency, if they're delegates, they would be very difficult for some to tolerate.

But in any event, there is.

OK.

Did Bob mention to you the fall of Annapolis this weekend?

I was driving down, driving down, making a stop somewhere.

He did, you know.

That sort of feel of the bit I find.

I just wonder if the Uber thing.

On a Saturday, he mentioned to you that.

Well, I don't understand.

He mentioned, but I just wondered if I could see what it all was.

Well, Ms. Candy, I know that how very, very much the director had his confidence in respect to you over the years.

And Mrs. Mason and I wanted to understand everything that you do.

As you know, I consider him and we all, all of our family, one of our dearest and closest friends in and out of office.

And I know how you must have felt about him.

And I just want you to know that we appreciate what you did.

Never a great man without a great son in her.

And that's you.

Goodbye.

I want to, uh, get you something to drink.

It has to be right and natural.

We'll just have to see if there's a target between here and Annapolis.

The other thing that occurred to me, I wouldn't announce anything in this area because you've got to move it to Maryland.

I forgot the whole place, so I just knocked it off.

Well, thinking about that, about youth and all that kind of stuff.

Having dinner with them.

Yeah.

It's the safe...

I think that's a worthwhile event.

I think it sends a ripple through...

that under 24, even meeting those kids.

Absolutely.

I combine it with some young civilians from the staff.

And just talk to them about the issues of the day so that they go out of there saying, Jesus, the president, you know, talked to us about the war and talked to us about the mood in the country and talked to us about the

His name is a long way to you.

You can figure that.

And all I'd have to do would be to go down Saturday night and shut it down.

Sure.

Fight for dinner.

Eight of them for dinner.

Eat dinner.

And send them on their way.

But the thing is, you then have a contact with you.

And we've nailed that down for probably three months.

I don't mind that at all.

I didn't figure that naval officers would be able to protect naval officers.

Well, it is the same as getting 80 guys from the University of Maryland with hair down their waist.

Yeah, but what you're doing by going up there is complimenting that kind of young man.

And by having some of our guys in there, you can control the situation absolutely in terms of the conversation.

Well, and it also would compliment your young staff and highlight that at a time when the White House staff question is kicking around the Congress.

Anyway.

Well, that's a good idea.

If you want to make that the event, I think that's more closely controlled by young people.

Anything we did that would eventually get out of the debate, and I might drive it out and stop it, and I might drive it to a supermarket or something.

Well, you might do that, but what you might do is drive down and stop and go to the drugstore and buy something and talk to the lady and get talking to Price's daughter.

Or something natural.

You know, you stop and next thing you know, you've forgotten your dark glasses.

You've forgotten your toothbrush.

Beats me.

I don't know.

I don't think she does.

Okay, but you've forgotten your toothbrush.

Or are you going to...

You can do that.

Say, I'm coming down here.

I'm trying to mention them and all of such and such.

I thought I'd buy an ala-cabra, buy this or that.

And just go in and talk to the storekeeper.

There's some little bird on the way.

They're a good store, preferably not Jewish operated, but you can find one.

Now there's some chains that have responded to Connolly's meeting and driven their prices way down.

If there is one, I would stop at such a store.

Safeway.

That's a good store.

It's Jewish, but it's okay.

And I'd have a Jewish... Safeway would be great.

Any chain that has done that, if you could buy the store, I'll stop.

And what I do is I drive down, and I might just, in this case, I could have another, or better, better than another doctor who's, you know, who's down to, who's a chef, and I say, come here, just take a look at this stuff.

It's all these colors, which is good food.

You know what I mean?

Sure, yeah.

That's what I mean.

It's not a white.

Yeah.

I haven't thought about the fact that if you think you can get around it, we've tried these things so often that we don't get it.

I don't mind trying again.

There's one way that you might do it, and it's risky, in a sense.

Ziegler would hate it.

Supposed you had a young

clean his paper mat.

Paul, who would sit at dinner with him, and he would come out of that as the pool, and he would get the mileage.

He never lets us do that.

I know, but every pool ends up with six people.

But let me try it.

Let's see if we'll do it.

No, they say, well, Semple would be ideal, because he's got the sensitivity.

I understand.

I like Semple, I understand.

I'll tell you what you could do.

I'll borrow a wire service.

Yep.

Warren Mears and somebody like that.

Let me find somebody.

Let me find a young guy.

I'll tell you who there is.

And this would be kind of an ironic twist in a way.

Eddie Carlson, president of United Airlines, has a son who works for one of the wire services here.

He's a theater.

He worked for Humphrey in the last campaign.

So he's no loyalist by any means.

But he's very ambitious.

It might be that he would work out and have to check him out.

But through Eddie, if I called Eddie and said, I'm going to do this for your boy,

It might pay off, I don't know.

But anyway, if the concept is interesting to you, the only way to get mileage out of it is to have somebody there who will go out and talk about it.

Now, our kids can do that.

If John Henry was somebody like that, he could go out.

Oh, sure, they can go out.

I just don't know whether having a Christ man takes me.

I didn't.

As a matter of fact, I had no damn reason why you didn't have Sigrid there.

No, I just think that Andrews was one of the young static guys who bought my hair.

Yeah.

Smart as a whip.

If you'd better work the practice, Andrews.

Well, Sigrid was young, too, though.

Yeah.

Or is that the therapy mark?

He's not exactly cute anymore.

I don't know about that.

He's thirty-four or five, something like that.

Actually, he's an old man.

but uh well i'm uh you you uh you can talk about this all right all right i i told him i said anything you fellas were talking about is fine because i like to i like to do these events and i want to do i think before we assuming we ever go to the russian summit but it's difficult to find events that are

I would say that when we get back from that goddamn summit, though, during the month of June, I'm going to get the hell out of this country.

I'm going to go around the country and do all sorts of things.

I don't mean to bug you on this either, and I know you get your mind focused on this.

In other words, what we have to look for is things that are in the normal stream, so that they don't...

I didn't have to do that for you down there.

I mean, we've got to get off the goddamn thing right back.

Yeah.

I'll walk with you.