Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 335-023 Date: Wednesday, May 3, 1972 at 3:53 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; White House operator Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/335-023 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [2:08:36] I wonder if Ted here really ever worried anything about these babes. [2:08:38] There's been a lot of people worried about them. [2:08:41] Yeah, but he was, uh, he was, uh, he was probably established, you know, he was picked up without me doing anything. [2:09:07] And he went to the state trooper who picked him up and reported to the state trooper. [2:09:12] The state trooper denied it. [2:09:14] But the only one who did, the state trooper's mother, she broke down and said, yes, it's true, but it wasn't recent. [2:09:22] Of course, if it is recent, then it's published in the book. [2:09:28] And he's got public evidence to be worried about. [2:09:34] I don't know. [2:09:39] I don't know. [2:09:43] I don't know. [2:10:12] The last time I saw him in person, he looked like he was drinking. [2:10:17] He was a puppy. [2:10:20] He's got that same disease, jackknife disease. [2:10:24] Jackknife disease. [2:10:25] He's got a carousel on him. [2:10:28] That's what it is. [2:10:29] It's the same. [2:10:30] We'll never get him. [2:10:31] He's right now in a jacket. [2:10:32] Sometimes he looks terrible. [2:10:33] He looks horrible. [2:10:34] It's unfortunate. [2:10:35] It's a good thing. [2:10:37] It's a good thing. [2:11:06] bad turn we're going to have to do that because uh i screwed up the negotiations by attacking [2:11:47] Bob talked me into the demonstration they planned for tomorrow. [2:11:51] It's not developing much, but it's easier to say that we'll give everything. [2:11:58] We're going to be together. [2:11:59] And if we see blood, we might have them together. [2:12:06] We have some people going up together. [2:12:09] They're going to be together. [2:12:10] Why not take, well, there will be one there, except [2:12:15] or we put it up. [2:12:17] It's being taken up by the councilor and that peace group. [2:12:23] Well, they are. [2:12:23] They're demonstrating up there. [2:12:24] So get the goddamn plan. [2:12:25] Now, that's what I'm saying. [2:12:26] So I'm going to tell you. [2:12:28] We spent a little money on the reports of people for this one. [2:12:35] So let's do it. [2:12:37] I don't know what kind of people. [2:12:40] I don't know. [2:12:41] I don't know. [2:12:42] I don't know. [2:12:43] I don't know. [2:12:43] I don't know. [2:12:51] I don't want to do it here because we welcome this public attention to give it to you. [2:12:59] If we did, then as of an hour ago, we didn't even assemble the people we were supposed to start assembling. [2:13:06] They're not quite there. [2:13:07] And around the country, the bullets are very, very powerful. [2:13:13] I said to you earlier, I... [2:13:21] It's closer to an idol in the United States and all that, but you didn't get the subtle effect in the country. [2:13:26] Subtle, absolutely. [2:13:27] You know, we screened this president very, very hard to find events that we could dramatize the decline in crime rate in the district and have a little policing, and it just doesn't mean it's very good. [2:13:42] But you're a association of movement, and it stands. [2:13:47] It's helped me a lot in front of students. [2:13:50] Just one week that we meet, and I talk to them. [2:13:52] And I take part in a meeting with you, which is not much right now, but it's all about now. [2:13:58] But I think three, when you say that I made a man, and I want to walk that man, I think that got him across. [2:14:05] Hopefully not all three of them. [2:14:22] Because the FBI had a second in people's minds, by the imagery from that. [2:14:26] That was extreme the world. [2:14:28] They did it. [2:14:29] It appeared, as I was watching the television, they did it without looking down once and that was my family house. [2:14:37] I never did this, for that kind of thing. [2:14:39] Right. [2:14:39] To be able to do that. [2:14:40] They had to live this beautiful life. [2:14:43] So I thought that was very good. [2:14:46] I had a closet that was 70 years old, to do that course. [2:15:06] Oh, I remember how it was that I made it. [2:15:07] I was sitting there the whole time. [2:15:09] And we made that point of attrition. [2:15:14] The one thing we regretted was something terrible was going to happen. [2:15:19] You didn't. [2:15:20] No, I don't. [2:15:20] Your identification was really the best and the perfect one. [2:15:25] The question always got me into cryptic depth. [2:15:27] Some of the stitches would come out and put the jack in or something. [2:15:30] Jack in. [2:15:35] A decent man who built an agency, and in all these years there wasn't a single case of agent corruption. [2:15:43] A crazy mover. [2:15:45] Now you see Kennedy crazy too. [2:15:48] Kennedy? [2:15:48] Kennedy. [2:15:49] All of that shit. [2:15:51] Musky. [2:15:51] And yet, I mean, hypocrisy, it makes you ill, because they've been raving about it being a fascist. [2:15:56] I don't know why they didn't say anything to the government. [2:15:59] No. [2:16:00] No. [2:16:00] The government made no statement. [2:16:05] Well, we've had our differences, different than some of the things that he did. [2:16:09] So, he was an honest, dedicated, alert, and great contribution to that business. [2:16:18] A lot of people look at it. [2:16:19] I'm still looking at it, but I'm coming down to this point. [2:16:22] It's not that important. [2:16:23] I mean, I'm going to have to read it and finish it. [2:16:26] But I think the point is this. [2:17:06] that phone came through very well. [2:17:10] And they must be feeling it because it's the only person in the room. [2:17:17] The man is always going to realize the reaction that he's going to throw at the person. [2:17:26] Is it against the type of reaction? [2:17:28] What is the situation? [2:17:29] I'm curious. [2:17:30] I don't know. [2:17:31] Are people really... [2:17:31] I think they're moved by it, Mr. Woodman, because all [2:17:39] I didn't have it on. [2:17:40] Yes, and they were proud of it. [2:17:42] Most people are proud of it. [2:17:44] Most people think they're a lot better than they are. [2:17:50] Yeah, I'll tell that. [2:17:52] But that's free decor. [2:17:53] People are proud of it, and I think the average American is proud of it. [2:17:58] They don't consider it repressive. [2:18:02] Why are you tapping on any solution? [2:18:06] crime, that what you're doing, absolutely, they want criminals shot in the mouth. [2:18:12] It has, it has an effect, of course. [2:18:16] Editorials are going to, according to all the things that they were writing about, [2:18:35] Oh [2:19:07] something that continues to report a very, very violent issue. [2:19:14] Propaganda has increased among the Indian members of the Democrats. [2:19:19] The Senate has got a new reaction. [2:19:25] It's really not necessary. [2:19:44] Yeah, it's what people were thinking. [2:19:48] So I didn't want to do this. [2:20:21] If they think the bombing is going to go before the bombings, if they think that this will lead to negotiations, whatever the... See, it may not. [2:20:30] The thing is, the bombing may not bring negotiations. [2:20:54] Okay. [2:20:57] Let's see. [2:20:58] Oh, they, they know very well from what they want to see. [2:21:37] It's hard to think that they can iraq away. [2:21:39] So don't be the least afraid of your stuff. [2:21:44] The stock market, one of the 10 points, and follow the lightning on it. [2:21:49] It's the war. [2:21:50] One of the 10 points by the end of the day, I remember, you know, it'd be the least of stuff. [2:21:58] And they call us. [2:21:59] They call us in the morning every day. [2:22:08] the dam, then go down to 900. [2:22:10] It'll come up. [2:22:12] It's going to go up again. [2:22:15] It closed down once. [2:22:16] It closed once again. [2:22:22] Where is it now? [2:22:22] But you know, every other economic indicator [2:22:41] It's actually the biggest one in history. [2:22:43] I have some thanks for getting ready to have a year. [2:22:46] I mean, I'm one of those people who's at least a bit involved. [2:22:51] I mean, I'm involved. [2:23:07] And the media closed down. [2:23:35] They may lose. [2:23:37] I mean, the media may lose on this. [2:23:42] But we still have a lot of people who can do it. [2:23:55] Thank you. [2:23:57] Thank you. [2:23:59] Thank you. [2:24:00] Thank you. [2:24:22] I know what some of you think. [2:24:26] Some people say people will applaud him. [2:24:29] He's got a very good view of the country. [2:24:34] I suppose Harris will be a better barometer here in one second. [2:24:39] He'll give you more of the peace. [2:24:40] He's more so as well. [2:24:42] He also understands the yearning for peace. [2:24:59] The point of this email is that you're more skilled at handling [2:25:31] And you know what you have to be told. [2:25:35] And you are doing everything to get peace, but not in any way. [2:25:40] I think that's going to be great. [2:25:42] I don't get people's expectations as great, but I'm trying to get everybody to know the expectations and be honest. [2:26:08] I'm sure that would be very necessary. [2:26:52] Yeah. [2:26:52] Yeah. [2:27:19] Increasingly.