On May 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:10 pm to 3:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 335-033 of the White House Tapes.
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I think the decision is probably right.
Not so much because.
The other thing that occurred to me though, Alan, is this.
Is there a split command?
In other words, the same kind of charge that Miami is able to charge or something.
That's right.
So I think I have a solution for this situation.
I think we, I just feel it's so funny that it may be quite funny.
I'm sure you know how much he's on the line.
There's no question from a personal standpoint that I told him to forget this part.
He worries much about it.
From a personal standpoint, I told him the wrong day.
He's a very serious and temperamental person here.
In my view, he's greatly desperate and a jeopardizing son of a bitch.
He's a very serious and jeopardizing son of a bitch.
I don't understand that.
But we're doing them thoroughly because what's more important than that is we're not losing the war.
By that, I mean that the United States is not losing the war.
We're still in the grave at the cost of the time keeping it on and on and on and on and on.
With all that on the line, we can't all crack a round without having us in command.
I would like to put the charge
Why can't we have a Supreme Allied Commander for the Southeast Asian area?
What I'm getting at is, what I'm getting at is this.
I can't, if I had a little admiral, I'd take him.
You know what I mean?
He actually is an admiral.
He's not there.
He's still there.
He'll be there until July.
He's still there.
In fact, he's already got a plan ready to... We've got a fake plan that started today with these... Well, now look.
How about having him be a little admiral over there?
How about giving him the goddamn commands?
Me directly admiral.
And he tells everyone what to do or can't do.
I just want to know.
I have more confidence in the Admiral than I have in Abrams, basically.
I think the Admiral, actually, you know, he's got a son in the field, doesn't he?
That's right.
And he is a hard-line little son of a bitch.
Now, I know he'll make the mining work.
But, for example, with regard to the allocation of bombers and everything else, I want him to do it better than Abrams.
I have no confidence in Abrams.
But, in fact, Larry is too close to him.
I know you respect him as a great soldier.
I do, too.
No, but I think he's on his course.
That's all.
That's true.
But also, it's fundamentally true, isn't it?
And we've got confirmation back.
Oh, that's great.
Larry, then.
Larry, yes.
Let me ask you something.
Given the contrary instruction...
Well, how do we get direct communications to them?
Through Bunker's back channel, through Bunker.
We had done that before yesterday's meeting.
We told Bunker to meet with Avery and tell him his suggestions.
Astonishing news after my trip back there.
Recognizing we're dealing with a quantum report as important as that war.
That isn't enough.
I want a message to go directly to Avery.
It's not me.
It's science.
It's science.
critical, next critical three months, you are going to report it directly to me, and the pay court will be directly to me.
In most cases, what I consider the vital to the success of our operation on this 7th of October.
Do you understand what I mean?
Yes, sir.
And I will take responsibility for the Secretary of Defense when I think it's appropriate to do so.
But I want you to report directly to me, tomorrow, to me, on matters.
I don't want to run everything to you.
But there are times when I want you to report it directly.
times that I would expect him to report directly to me, the communication is to be correct through back channel, not through, not through letter, and not through the chairman of chiefs.
I will, in my judgment, determine whether it is necessary to inform the secretary of defense.
Do you think he can be trusted with that kind of a message?
Yes, sir.
Send it to him from me.
We're going to get this straight.
You would say, everything is on the line.
You'd say, everything is on the line.
There must be no slip-ups.
Then when I get messages from him,
What about sending that little general officer?
No, we have two options.
One is to pull him out and replace him.
Do you agree with Captain?
I think it would be more of a higher risk case.
Okay.
Because on my part, I know that the poor bastard's been ripped off.
Okay, we'll do it now.
Go ahead.
If you put anybody over his shoulder, the man would be, especially if you take the guy in, coming on, he was totally on the line.
It wouldn't be an incident.
But if Al winning or losing this war, it depends upon hurting his feelings.
I don't know where that is coming from.
What about him?
Should we pull him out?
become that command.
The only fear of that point of man is not him at all.
It's the fear of the demonstration that we think that things fail.
And if the organization fails, and if the army derives the same kind of psychological picture from it, I feel far less likely to do it after you've done what you've done.
You can do this first, or I can do it now.
I meant, though, that after I've executed this plan, taken this bold move, I just feel then that I've...
The sooner he's out of there, the better.
The sooner he's out of there, the better.
I've been in that headquarters enough times now to know that he is a strong personality.
He dominates that command.
He's not just a commander.
He's a leader.
Charismatic, a leader.
And if he's pulled out of the meeting, we're going to have a kind of convulsion.
I wonder how strong this guy could tell.
All right, now, my point is, after we ordered the blockade, do you think we could do it?
And that would be far more manageable.
How would it be more manageable?
Well, be more manageable.
But only if we get a very strong man to replace him.
Well, can that little guy do it?
I don't know whether he's all that impressed.
He may adapt to a division commander with a division commander.
Yes, I'm sorry.
He doesn't work well with our movement.
We don't have any troops to fight in our own.
He's a great tactician and a great, uh, big man.
We need a man that can work the queue over and work the end of the line.
And I don't know if any of that is happening.
He's a very intelligent, thoughtful man.
He's totally concerned about his work.
He's known to worry some time and talk to him all through this.
Is he with us, totally, ideologically?
What's his present rank?
He's already got one.
Well, couldn't we bring Abrams back in his position for switching?
No, couldn't we do that?
Because Abrams is head of his job.
So, we have to absorb Abrams, and the only way she can absorb him is in that chief's office.
As a chief of staff.
How about bringing back your device?
Having in mind the fact that it's the overall thing now.
You understand?
Not just the area commander.
It's the overall department.
You got my client?
Yes, sir.
I'm going to bring him right back here.
He's right here in the president's office.
And then, naturally, we'll...
He'll be back in Vietnam.
Because we had to have one theater.
You see, you see, I'm getting back to my Supreme Commander now.
Now, think this through.
Since it is basically our inductive, you can't think in terms of, well, one theater against another.
You know, I, in our opinion, said he was goddamn good at playing those various theater problems against each other.
Yeah, he made a few mistakes, too.
But at the present time, I just can't do it this other way.
You know what I'm saying?
The assets have all got to be used for one purpose, right?
Correct.
How would it be to bring Abrams back?
What could we call it?
Southeast Asia.
So the decisions we made then, we worked all the way through.
Then we had about 100 layers.
So we've got to get them out of some options there.
So we've got to get them out of there.
The other alternative is to just fall down.
We got an ambassadorship over to get the passengers staying.
All right.
Can you say that his wife is sick or something about his wife?
No, we don't need that.
Why don't we just pull him out?
Do you think Palmer is the best man to succeed?
Yes, I've got a little bit of a list of all the possibilities, but I assume he's the most in tune to what has to be done.
We've worked closely with a little Adler.
A little Adler.
But you do have confidence in him?
You don't.
I don't have much confidence in him.
It's hard, but he's great.
I see.
Then we've got to decide this from here now.
You see, my point is, who the hell is the commander then?
Who else is going to run this damn thing?
This coordinated with the bow, for example, when you determine, are you going to use your air power in a way, or are you going to use it to take out the dam in North Vietnam?
God damn it, that should not be done in a half-assed way, where two commanders send in different things.
You see my point?
Yes, I do.
And the real difficulty is a guy sitting in Hawaii, truculent.
It's difficult for him.
It's difficult because... Can't we send a Supreme Commander out there?
That's my question.
Why haven't we?
Why not send Palmer out?
Is he rank average?
No.
No, in effect, in effect, the way this thing is evolved, you know,
I don't want to stop this business of the two theaters competing with each other.
And I don't want it to be from Hawaii.
Do you agree?
Could Palmer do that, John?
With the Navy so deeply involved, we should upgrade the Navy man, whoever he is, who's on the apron staff, who is he?
How could a man with a rear ammo, he's being changed.
I want to look into that replacement.
I want to see that.
I want the balls out, son of a bitch, there is.
The air force reported quite well.
Do you think it's been picking up a little?
Yes, sir.
You're not kidding, are you?
No, no.
They knocked down 16 tanks this morning.
A little attack up in the north corner.
They've got them ready to be used.
They were reported yesterday, 40 or 50 of them, moving towards Wake.
When they attacked this morning, they attacked them about 20, and they knocked down almost all of them.
And they put massive D-52s here.
They carried out that order yesterday?
Yes, sir.
and they haven't come forward yet.
Yeah, they know nothing yet, I understand that.
But they, but they massed them in the Ishal Valley in the same concept that you described as they came in closer.
They just didn't bring that, that curtain.
I think that that's, it's paying off.
But we're in a quiet period.
It would be deceptive.
Oh, it's a lull aboard the star.
You mean they're getting ready to jump off of that?
Well, they don't have the assets down there.
No, but they're getting there.
In fact, they're getting there very hard because they're trying to break that tough nut.
Not the regular one, but the sound of that nut.
And they put what we could do to go into the way area, went in there, and just put there.
Yes, sir.
And he did.
And he did.
You have to be prepared way better.
Very much so.
And I think most people who die, I don't think that'll be a terrible thing to set back.
Way, way, way has become a great psychological reaction.
You can't use it.
You can't use it.
Trust it.
Pick it up.
And it's the right way to do it.
He was up there yesterday.
He did well, he said.
He did well, and the order's been established.
The little general's... Is that little jackal shooting him up?
Yeah.
He's in charge.
That's your jackal, who?
Well, who was working for us.
This is Herman from the forecourt.
Okay.
How about the little operation of getting 2 to 3,000 to end up with a landing?
I agree.
I just have a feeling that that's not going to seem important.
It could, but it doesn't draw.
First, it's the idea, but it couldn't draw.
It would scare them off a little.
I agree.
Now, what they're doing now, sir, is...
I'd say, too,
I don't know.
You know, they don't even have to be that good.
God damn it.
There's a helicopter.
Drop them on the beach, give them enough fire that you can shoot up a place and hop back out of the train.
Just knock that couple down.
That's right.
Why not blow up a helicopter?
Well, this is what.
Landing boats are, from my recollection, are rather difficult, aren't they?
Our marines practice all the time over there, and we're often good at it, although that tricks us up a little bit.
We need to watch more of those boats, and we're driving around in them since then, because we're running our M50s Marine Force, the 3000, north through just north of Don Juan, and that's going to be a thing.
And we said, we'll make a run up there, we're going to prep the beach for artillery and air.
run around a little bit, and that'll draw a few birds.
And you may keep them nervous in the meantime, and they'll disappear, and they'll think, well, there's another one of us pulling out the ridge, and then we'll fall into the river.
And I think that's going to keep them nervous between now and the turn, and we can do the rest.
But they need, on the place we can get a battalion, or two battalions, or something tough enough,
Raven, the announcement of the blockade will not have a dramatic effect on South Carolina.
Well, it could be almost crucial.
But not the blockade so much as the market.
When I think about it, I mean blockade, mining, and bombing.
Oh, everything.
Everything.
You understand that.
We have made a decision to build the road.
And when I make a decision like that, we don't shit around.
We're going to mine and blockade everything else.
So I just can't conceive of that doing anything like that.
I want to get some figures.
So they put it this way.
Over the last year, I'm speaking now of the blockade, over the last year, it is estimated that flying heavy tanks, flying heavy guns, 14 big rounds of ammunition came in through the counterparty bombs.
See what I mean?
This is the sense I'm going to work on this future.
Now, the other thing is, I have an estimate of how many civilians have been killed already at their attack.
So, would you say it's around 50,000?
No, I don't think that's a lot.
I'd say 10,000.
Okay, that's very conservative.
Not too conservative.
So, you're claiming a crime.
You're saying you may have lost a woman.
That's the estimate.
One every, what's the rate?
See, they haven't hit too many proctored centers, so...
I'd say 10,000 would be the best.
Why don't we just say there's some dead people coming down?
Make a knot on the high side.
Like, they don't get killed.
Well, they will.
That's just why there's the word cachings.
The word cachings is kind of just killing them.
What part of that is it?
It's just air.
There's no debate.
Well, they're basically a counter-development of the law.
And of course, they're all supposed to be in the sun, because before we have a whole competition, let's start a bomb.
And there has to be some warning in the sense of getting in here.
It's got to remind her that it's over the message, and she needs to bring it down.
She needs to be in there.
The only thing we can possibly consider is if they actually get off the ceasefire for a month, then we can consider them to pursue the break-in.
But, you know what I mean?
Then we can go on through the goddamn summer and then come back and blockade them.
And you might be, that's the best of both possible worlds.
You know, you get a sea spider, do the sun, then come back and blockade, and you really got a name.
I don't know if it's going to take a good breath, but I think it's something that, after your speech, I think it will matter.
I think that it's a reaction.
It's very foolish of them to do it, but I don't think they've got any choice now.
Do you think they might react by trying to put some pressure on you?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
They might.
I don't know.
They think they're going to win.
They think they're going to win.
They can't be sure.
They can't be sure.
They can't be sure.
Oh, they are taking away.
There isn't any question about it.
You're convinced of them?
Yes, sir.
Very convinced.
I think it's the greatest error that we've ever possibly made.
Yeah, that's...
I don't want to be hurting you because they're conventionally configured.
They're good masks in the way that they have been.
Kids don't like anything irrelevant.
A lot of them do.
That's right.
I'm trying to get sort of out of it.
Yes, let me tell you.
That's fine, but you've got to get out of here.
I've made the decision.
I don't give a damn.
I don't want to hear the argument.
It's about whether it's worth doing now.
Oh, I understand.
I know it's risky.
I know it may.
But let me put it this way.
I know bombing won't do it.
I know that.
I, uh...
I'm not sure of this one yet, but I think this has a chance.
Just as simple as that.
I had one point, sir, I don't know what it is.
But I think we should consider it.
Three guys today over the fence.
We talked about it.
They may have to land.
I wish they had.
So they may have to land if we have any staff.
American Administrative Personnel.
Get them out.
Of course, every day is raining for a week now in this room.
And various forces have floated there.
So they're on the line after we do this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Extracting, protecting American lives, not to get involved, to get involved, and more than that.
Psychologically.
Put it down.
I love it.
Providedly ordered, Mr. Ryan, I would say I am not ordered.
I have said that there will be no Marine ground forces involved in this.
There will not be.
On the other hand, it is my responsibility to protect the Americans who are still there.
And it is my now determined and formal protection to be required.
Since most of them are non-combat personnel, it is required that I order the Marine to leave Okinawa, to Vietnam, for the purpose of protecting them and ensuring their safety.
That's just, you know, what we have to, what I have to look at is to ask the order to check and live and whether it can be figured, figured in such a way, maybe not the whole division, maybe the right, but just enough to make those bastards think we've just made more than enough money on that bomb or that, uh, damn disconcerting of a country to destroy itself and trade it for us.
We've been held a lot, if we put a rate in first,
This is going to be sure that we have it.
It's about the end.
That's about the end of the line.
Put it in.
I'm concerned.
That's the blockade it's going to be.
We have to wait three days before we bomb.
Or you can hit the railroad right away.
We can do the other bomb.
And I don't know, but that's great.
I just like to put them off in the end of the week, and I like to put the docks on them.
That's the one part that's really, the mouthwatering on a general purpose.
You get a lot of supplies in the dock, too.
Supplies are sitting there with warehouses all around them.
When I think I'm getting the hell out of there, when they announce the blockade, when I think they're only going to close for four years, it's going to make me crank it up.
It's going to make me crank it up.
People are starting to speculate what's coming.
I know you.
I know you're thinking about something tonight.
And if you don't think that's it, I don't think that's it.
These things go on.
Could you hit that something?
I don't know.
Everybody's aware of this.
I want this done.
If you could do it.
Chairman early.
Oh, he's...
I've always thought he was, but I just can't tell.
I don't know anymore.
I don't know what these guys believe anymore.
Larry's got them all corrupted.
No, he's not.
Well, he has to be, God damn it.
I know the relationship.
But the chairman got my point that he's working for me and not the Secretary of Defense now.
I made that point from now on.
Your credit's before you now.
Does he get that?
Do you remind him that day, every day, on the hour?
Do you do it?
I want him to know.
Don't you think he has to know that?
He absolutely has to know it.
Quite frankly, for a while, I think he did.
But the problem is, it's layering in everybody until it's passed.
Well, I want you to take a seat.
I'm going to show you the house over there.
I'm going to show you the house over there.
I'm going to show you the house over there.
I'm going to show you the house over there.
right?
So you have to do what's necessary to win, right?
And this is everything.
Well, I believe, for the better or worse, that two-winged response will be more troublesome for the country, the body volunteer, than a very strong
Well, I'm going to put it in terms of the purpose of this action and tell the Lord this.
This war has gone on for too many years.
The United States, it has been from the day I entered the office, I have been trying to end it and to carry out that pledge.
I have withdrawn a half a million American portions.
We have reduced our cash.
I have been restrained.
I have made the motion.
It offers every peace officer that is conceivable, that offers conceivably the opportunity to turn down the enemies.
And it is now the enemy that continues the war, not the United States, not South Korea now.
And the war must be ended.
It is time to bring the war to an end.
And I have decided I would prefer to bring it to an end with the negotiating table.
And that channel is still open.
But since the enemy refuses to negotiate, since they continue to step up the war, we now have to find another way to end it.
And that way to end it, my opinion, is to deny the enemy the lethal weapons which they are using to kill South Vietnamese soldiers, South Vietnamese civilians, and Americans themselves.
In other words, it's a way to end the war.
put it on the base of that and then we'll see if we're with that in the city, Jack.
Prisoner down.
Well, I think the POW, the next time you or Henry meet with the POW wives, if you have any dissonance, I'd be damned surprised.
Because we have offered to them, you can tell the wives that we've offered withdrawal to the POW this time.
They turned it down.
Heavenly.
Yes, we did.
All right.
And so when you say that the wives this time, now the president's sick of this,
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
away from this frustration.
They will after this.
They will after this.
None of them can suggest anything stronger than this except nuclear weapons.
No, that's right.
I think you're going to get a good value of support.
I mean, you're basing what you said about the right election conversation with the Congressmen.
Oh, that is frustrating.
I just didn't know how much we were doing.
And, of course, they decided that all of us were going to have to battle to get where we were going.
It's impossible.
What is out there?
Don't you, do you feel, or do you feel, the South Vietnamese now should be able to give the enemy a hell of a good scrap of wood?
I feel more confident that way now than I did three weeks ago.
The enemy, we didn't know where the enemy was going to get us.
Point 3 was a polyglot defense, a very odd one, and I don't think any of us thought we pulled it, but it was really testing.
It fell out a lot more quickly than it should have.
But now they've got two Marines in the Marine Division and the 1st Brigade.
That's them freed up the Marines, and they're in that training.
Do we have tanks that are in guns?
Do we have good artillery?
Forty pieces of artillery, three cavalry squadrons, 100 cavalry squadrons.
Do we have anything that can take out the enemy's big tanks if they come flying in there?
Is that clear?
Yes, sir, but they're not in good shape, you see.
Is there anything you can get at that?
I suppose you're close.
There's nothing you can get at that would not go to Big Tank, so... No, I don't have anything there.
Of course, I'm not sure I am in a Big Tank, but this attack this morning was 576.
Well, there's more than that.
There's more than that.
There's more than that.
Well, I'm going to get 10 Big Tanks, huh?
They weren't a match for the Russian tanks.
Oh, they were.
Did they do any good while they were fighting from over there?
That's the 20th tank attack.
And the first two weeks was the most effective weapon they had.
They had knocked out some of their tanks.
They had knocked out about 50-something tanks.
They lost three, oh, at least 300 tanks.
So they paid a hell of a price to do that.
Okay.
There's a lot of tanks in today.
We've got 10 in there.
We, uh...
Yes, sir?
We probably could get the tank in.
Only in the one, the, uh, the big, uh, C-5A aircraft.
There might be one tank.
One?
Those are running back and forth from Japan.
We've got tanks on the way out from Madison, Alabama.
They'll be there in two weeks.
We've got 30 of the big tanks in Japan.
You're lying.
How many C-5As do we have?
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30.
I think they're getting a hell of a lot of work.
I don't do it to fire these guys.
That's another hurt.
I got out the last of the night, and I thought I needed to get that friend of mine away with the telephone.
Where could she have been with the gentleman?
I haven't accepted one man or crew that I really expected his whole staff to see.
He could tell a picture or two of Bison and Spencey and they used to all have these little guys always in handholds and they'd cry to him sometimes.
And my pride and pride were really kicking and saying, oh yeah, we can't.
How can you see it?
Well, it's electronic here.
That's the way they've been knocking off these trucks and the trail, and moving those gunships down.
The difficult part is they couldn't use them up and on board because of the sands.
But now, the owner of the boat just ran away.
That's right.
There are no sand turrets.
There's no way to get the barge off there.
We're going to be able to battle on the ground and get them out there.
Attention.
How about doing this?
All right, put it down.
Check it out.
All right.
I think people would support sending him into Hanoi to find our POWs.
Go ahead.
Why not?
We don't know where the POWs are.
That's one thing that always, of course, petrifies me, is that one of the P-50s is in a POW can.
No, that's right.
But how about sending them, how about sending them to the Marine Division?
After we had put on the blockade, planning to push and getting our POWs.
Do you not use that as a subterfuge to anything?
I really mean it.
Why wait?
Why just blockade and wait for the sun to set?
Go get it.
Yeah.
It'll help to put out a meteor that gets the head on it.
Planted it.
land the range, and all of it.
Get the field ready.
I mean, immediately after you do the docking, see what I mean?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I bet that someday there would be more of it.
They were, I don't know.
I mean, these towns, the fight they're looking for, they're holding in.
It's all in its way.
I don't know if it gets to this point, but it's after this announcement, after the bomb, I'm going to say, let's get on with it.
It's there in the building.
I mean, it's there.
You might want to say that at home.
You might want to say, if all that you're doing is assembling horses, make sure our horses are in the saddle.
Say, let's say, if I kick the thing out, if you're healed up, I don't think you can do it.
I don't want to do it, sure.
I just don't want to do it.
I'm just protecting my horses.
I just think you're going to treat me the idea that we're going to do it anyway.
We should put out a story, you know, we're going to hang on there.
I know there's a lot of stuff that could be put out in my films that's just annoying, in fact.
We've got to be brought into this in a very, very, I think we need the most heavy propaganda in this country.
You know, it's almost as if we go by the reed and it parrots everywhere.
This river and all the reeds all coming out of it.
They're not boring.
I wouldn't give us an answer.
No, you couldn't get an answer yet.
No.
And if they do, we go.
Do you agree?
That's the workplace thing.
Oh, my, we set this tournament very huge.
Don't you agree?
They don't want to pay the wine.
No, they don't want to pay the wine.
They just don't care about getting cheap wine.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
That's leverage.
That's leverage.
You know he's going to murder you.
You burnish him a weapon.
You're equally guilty.
You know that?
It's the law.
You take the jacket off.
So I got into the all-position.
I wanted to play a cool line.
Is that a kick to your back?
that part of the plan
A little animal, at least on top of mine.
Of course, he's got a seven-feet man right before him.
He's a sensitive, easy-going boy.
He's got a shirt that's really long.
He runs that place.
He's got a lot of good credit.
He's not as brave.
You know, it was a shame.
I think back to the day for Radford, we had Radford running this whole thing on our own.
Couldn't, you know, he knew all of us.
He was a cool, cold-eyed fish.
He would have done it.
I get back to this command structure again.
They, in effect, let the probe handle that.
You just don't think of anybody that could be commander at all.
That's the whole point.
That's what I want to do.
I want to set up a new command for the whole area.
And I don't think it should be at St. Patrick's.
And I don't think Abrams can handle it.
And Palmer can.
What time to make this change in command?
I was right after the blockade.
All right, then I think we just have to pull a good job.
Put Palmer in charge of a new command.
A new command for the area.
Well, I don't want to do this anyway.
I've done a study.
I don't see the results of it.
I don't realize it all.
You see, Laos, Cambodia, South Vietnam, North Vietnam, it's all one war.
And it's all one era.
Yeah.
We need one commander.
And that commander should be in Saigon.
Correct.
All right.
We've just got to get that.
And Henry could do that.
If you try to work out a command structure, I'd like to be able to mount that, too.
He's not capable of doing that whole command.
He's too tied into the command situation.
Well, you consider it leaving if you set up a new command.
So you can't go downgrading, I'm sure.
Set up, just replace it.
You set up a new command, so you create a new job.
General Palmer, who you see in charge, with a good Marine, with a good Navy man, a top Navy man, a top Navy man, a top Navy man who's got to be there on the ground with a naval command.
And the top Air Force man we've got to vote, right?
And for the whole area.
And that's what we've got to have now.
That's the only way this is going to work.
Because you see, since I've made this decision, I'm just not going to have it thwarted by a half-assed command.
We're just not going to do it.
I was a Supreme Allied Commander for Southeast Asia, period.
He did return anyway.
He managed to take over New Cleveland, and we were sending Abrams to stay there and get him in there for a person so he could go kill him.
He did come back then and make an ambassador to Spain.
Did he take an ambassador to Spain?
No.
How do you know?
I don't know.
He probably took it over there.
Christ saves the world.
No, I'm surprised that he isn't back.
Let me turn it back down.
You can't turn it back down.
You're short of it.
The command thing is terribly important.
We've got, that's the answer to the command niche.
How can we get to the answer?
I mean, I'm reading today.
Palmer's a man.
Palmer goes out there.
The matter of fact is he had an army back in the day.
Sure did.
Well, why not send those little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little,
I don't think you can act strongly without acting totally.
I really don't think you can.
You don't listen to anybody.
You don't listen to anybody.