Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 336 › Conversation 336-032

Nixon & Kissinger on Vietnam War and Speechwriting

Monday, May 8, 1972 · 4:55 PM–4:57 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation336-032 on Tape 336 (tape position 01:57:46–01:59:59)StartMonday, May 8, 1972 at 4:55 PMEndMonday, May 8, 1972 at 4:57 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 336-032 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss the specific language and strategic implications of a pending speech regarding the Vietnam War. They debate the nuances of phrasing concerning the cessation of hostilities and the potential for a political settlement based on popular will in South Vietnam. The brief meeting concludes with the delivery of a speech draft to the President for final review.

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1:57:44It's recovered in Vietnam, but it's not recovered in South Vietnam.
1:57:46I don't understand the Republic of Vietnam.
1:57:50Of South Vietnam.
1:57:52Okay, are there any big groups we'll take?
1:58:05I don't think there was any.
1:58:12With regard to this... Just a second.
1:58:20What are...
1:58:39We will stop all acts of force.
1:58:46All acts of force.
1:58:48We will stop all acts of...
1:59:09One other thing I think, or I believe, if you look back, they would offer potentially a motion to take it out.
1:59:17They would allow negotiation on a political settlement that would flex the popular will.
1:59:24Nobody believed in the popular will.
1:59:30You see what I mean?
1:59:32I don't know, but why stay at home?
1:59:33The point is, and what we are saying, is that we
1:59:38Yeah, it's changing, but it's taking a lot of negotiation on the level, so...

On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 4:57 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 336-032 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 336-32

Date: May 8, 1972
Time: Between 4:55 and 4:57 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 24-13]

[End of telephone conversation]

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:55 pm.

     Delivery of speech draft

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:57 pm.
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  • 336-034 4:57 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:57 pm and 5:23 pm.
  • 336-035 4:57 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:57 pm and 5:23 pm.
  • 336-036 4:57 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:57 pm and 5:23 pm.

Conversation 336-032, May 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/336-032 (accessed October 9, 2026).