{"conversationCode":"336-058","tapeNumber":336,"conversationNumber":58,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-336-058","startDateTime":"1972-05-08T22:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-08T23:14:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"6:34 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"7:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:34 pm and 7:14 pm. 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