{"conversationCode":"336-065","tapeNumber":336,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-336-065","startDateTime":"1972-05-08T23:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T00:04:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"7:25 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"8:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:25 pm and 8:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 336-065 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 336-65\n\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:25 and 8:04 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown man.\n\n     Vietnam\n          -William P. Rogers\n                -Peace offer\n          -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer\n          -Melvin Laird\n          -Rogers","filename":["336a.mp3","336b.mp3","336c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:23:55","tapeEnd":"03:24:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"336-064","nextCode":"336-066","tapeTranscriptFile":"336a.mp3,336b.mp3,336c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":12235,"end":12240.4,"text":"No, but I'd be glad if you'd come in at the beginning."},{"start":12240.44,"end":12241.92,"text":"See, I'd better just talk."},{"start":12241.96,"end":12246.28,"text":"Well, the only difference is this and that."},{"start":12248.28,"end":12249.96,"text":"I'm going to have to tell them after I leave."},{"start":12249.98,"end":12251.98,"text":"The others will answer questions."},{"start":12254.76,"end":12260.67,"text":"I'll have to pay for them."},{"start":12262.47,"end":12262.69,"text":"See?"},{"start":12262.75,"end":12262.97,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":12265.63,"end":12267.65,"text":"God damn it, Roger's very handsome."},{"start":12268.25,"end":12270.87,"text":"Well, Roger's very important."},{"start":12271.09,"end":12274.61,"text":"Incidentally, let me ask you, more sports."},{"start":12274.65,"end":12275.71,"text":"Oh, what?"},{"start":12275.73,"end":12277.32,"text":"Well, then what is he supposed to do?"},{"start":12278.41,"end":12283.13,"text":"And I've always believed, Mr. President, that if you set it off without me, you wouldn't be able to do anything."},{"start":12283.15,"end":12284.05,"text":"So if you couldn't make it,"}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":12235,"end":12285,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with an unknown advisor regarding the coordination of upcoming announcements and the necessity of maintaining a unified front among his administration officials. The discussion touched upon the roles of Secretary of State William P. Rogers, Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, and Admiral Thomas H. Moorer in the context of ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations. Nixon emphasized the importance of Rogers' public presence while strategizing how best to manage the dissemination of policy information to the press.","topics":["Vietnam","William P. Rogers","Melvin Laird","Thomas H. Moorer","Foreign Policy","Public Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:54:31.620Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam","william-p-rogers","melvin-laird","thomas-h-moorer","foreign-policy","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"336a.mp3","bytes":118106903,"durationSec":7399.18,"bitrate":127697,"missing":false},{"file":"336b.mp3","bytes":117742978,"durationSec":7375.91,"bitrate":127705,"missing":false},{"file":"336c.mp3","bytes":51899404,"durationSec":3251.1,"bitrate":127709,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.908Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/336a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/336b.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/336c.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/336-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/336/conversation-336-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}