Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 337-009
Date: Wednesday, May 10, 1972 at 10:05 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; [Unknown person(s)]; Colson, Charles W.; Laird, Melvin R.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/337-009

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[42:56] Would you mind, uh, being sure that you were posted?
[42:58] Yeah, I'd even add you.
[43:41] But you've got to really get it to him.
[43:42] I mean, I'd give him a hucked-up hangout every morning to keep it up, whether we've got wires in the Senate, you know, the kind of stuff that Colson and his little ship of his and so forth does.
[43:48] Right.
[43:48] You've got to do that, Bob, with all members, all people that make public appearances, so that they put on, you know, you take that responsibility.
[43:52] Sure.
[43:52] Probably you're doing it, I mean, I'm just going to say.
[44:25] I knew this guy would get an impression for us if there were some of the boards, if there were any at the very top.
[44:28] And this is what I found in Buchanan and Allen.
[45:06] It's unbelievable.
[45:07] This whole country is so solidly behind the president.
[45:09] He's already got some results.
[45:10] Yeah, he's got his, you know, his thing.
[45:11] He's already got some.
[45:12] He's already got some.
[45:13] He's listening in.
[45:14] That's right.
[45:14] And he's, well, he gets a reading.
[45:15] They tally as they go.
[45:16] I think he has a pretty good reading.
[45:17] He doesn't have a statistically significant sample to go out and use, but he will in time to have a two-a-clock press conference, which is the earliest he can do it today.
[45:23] Yeah, so he's going to have a press conference with
[45:36] First of all, to get the support of Vietnam.
[45:37] Then he's going to, apparently, of course he probably has to do what he wants to do, but he's going to say the president's re-election vote is up substantially from what it was before, and he's going to replay that line he did before, which was that yours was the highest presidential election ever.
[45:59] Well, it is in his polls.
[46:02] It is in his polls because of the kind of people that are for us.
[46:12] Well, and by the way he polls.
[46:13] It's over 50 now.
[46:26] And he's going to say that.
[46:27] But what does he say about Vietnam, this Vietnam treaty and so forth?
[46:30] He's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make, he's going to make,
[46:57] I don't, as far as we can find out,
[47:03] But this is what I'm talking about.
[47:04] Well, I'm giving them the questions, too.
[47:05] They ask the questions, and we gave them three good questions.
[47:06] You understand this is one time we're playing for the government.
[47:08] Don't ask Brady Price how it'll be done or any of the doctors and those, you know what I mean?
[47:11] This is all very, just talking about it right now, only walks.
[47:13] That's all we're doing.
[47:13] I don't mean that those guys would be loyal, but I don't mean that they don't have their gut reactions with us.
[47:30] That's good to know, that's good to know.
[47:31] Laird is hopefully, he's apparently just, I've got more reports than I think yesterday, he just did, I don't know how long ago now.
[47:36] It's that, no, in the subcategory.
[47:37] Oh yeah, I heard of it, they said he smashed him.
[47:39] Apparently he really did, and he's going to hit at this press conference today, and what we've tried to do is turn him into an emotional approach to it, of...
[48:02] He's an ideal guy to lock down because he's so proud of the position he's in.
[48:09] He feels very strongly.
[48:12] Don't I?
[48:12] I know.
[48:13] But I mean, he fell in play at first hand.
[48:18] As well as talking about you, he's talking about himself.
[48:27] This is big up 700.
[48:49] So see, what they did is they ran a private running job last night.
[48:52] Yeah.
[48:52] Well, he told me not to ask for proof, and I asked him anyway.
[48:56] And that's what it is.
[48:56] It's up to 58, 52.
[48:58] And approval on the first, the way the president's handling Vietnam is 53 of 47.
[49:02] And disapproval is down 44, down to 36.
[49:17] And you scored on Vietnam as well as on yourself.
[49:18] You got 80% awareness.
[49:18] Yeah, which is higher than most of the things we get.
[49:20] With a 50, that's a lower approval, 52% favor.
[49:21] I don't know.
[49:21] I don't know if that's out of those who are aware.
[49:23] That very high note being 25, which we've never had before.
[49:46] I wanted to set them up first.
[49:47] So I did the piece first.
[50:10] Now we're going to repeat the question.
[50:20] President Nixon, in his speech Monday evening, agreed to stop all military action in Vietnam and to withdraw all of the U.S. troops within four months as soon as all our POWs are released and an international ceasefire is established.
[50:31] That's only if China doesn't include the Phuket party.
[50:33] That's right.
[50:34] That's just the peace offer.
[50:36] Okay, then we said because of the massive communist invasion of South Vietnam and the failure of the communists to negotiate, the president has to include
[50:46] Then we said to make sure that the supplies do not reach North Vietnamese, the President has taken the following actions.
[50:49] Mind all North Vietnamese harbors.
[51:09] Having U.S. forces prevent any supplies increase from Vietnam, I see.
[51:11] Cut off all diplomatic communications from Vietnam to the extent possible.
[51:13] Antigua airstrikes against military targets from Vietnam.
[51:14] Do you support the President's action, sir, don't you?
[51:15] 7421.
[51:15] In his address to the nation, I'm leaving the present call for the support of the American people for his efforts to end the war.
[51:18] Do you support the President and his efforts to end the war, or don't you?
[51:20] 8612.
[51:35] Of course.
[51:35] It's just hard to believe that they don't put that out.
[51:37] Why do you think that's so low?
[51:38] Well, it's partial.
[52:13] I think the January Vietnam announcement, unfavorable was 73.
[52:15] This is 50-what?
[52:16] 53.
[52:16] I'm like, 53 unfavorable?
[52:17] No, unfavorable is 22.
[52:17] The unfavorable is lower than usual.
[52:18] So, you know, the dollar is the lowest unfavorable we've ever gotten.
[52:20] But it is dollars.
[52:20] It's lower unfavorable than you got on the Chinese.
[52:42] I don't think it means a lot.
[52:43] It just seems maybe the way the question is put, they just didn't quite get it.
[52:47] Well, in any event, we've got some releasable stuff.
[52:49] Now, we can get cranking on this.
[52:51] I think we should.
[52:51] Put this out the same day as some of your tools.
[52:53] Johnny, do you want to get this out?
[52:54] Is that a good buy-in?
[53:14] Well, the release of the peace offer is not a very significant one.
[53:15] Put that in with the other, do you understand?
[53:17] Is that a risk to your heart?
[53:18] It does.
[53:18] I don't know how you get through the release of that one.
[53:20] Would you just go with the 86 law?
[53:21] Or the 86 law?
[53:32] I think the one I want to put is the bombing and all the rest.
[53:38] Take that one.
[53:40] It's a goddamn good question.
[53:43] If you could do that.
[53:53] And then that would be 72-19.
[53:54] 72-19.
[53:54] And then put the piece off there and two, after that, too.
[53:55] What's, what's it called?
[53:56] 75-17.
[53:56] It's not much stronger than that.
[53:57] That's right.
[53:57] Okay.
[53:57] And that's why we put out the specific action, too, which is 74-21.
[53:59] Yeah.
[53:59] So that says specifically that you have to support your action.
[54:01] I put out the whole thing.
[54:02] I put out the whole thing.
[54:03] That should be the lead.
[54:20] 74 for three-fourths of their money.
[54:23] Now, how can we do this, Bob?
[54:25] I think that, and I know it's nobody's fault.
[54:29] I know it's the media's fault.
[54:30] I don't think that we're, that we got to this point that we've been able to get across on the support side.
[54:39] Yeah.
[54:43] I think we have.
[54:44] I think I get way overloaded, obviously, because of the big news, especially if it was the Senate Act.
[54:46] So they make a big thing out of that.
[54:47] The news of support isn't big.
[54:48] They screwed us on some of it.
[54:49] You see what Garvin stated.
[54:50] The speaker.
[54:50] You know what that held?
[54:51] It was a good statement.
[54:51] It was not used.
[54:52] It was used, but it was buried at the very bottom of the story, and it wasn't closed.
[55:14] The president this time has a few options.
[55:15] One, either for our country to capitulate to the North Vietnamese Communist Party, or two, to take the action he did from the immediate man of all range.
[55:45] Well, the pole comes out well, eh?
[55:48] Yeah, maybe it's just as well that you did the pole.
[55:53] Prove it or disapprove it.
[55:54] You see, here's a time when a pole did affect.
[56:12] I mean, when a speech did affect public opinion.
[56:13] Because it was an event.
[56:14] It wasn't just a speech.
[56:15] Well, it was an act.
[56:16] Well, it means something.
[56:16] November 3rd, however, is the only one.
[56:18] Well, it was kind of a thing.
[56:19] The thing about November 3rd was it standing up against the... That was an event, too.
[56:22] It was standing up against Democrats.
[56:23] Yeah, right.
[56:23] And in a sense, it was a non-event.
[56:24] Because you didn't do what they thought you were going to do.
[56:26] Right, right, right.
[56:41] approval of the war is up here, so that's good.
[56:44] Approval of the war is up substantially, which is good stuff.
[56:47] Get right back where you were right off your time.
[56:50] On both regular approval and on approval of the war.
[57:13] Let's go ahead and work on the release that we've done.
[57:15] It should be that three-fourths of the American people support the President's actions.
[57:20] You've got Kohl's in Miami.
[57:22] You've got it in East Harvard.
[57:23] Pick up question four.
[57:25] That's the toughest question, but that's a good answer.
[57:44] Then the second point is question three.
[57:45] The third point is question two, peace offer.
[57:46] We don't want to make the lead out of the peace offer.
[57:47] Make the lead out of the tunnel.
[57:48] Alright, that's okay.
[58:15] Well, can ORC put it out?
[58:16] No, they can't because it's my intention.
[58:17] Yeah, but how did they get the boat?
[58:18] How did they explain that they got it?
[58:19] Well, okay, work on that.
[58:20] Now, don't use question five.
[58:21] It's too low.
[58:21] It lets in when you're going down.
[58:22] Okay.
[58:22] Okay, go ahead.
[58:23] Get it worked out.
[58:23] Yeah.
[58:41] Yes, they can.
[58:41] But Scott and Griffin are having a press conference and they're going to blast on some other stuff and they'd like to launch this and he thinks they may get it on the tube faster this way.
[58:46] Or he puts it out as a release.
[58:47] How are they going to say they've got to put it out as a release?
[58:48] That's what they're working on now.
[58:49] They'll figure it out.
[58:50] Would you just talk to the person?
[58:51] No, Larry, but he can't see what's working on the release.
[58:52] Pat breaks our releases on it.
[59:07] And ORC just picks up what we write and puts it out.
[59:10] What we do is put it out, and then Scott would just say, I've come by a release that ORC is putting out today.
[59:14] So we can cover that.
[59:14] Colton, could you give me Mr. Colston, please?
[59:35] Capitol Hill Club, Newsmaker Luncheon which is covered by television.
[59:44] Yeah, yeah.
[1:00:11] Are you done?
[1:00:11] Are you here with the O.B.?
[1:00:13] Oh, come on, O.B.
[1:00:14] Fine.
[1:00:15] But now on Connelly, what would we figure out?
[1:00:18] What about getting Agnew back?
[1:00:19] Did you work on that?
[1:00:20] Well, I talked to Agnew about that.
[1:00:21] I talked to him the other day about it.
[1:00:24] And he said that he would be glad to, but he said, think about whether I could do some good.
[1:00:31] He's going into Vietnam.
[1:00:33] He goes to Thailand and then secretly into Vietnam.
[1:00:35] He said, I may be able to do even more good.
[1:00:38] in Vietnam or right out of Vietnam that I can't write on the back.
[1:00:39] All right.
[1:00:39] We'll use other big guns.
[1:00:40] All right.
[1:00:40] And also, if I can't go around Vietnam, there was a man who was still alive.
[1:00:43] I think this is a pretty good part for the president to be going with the troops.
[1:00:46] U.S. Vice President Joe on the flight to Vietnam.
[1:00:47] All right.
[1:00:48] Why don't you say hello?
[1:00:48] Okay, Mr. President.
[1:00:49] We've got one message across.
[1:00:50] Abrams is black.
[1:00:50] Every goddamn people in the room.
[1:00:51] Every last person in the room.
[1:01:08] That's great.
[1:01:08] Is it?
[1:01:09] Great.
[1:01:09] We have a, uh...
[1:01:34] I'll give you that advance on what I thought it was last time.
[1:01:35] We asked the question specifically for the government to make sure that the supplies do not reach the North Vietnamese.
[1:01:38] The President has taken the following actions.
[1:02:04] The U.S. supported the President's actions in Oregon.
[1:02:05] That's what that is.
[1:02:06] Coppice can help each other there.
[1:02:07] Seventy-four, yes.
[1:02:08] Twenty-one, no.
[1:02:09] Three-fourths.
[1:02:09] We had three-fourths of the American people in support.
[1:02:11] Then we asked the peace question.
[1:02:31] This would be 75, this would be 17, this would be, go ahead, same level.
[1:02:33] And because of the mass and communist invasion, every time we were shooting, the only way to end the war was to reach them.
[1:02:35] This would be 72.
[1:02:36] So now that shows you, you see, Henry, the thing is, what you were just talking about, you just got to get to you, some of these positive things.
[1:02:39] Then who had the right to get the oppression to the country?
[1:02:41] Oh, and here's what Senator's going to get, because here's the Senator approach.
[1:02:42] What was he asking, what else was he asking?
[1:02:59] And the destination on the evening of the President's call to support American leaders at the same award.
[1:03:03] Do you support the President at the same award at the 86-12 call?
[1:03:06] Senator Carlisle, I get the message after it, but he said it's just going after the real piece, and this is destroying the support of the President.
[1:03:34] The approval of the President, which at 54, 52, 52 on the last one, is 58, which is the same as it was for China, which is where it was right after China.
[1:03:38] And more interesting than that, approval of this group of the White President makes a change in the Vietnam situation, is at 47 to 53.
[1:03:57] And disapproval down, disapproval down to $44.37.
[1:03:59] It was $47.44 in April.
[1:03:59] Right after April 26th, after the troop withdrawal speech, it was $47.44.
[1:04:01] That was up a bid.
[1:04:02] No, that was down a little.
[1:04:02] No, that didn't.
[1:04:03] We were removed.
[1:04:03] That never helped.
[1:04:04] See, right after China, they were right back, right after China was $53.36.
[1:04:06] Then it went down to $47.44 and now back to $53.36.
[1:04:26] But that $53.36 is as high as we've ever been, ever again.
[1:04:28] Well, it's about, it's about, there's a 30, there's 35% of the people that are piece of any price.
[1:04:30] Almost.
[1:04:30] No way it's ever changed.
[1:04:31] Well, pieces of any front dollar, it's about 30% of pieces of any price or a little less, and about 5% or 8% that are, are, are any price.
[1:04:48] Oh, yeah, well, on this case, we've got those.
[1:04:50] Well, some of them.
[1:04:50] Some of your disapprovers are still, you know, sometimes will be people who still want you to, they don't want you to just go by and they want you to, you know, we're doing the real work for this person.
[1:04:56] Yeah, just don't sign it.
[1:04:56] Let's see what else.
[1:04:57] Let's see if this is the real thing.
[1:05:12] Oh, Christ.
[1:05:13] Oh, Christ.
[1:05:13] Yeah, I got some of that from Buchanan, too.
[1:05:14] They had called, and he was very upset because somebody's putting out the word that he was, of course, with the... Well, who in the hell put that out?
[1:05:17] Now, who in the hell put this out?
[1:05:18] Do you know who might have put it out?
[1:05:39] Well, or who would tell us there?
[1:05:40] Who else would put it out?
[1:05:41] No, I don't think anybody put it out.
[1:05:42] I think from the way the story went, because it said he and, uh... Rogers?
[1:05:44] No, CIA or something.
[1:05:45] I think it's, it's playing off the... No, he had, he, he said that he's, he's convinced that somebody is, uh, lying.
[1:05:48] Well, how about if I, uh, and then there was another story in the top of it, and I just didn't really do it off the top.
[1:05:51] I didn't really think he alluded to it.
[1:05:52] Maybe Tom put it out.
[1:05:53] Apparently, apparently they were making, uh,
[1:06:12] Well, that may be common sense.
[1:06:13] I think it's common.
[1:06:14] Well, anyway, don't get common, you know, because we can't afford that.
[1:06:18] Nobody doesn't have that because of land.
[1:06:20] No, but I think the thing to do is that you ought to see.
[1:06:22] Maybe you or I think there's somebody that absolutely truly unanimously supported the NSC.
[1:06:24] Don't you think we should say that?
[1:06:26] You know what?
[1:06:44] That was the bar you called off.
[1:06:46] Uh, okay.
[1:06:59] on the road to open up.
[1:06:59] That's the 52s.
[1:07:00] Well, it doesn't make sense to do that.
[1:07:01] We didn't ask him to do that, Mr. President.
[1:07:01] This is his own idea.
[1:07:02] I mean, he knows he'd like to master the tax, but we've never managed to get him to do more than 3,000 at one time.
[1:07:05] But this is on the road to Amlock.
[1:07:06] I said to McCabe, it probably won't work.
[1:07:06] I said to McCabe yesterday, it would really not be better because of Amlock's balance.
[1:07:28] Did I have to make these decisions?
[1:07:29] And so this is my initial reading, I guess.
[1:07:30] The President Texas announcement has been a tremendous boost to the morale and resolve of the United States.
[1:07:33] That's a good point.
[1:07:33] That's a good point.
[1:07:34] General Abrams is, of course, enormously encouraged.
[1:07:35] And I accepted what he said, how much he appreciated his own time.
[1:08:13] Well, let me say this.
[1:08:15] We'll get this out.
[1:08:16] But Henry, you ought to be in your context with people.
[1:08:20] Tell them about this.
[1:08:23] Oh, yeah.
[1:08:24] We've got to use it.
[1:08:25] We've got to.
[1:08:26] We've got to.
[1:08:27] We're not getting across that with the apology story, the support story.
[1:08:30] I know why not.
[1:08:31] It's because we're not trying.
[1:08:33] But it's because the media blocks it out.
[1:08:36] I saw the Los Angeles Times today.
[1:08:38] They had to be in contact with the FBI.
[1:08:41] That's the point of the act.
[1:08:45] It's on page 18.
[1:08:48] It doesn't matter if this is on page one.
[1:08:53] Maybe give us a break.
[1:08:54] I don't know what else to do.
[1:09:05] Give them hell, let's go at them.
[1:09:06] It'd be a big boost to morale.
[1:09:07] How did they hurry for the president?
[1:09:08] Give them two years for the president.
[1:09:09] We're all willing.
[1:09:10] Let's go.
[1:09:10] Did they agree to use them?
[1:09:11] Yes, sir.
[1:09:11] I don't know.
[1:09:11] I don't know why someone made a mistake.
[1:09:12] Somebody screwed up because they had a whole series of these guys.
[1:09:14] They kept it in place.
[1:09:15] What was it?
[1:09:15] What was it?
[1:09:16] What?
[1:09:16] CBS.
[1:09:16] CBS.
[1:09:16] And what if they were all positive for G.I.s?
[1:09:17] The lead-in was something about the boost in morale of the American troops to get a mandate one after another.
[1:09:35] So Andy should have done this 10 years ago.
[1:09:36] I've got the person's story.
[1:09:37] We're with him.
[1:09:37] And they've done this really perfectly.
[1:09:38] And he says, it was great.
[1:09:39] How about these POWIs?
[1:09:39] They finally got the turnaround story.
[1:09:40] They play the negative story.
[1:09:41] Are they turning the turnaround story?
[1:09:42] Yes.
[1:09:42] Yes.
[1:09:42] They had cool advice.
[1:09:42] It was really a comedian confuses the two groups.
[1:09:44] It's one that's always happy.
[1:10:05] Now there's the shot.
[1:10:06] We've got to figure out what you want to do.
[1:10:07] Guns still riding on it.
[1:10:08] That's actually how it's going to be.
[1:10:29] They requested by the board actually meeting with the president.
[1:10:30] They said they haven't been with him for a long time.
[1:10:32] I'm not so sure that now is the time to let them do it, since it was their initiative.
[1:10:33] I don't think you want to do it.
[1:10:34] Well, I will do it.
[1:10:35] I will do it only if they're coming in to tell me they're going to support it.
[1:10:36] I don't care if you haven't gotten an explanation, Tom.
[1:10:37] I don't care.
[1:10:38] If they want to come in and tell me they're going to support the action, I'll do it.
[1:10:40] Don't you think so?
[1:10:40] I think they will.
[1:10:40] Because you did Monday night exactly what they asked for Sunday night.
[1:11:01] I can't come in with the deal while Mr. President
[1:11:12] Why not just offer prison for withdrawal?
[1:11:13] Because if they do that, we're down too.
[1:11:15] All right.
[1:11:15] Bring them in.
[1:11:16] That's good.
[1:11:16] This one can go.
[1:11:17] But, Henry, let me tell you, that's just, I don't know how you realize how encouraging that poll was.
[1:11:23] In spite of the fact that I'm media, that's a hell of a lot of people.
[1:11:34] Because that was taken when?
[1:11:35] The night of the speech or the night after?
[1:11:35] It was taken, well, 12 o'clock.
[1:11:36] When?
[1:11:36] On the night after.
[1:11:37] It was taken last night.
[1:11:37] Well, that's good.
[1:11:38] And they had one day for the media to kick the shit out of them.
[1:11:39] It was taken last night.
[1:11:40] And they're continuing tonight.
[1:11:40] Now, you give Kevin the appeal of sending him.
[1:11:41] You told him you'd send him.
[1:11:42] So you're not imposing?
[1:11:42] No, no, he doesn't.
[1:11:43] So he has a bank to tell him.
[1:11:44] He has 12 hours to tell him.
[1:11:44] All of the other people, 20 hours a day, 80 hours a day.
[1:11:45] He's got just a couple more nights.
[1:12:04] And then he had some, I've been out there, I'm sure it's the last time, part of his people are out there in Washington.
[1:12:06] He has a monitoring system where he can listen to any kind of music.
[1:12:08] And doing this for 20 years, he has it all night long, he's been cutting, disclosing, performing.
[1:12:10] And he called, he called poisons on it, and he said that he's never heard as emotional a reaction as he was getting this done.
[1:12:13] But at the time, he was listening to a monitor, he didn't pick up a single note, but I don't see what he did.
[1:12:15] He did everything.
[1:12:33] He gets more of a feel of the people.
[1:12:35] He said, well, tell Henry about some of the other things you run into in your emotional life.
[1:12:37] Bradshaw, your Democratic friend.
[1:12:38] I don't know.
[1:12:39] Bradshaw was prevalent in the Midwest.
[1:12:40] The reaction was just much stronger than he was.
[1:12:41] Either Cambodia or another period in terms of people kind of rattling.
[1:13:07] are just hardhatching hardhats.
[1:13:08] They're just confusing.
[1:13:08] And that's all the way from Brennan to Franco and all these guys.
[1:13:10] Even though they can fence.
[1:13:11] They said, we're gonna get no people on this tree.
[1:13:12] If they get some sign.
[1:13:12] Or we could only get those hardhats to run and get marching on.
[1:13:14] But we've got to see what it is.
[1:13:30] What Brennan feels will be necessary for that is one goal, not afraid for Columbia students coming down to New York.
[1:13:34] The right ones.
[1:13:35] And then they'll come out.
[1:13:35] Brennan said last time, the sentiment is there, but it hasn't been since they marched before.
[1:13:38] But they've supported us, but it hasn't been.
[1:13:39] If you want to go out and show the fly, and they want to go out and show the fly, they feel very, very strong.
[1:13:58] You know, it's a tense strike to get many statements, wasn't it?
[1:14:00] Yeah.
[1:14:00] Particularly when it's something that would come to an end in a way.
[1:14:01] The best part of that was, first of all, it played very well with me.
[1:14:03] It was the first statement of reaction.
[1:14:04] It was a democratic statement.
[1:14:04] He sure used it all.
[1:14:05] He felt that of all the statements, that that was the most important one.
[1:14:06] He wanted his committee to know it.
[1:14:07] I've got a lot of foreign people coming here that want to hear this statement, too.
[1:14:09] Okay.
[1:14:09] But what that did, and it was to do it,
[1:14:32] You have the union saddled with a rekindled... Henry was telling me an interesting thing, that a commentator he heard this morning was interpreting Montgomery as not a close friend.
[1:14:50] rather than having his landslide be due to it, due in part to the governor of Nebraska, who was a Democrat, of course.
[1:14:52] Big ol' farmer, said, support the president.
[1:14:53] You get that, and that's, that is a, that's because we, well, federally behind the president.
[1:14:56] When it's not Roman law, for example, where McGovern was supposed to sweep, Humphrey took it because the governor of Nebraska went right in there and said, by the way, we've got to support the president.
[1:15:00] And that thing wasn't going as good as it seems for you, though, now.
[1:15:02] And actually, where's the big ol' farmer, you know?
[1:15:18] You know, I, to me, it was a nice and pleasant room together, and both of them made, you know, I didn't know how old they were, but I'm pretty sure they're starting to make a difference.
[1:15:23] I'm just saying, what did he do?
[1:15:24] He busted his ass.
[1:15:24] He didn't do as well as he should have done.
[1:15:26] He busted his ass.
[1:15:26] He should have done better.
[1:15:27] He was in this super organization and working that for a year.
[1:15:44] I think we greatly lost that one.
[1:15:46] Good luck.
[1:15:46] Now tell us the piece.
[1:15:47] Oh, yeah, through the bureaucracy, that's not good.
[1:15:49] Assembly, by the way, will have a press conference this evening.
[1:15:52] Exactly 75 percent.
[1:15:52] Well, take the 7421.
[1:15:53] That's the 74 red line.
[1:15:54] Oh, the action.
[1:15:55] The action without even the peace offer in it.
[1:15:57] All right.
[1:15:57] Okay.
[1:16:12] Well, there's a little clue.
[1:16:13] And if you get it, if you call it, and you order it, I still think I'd tell the brand that.
[1:16:20] If you call them on the ship.
[1:16:21] I think it shows them on the business, whatever it is that they're going to make.
[1:16:25] They may, OK.
[1:16:25] There's a way to put it.
[1:16:32] Can't you do anything about it?
[1:16:33] Why?
[1:16:33] Okay.
[1:16:33] Good luck Henry.
[1:16:33] Henry, now don't you get down on the dumpster.
[1:16:34] He read the Washington Post editorial this morning.
[1:16:36] He's been on the apartment call last night.
[1:16:36] I can see how he's standing.
[1:16:37] I know you do.
[1:16:37] Remember, we have one thing left.
[1:17:01] Oh, we've got the power.
[1:17:03] Can our Vietnam beat the United States?
[1:17:05] That's the question.
[1:17:07] I don't know.
[1:17:08] There you go.
[1:17:13] He needs a little of this only because Emory would be a lousy poker player.
[1:17:18] A lousy poker player.
[1:17:18] I can tell the minute he walks in where he has to do his best, at least to show for it, he couldn't do it.
[1:17:22] And that's why he's so amazed when I go and see him.
[1:17:24] He's been showing my address the whole night.
[1:17:26] Oh, he changed the whole word.
[1:17:28] It's great.
[1:17:28] It's great because it's what they need.
[1:17:30] It's an expression.
[1:17:42] First of all, let me say, after seeing my law school class last night, men and women,
[1:17:52] 60 or two goddamn old.
[1:17:54] And they all look like the oldies.
[1:17:56] Quite a few, quite a few of them.
[1:17:58] I just thought, you know, we can't see ourselves.
[1:18:02] I mean, I realized that I must look like a goddamn old of people.
[1:18:06] Those guys are not just shit.
[1:18:08] They are these people of old.
[1:18:10] It's a nice party, those guys.
[1:18:11] I guess, didn't you?
[1:18:12] They saw Chuck Martin, of course.
[1:18:13] They had, you know, the army chorus and the strolling strings.
[1:18:26] that I was posting to you, every single person in the table was a Democrat.
[1:18:28] If all, of course, every single person in the table was conservative, we wanted to say that.
[1:18:30] Basically, the department was conservative.
[1:18:31] And every one of those just emotional and expressive people, they knew they were coming to us, and they had to have something to say about it.
[1:18:51] Basically, if you understand, this is the 34th or 37th class, Depths of Depression.
[1:18:56] We were all towards church on Sunday afternoon.
[1:18:58] That's why I told a little story about David Capers, who was liberal as hell, and who gave us the, gave the dinner.
[1:19:04] But I think that rather touched David, because I remember some of the dinner.
[1:19:08] I was just going to say, I don't know, but I used to know him before.
[1:19:12] I must say, I understand him, but I don't know who he is, because I could see who he was, and I don't know who he was anymore.
[1:19:33] They were wonderful people, didn't you think?
[1:19:35] They had good folks, didn't you think?
[1:19:36] But you see, these are the kinds of people, and they don't, I hardly know, would all be left in that period, in that period.
[1:19:47] They went to Duke, and they're all liberal.
[1:19:50] I remember all the members of my class were liberal in Duke.
[1:19:53] If I got a, at least only for personal reasons, part of what we're doing.
[1:19:55] Well, I'd say most of them were, most of them were very, very, very strong.
[1:19:58] Maybe it's about, let's don't, let's don't, let's don't, if this pole is so good, let's don't just flood it by putting it out prematurely.
[1:20:03] If you can't get a wide seat degree to go this way, don't do it until those two got it.
[1:20:18] That's not a problem.
[1:20:19] The problem is just getting, well, whether to give them the information, let them do it.
[1:20:31] But now the thing I want to do with the poll, though, on this one, Chuck, I really want to do it.
[1:20:34] I want a personal telephone call.
[1:20:35] McGregor's people have to get off their asses and make personal calls and see that a personal telephone call is made to every congressman and senator, Democrat and Republican, one way or another.
[1:20:40] I don't know about, you know what I mean.
[1:20:41] It's every one that is knowledgeable.
[1:20:42] Correct.
[1:20:42] And also, every one that she has.
[1:20:43] The poll has got to go to the Democratic Democrats.
[1:21:01] They've got to know what they're up against here.
[1:21:03] I think all I've got to try to emphasize is it's a savage fight.
[1:21:06] It's a brutal fight that they have now.
[1:21:09] And we have got to get out some ideas of support here.
[1:21:11] We've got to break through them.
[1:21:14] We've got to break through them.
[1:21:18] Well, what can you do in that way, Tucker?
[1:21:20] You have an apparatus for that purpose, seriously.
[1:21:23] Get it out to them.
[1:21:25] Well, can I suggest this?
[1:21:25] If somebody called, it would be useful to call 25 columns and let Henry talk to them.
[1:21:30] Yeah.
[1:21:30] We've got to listen to Henry's answer on that.
[1:21:33] But you've got to lay it on the line, and we've got to hit it hard.
[1:21:36] Get this loyalty line that you get there to try to reassure them about the comments.
[1:21:41] Right, but the advantage of that is,
[1:21:57] about right now.
[1:21:58] Judge, you just say that the president was outraged.
[1:22:00] Tell him the president was outraged by that story.
[1:22:02] And he told me that the Secretary of Defense not only supported the thing, but he also has been superb in executing it.
[1:22:28] As a matter of fact, we did it.
[1:22:29] That was his job.
[1:22:29] I don't know, maybe I'm putting too much stress on what the goal is, but I think Bob, after what I've heard, how this worked in the
[1:22:59] Yeah, of course.
[1:23:00] I understand.
[1:23:00] It hurts us all, and I had to focus it, and I thought it was a problem, and I mean, just your hands are pressing.
[1:23:02] I said, the secret will go out there this morning, and it just knocked me through again.
[1:23:48] You couldn't allude to it this morning, but you said that you could see there was a little
[1:24:19] which is to make sure the supply is not reached to the person who is taking the volume action.
[1:24:21] One is the list of all the actions being supported by the President of the Bank.
[1:24:23] And all of the other goals, and all of the other projects that have been planned regularly in this store as we've been, we have made a lot of efforts to handle the situation in our crew and in other areas, because we've got a few of those things
[1:24:49] We really have people with us.
[1:24:50] Wiretown, Wiretown.
[1:24:50] Yes, we may have a lot of them.
[1:24:51] We have a lot of people with us.
[1:24:52] We have a lot of people with us.
[1:24:52] We have a lot of people with us.
[1:25:26] let's turn this around
[1:26:02] What we want Conley to do is to take on the Democratic-Critic partnership.
[1:26:04] Will he do that?
[1:26:05] He indicated this morning that he would.
[1:26:06] He wants to write four on four, and we've got him on board a vehicle tomorrow.
[1:26:08] He certainly, his feeling is perfect.
[1:26:09] He just said, as an Oregonite, I'm mad as hell.
[1:26:36] I'm calling a press conference to express my outrage at the failure of the members of my party to support the president.
[1:26:56] I was there.
[1:26:59] Great decision.
[1:27:01] Well, everybody really special.
[1:27:23] Don't mind, don't forget them.
[1:27:27] He does that all the time.
[1:27:29] He does that all the time.
[1:27:51] Where are people, uh, apparently, you know, driving a different kind of bus today?
[1:27:53] Yeah.
[1:27:53] It hasn't been said that other businesses are going to be good in the fall, right?
[1:28:27] They did a reasonably good job.
[1:28:28] Well, I didn't see why they couldn't.
[1:28:29] They had to wait until the Democratic shoe fell.
[1:28:30] And before they could slice them up, in fact, they could have sliced up the Cantonese.
[1:28:32] That's what I was thinking.
[1:28:33] Well, they've been vulnerable for 10 days.
[1:28:34] They've been sort of primed with an anti-U.S. speech.
[1:28:35] And when I was just cutting them out of the critics, the critics never said anything.
[1:28:38] This time, at least yesterday, they said it was sort of got in the way of my caucus.
[1:29:02] I think if Goldwater again would make that speech about the crater, he ought to do it.
[1:29:04] I think if he did that speech, he ought to make it again.
[1:29:29] Is that you were going to speak tonight or not?
[1:29:30] That was Les' son.
[1:29:31] Still Les' son.
[1:29:31] Couldn't make up Les' name.
[1:29:32] What did he talk about in the press?
[1:29:33] Where's the car?
[1:29:33] That didn't matter.
[1:29:34] I don't know.
[1:29:34] That was supposed to be at a road conference.
[1:29:35] They booked it.
[1:29:36] Where was it?
[1:29:36] Ohio State, for example.
[1:29:37] Well, some of these materials they had in the water.
[1:29:39] I don't know.
[1:29:39] Well, I agree with the team.
[1:29:40] They didn't want to give him the ride.
[1:30:04] How many demonstrators did you hang them?
[1:30:05] Three hundred.
[1:30:05] About that much, I don't know the number.
[1:30:06] I don't know what they did, but I don't know the number.
[1:30:07] It was just a thing.
[1:30:08] People throw rocks down there.
[1:30:09] Three hundred.
[1:30:09] They get smashed to the very ground and shot at in a sentence, I guess.
[1:30:11] Well, anyway, the very ground starts to get rocked.
[1:30:45] get hard, you know what I mean?
[1:30:46] But we do have support.
[1:30:47] I hear that if we get another riot, we'll wire ourselves to sufferers and pick another job out of them.
[1:30:51] And I'm still convinced we somehow, we think we might get wired by another riot in some western
[1:31:12] Well, don't you have over $20,000 wired?
[1:31:13] Yes, yes, sir.
[1:31:13] There are more of the system.
[1:31:14] Yeah.
[1:31:14] Right.
[1:31:14] That's good.
[1:31:15] That's good.
[1:31:15] As of this morning.
[1:31:15] What do you have, $20,000?
[1:31:16] I have a pretty good number.
[1:31:36] Your letter, and that's all, that's got to be, it would have been any time soon.
[1:31:38] The problem is Western News physically pulls out.
[1:31:39] People don't send enough wire to Western News to run on.
[1:31:41] Western News is trying to cut down their purpose.
[1:31:42] They cut down their purpose and they're over something.
[1:31:43] They're over something.
[1:32:01] We've got some lighters for part two, won't we?
[1:32:02] It was the beginning of various people running to the district offices, over pushing stuff.
[1:32:05] Question D, and actually the slinger.
[1:32:25] I'm sorry, unless they're zeroing in on the stakes of the swinger senators that have given them a massive overpayment.
[1:32:53] We've got a lot of our problems now.
[1:32:54] We've got some good ideas here now.
[1:32:54] We've got so many volunteers, tight people around that we don't even want to help them.
[1:32:57] We sell the sent telegrams, and then what else do they do?
[1:32:58] We're going to start some other things.
[1:32:59] We're going to start demonstrating.
[1:33:00] What we're going to demonstrate is some petitions to agree.
[1:33:01] There are people that volunteer petitions.
[1:33:02] There's a lot of people that do the same.
[1:33:35] No.
[1:34:46] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
[1:35:19] The main thing is really just to constantly have somebody on the phone with them when getting any poll results.
[1:35:22] I'd see that every one of those people get these poll results.
[1:35:23] They'll carry it.
[1:35:24] They'll pick it up around the country.
[1:35:51] You know, they get the hard, tough, rough wind.
[1:35:52] That's kind of why, in a sense, the American security team helped us enormously with the southern campaign.
[1:36:14] Yes.
[1:36:43] I think this now, you cannot play anything else than rough.
[1:36:46] After all, when the Democrats talk about impeachment, when they talk about World War III and all that bullshit, when they refuse to use the word invasion, they ought to be killed on that invasion.
[1:36:55] We should try to please them more than ever.
[1:37:15] They ran a gap, and that's pretty good.
[1:37:16] It's a reaction to what we kind of saw.
[1:37:16] That's where you ran, right?
[1:37:17] Right.
[1:37:17] What happened?
[1:37:18] Yeah.
[1:37:18] The water, somebody did a complaint about Vietnam.
[1:37:19] The water there was a...
[1:37:49] Did they ever do that one?
[1:38:24] I think it's a...
[1:38:53] It's a tough thing to go through, but it's a good test for our whole campaign.
[1:38:55] The media approved it.
[1:38:56] It's a good time for the Democrats to crack the media.
[1:38:57] Crack the media thing?
[1:38:58] Crack that.
[1:38:58] No, never crack it.
[1:38:59] We had the media in that kind of trouble, and then the media.
[1:39:00] They took it off.
[1:39:01] They took it.
[1:39:01] This obviously was over the top, but it moved back onto the media.
[1:39:03] It was the media being.
[1:39:19] The President gets buried, tail ends the story, and some obscure state senator says something and gets featured.
[1:39:49] He called me this morning and he said that he wanted to do a
[1:40:22] Sure.
[1:40:22] On the way up to me and next to me.
[1:40:23] No, no.
[1:40:24] If he were to be at the main scene with me, he's not going to be at the main scene with me.
[1:40:26] He's set to be at the main scene with me.
[1:40:27] Sure.
[1:40:27] But he's still thinking a little bit on it.
[1:40:28] That's right.
[1:40:28] Well, that can be a hand-in-hand bill from that point of view.
[1:40:30] That's just the way it is.
[1:40:30] You're not going to get him to understand the other side of that.
[1:40:32] I gave him the full results of it.
[1:40:33] I'm sitting at the point.
[1:40:33] It's not the one that he was
[1:40:58] On this one now, how do you, I mean, how do you do search releases?
[1:41:00] Well, we send it to them.
[1:41:01] We call them.
[1:41:01] Oh, like all the captain officers, all the speakers, and all our, our advocate players, the workers.
[1:41:04] People who do some good, you know, phone call us.
[1:41:05] You know, that's another thing, phone call.
[1:41:06] Well, you know, we...
[1:41:27] We'll cover this one.
[1:41:28] What's his name?
[1:41:28] Clawson.
[1:41:29] Clawson.
[1:41:29] He's that woman I sent.
[1:41:30] He knows.
[1:41:30] He's actually a great counselor.
[1:41:31] The worst thing was that first bullet we put out last week.
[1:41:33] We couldn't get anybody in.
[1:41:33] Okay.
[1:41:33] They put it out.
[1:41:34] They didn't get nobody.
[1:41:34] Nobody.
[1:41:44] lost to get married and finally got a big story on the Washington Post and then it got picked up.
[1:41:47] In fact, what happened was that one of the Washington Post senators, the only mistake for what happened was, after he pitched that in law, he just didn't take no for an answer.
[1:41:51] That's the one virtue, you know, just constantly kind of stay in front of the old book, stay in front of the articles, which is the old text, are they being expressed, are they being tracked again, or are they changing?
[1:41:57] They're changing now.
[1:41:58] So he's 50.
[1:42:12] The thing is, I don't know how hard we put it, but the thing that strictly interprets it to me
[1:42:43] 80% or 80 billion people saw off the president in their living room, explained to them what he was doing and why, and they understood what he said.
[1:42:47] And the thing is, if all the rest of the practice doesn't make any difference,
[1:43:07] the people, the pervasive sum of the country.
[1:43:09] Well, what the hell are they getting at?
[1:43:13] What the hell?
[1:43:13] Well, you know, it's true.
[1:43:15] There's a lot of cases.
[1:43:16] What the hell?
[1:43:17] That's right.
[1:43:35] We're hooting and peering, and they're saying, you know, go home.
[1:43:39] Yeah, what else do you expect the president to do?
[1:43:43] And this is, somehow or another, how often these decades have been marred and failed for the Japanese, the American people.
[1:43:54] I guess by the start, the 80 million people that saw it on the internet, that's just what it is.
[1:43:56] They could listen to it.
[1:43:56] Or at least, foreign policy experts speculated on it so that it just doesn't get...
[1:43:58] It obviously doesn't sound good.
[1:43:59] We've got it.
[1:43:59] We've got it.
[1:44:00] And this president, it distresses everybody in the world.
[1:44:01] He told them that we've got this.
[1:44:17] No, there's nobody who believes we shouldn't, and there are very few reasons how the people get distressed every time we do.
[1:44:20] They believe we should do it, but they don't like the act of doing it.
[1:44:41] They don't think we should talk about fairness and all that.
[1:44:42] And we should.
[1:44:43] It's not a dissent.
[1:44:49] Howard Smith told me this weekend that Riesner had gotten more complaints than any single court.
[1:44:52] He apologized on the end as a result of those complaints, I'm sure.
[1:44:55] And last night he called me, Riesner.
[1:44:56] He said, maybe I was in, I probably was in the country for what I said last night.
[1:44:59] He said that because he knows that he's getting all those complaints from local stations, that it's affecting the viewership.
[1:45:03] That wasn't sensitive to Eric Riesner, so that's why.
[1:45:18] yeah yeah
[1:45:50] That's one thing.
[1:45:51] Well, yeah, it's always been.
[1:46:19] He gave the best commentary I've ever seen.
[1:46:36] One thing we've got to do is we can't think of one whenever you're out traveling.
[1:46:40] We've got to put a big sign saying, Washington Press Corps.
[1:46:44] Exactly what the press does.
[1:46:45] Not just press, but Washington Press Corps.
[1:46:48] Then we've got to get some photos and start throwing some rocks at them.
[1:46:55] No, really.
[1:46:56] Not rocks, but eggs.
[1:46:57] Eggs and tomatoes.
[1:47:01] They'll say, don't put Washington Press Club on our bus.
[1:47:04] That's discriminating.
[1:47:05] Just put the press.
[1:47:06] We'll say, you're ashamed to do the Washington Press Club.
[1:47:09] No, no, leave it off.
[1:47:09] Just say Washington Press Club.
[1:47:11] Local press, Washington Press Club.
[1:47:13] You know this is it.
[1:47:24] The Novak theme, in other words.
[1:47:49] The way to do it is read it in the record, get it out, so Charles Bussing is asked to get a copy of the period out, read it in the record, and discovers that four days earlier, Gordon Allen had already read it into the record.
[1:47:55] That's a lot of work.
[1:47:56] We find
[1:48:20] We've also circulated that for all restaurants.
[1:48:22] But we have now
[1:48:46] We've got to wait until we might put a one-page summary on it.
[1:48:50] Listen, Novak says the working present is frozen.
[1:48:52] Well, there's already things to do now, isn't there?
[1:48:54] Yeah, there's something for somebody to do.
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[1:53:35] That's Captain Griffin.
[1:53:35] So we've got a leader today, plus Captain Griffin.
[1:53:37] Those are the big guns that fire.
[1:53:38] Maybe they'll go with the design.
[1:53:39] Well, I'm sure you'll leave something for tomorrow.
[1:53:40] Tomorrow will be, I hope, what I've done.
[1:53:41] Right.
[1:53:42] And we'll also try not to go to the Virgin Sanctuary.
[1:53:43] Perfect, yeah.
[1:54:07] He told me last night at dinner, he said, I, for the first time since this war began, I just killed a female.
[1:54:10] I said, we've got to kill him until the person has done his kind of work.
[1:54:12] He said, I think the Soviets are going to back down.
[1:54:14] He said, that's what he's going to do.
[1:54:15] I said, right.
[1:54:16] Well, he said, but if they don't, we still are going to win.
[1:54:17] Well, his, he just, it's just that he's feeling very up.
[1:54:19] You know, he's feeling very strong.
[1:54:20] He was very impressed with his people.
[1:54:37] He said, I'm sorry.
[1:54:37] He said, this man should be consulted.
[1:54:38] He said, yes, sir.
[1:54:39] How could I consult him?
[1:54:39] I liked him a lot.
[1:55:14] He was buried there.
[1:55:14] But he's at Lescott and that's their conclusion that they dropped him and told him he can't go to the police.
[1:55:42] You're just going to let this out as an R.C.
[1:55:43] release, and then it's back to where you're going to use it as an R.C.
[1:55:45] release?
[1:55:45] Don't we have some R.C.
[1:55:45] letters in here?
[1:55:46] Okay.
[1:55:46] Right.
[1:55:46] Okay.
[1:56:05] That's the one thing that makes Chuck Maynard finally better.
[1:56:07] We, in all the years that we've been struggling through these battles, we've never succeeded in this.
[1:56:28] This is the first time that we, you know, the first time we've gotten a legitimate poster with credibility.
[1:56:31] So let us take your questions to be released.
[1:56:32] So now they've been, so the wires have been, you know, before they'd always insist on doing the whole folder and all that kind of crap and all the caveats.
[1:56:37] Now they let us write their releases and take your questions.
[1:56:56] I'll do that one there.
[1:56:57] I may have credibility for as he is.
[1:56:58] And then Settler here, who's got great shape and getting some money.
[1:57:00] He's telling him that he's getting a hell of a lot of money.
[1:57:02] He's got a lot of money.
[1:57:02] He's got a lot of money.
[1:57:03] And Harris, who's got good shape.
[1:57:04] And Gallup, at least, who's got a lot of money.
[1:57:24] which we've always, we've been down somewhere.
[1:57:25] Gallop will show a war that we live in.
[1:57:26] You know, the way that also states that Gallop people were crushed at one time.
[1:57:28] It's one of the two main places we live around.
[1:57:38] I'm talking about showing a higher thing on your V-socket than you got and a much lower thing on your axis.
[1:57:41] Okay.
[1:57:42] I'm talking about showing that 82% or something agree with your V-socket withdrawal and that only 63% or something agree with your...
[1:57:59] And then he would just come out and say, he writes in his release, he's going to put the O.R.C.
[1:58:02] release.
[1:58:02] This shows that the American people are overwhelmingly ready to stand by the president in any military action.
[1:58:06] He's promised to take it, or he can't do that.
[1:58:08] He ruined it.
[1:58:08] That's what he said to us.
[1:58:10] I said, don't put that in the release.
[1:58:11] Just give us a spot.
[1:58:11] We're going to send it to the O.R.C.
[1:58:12] What happened to him?
[1:58:25] There is not one ounce of subtlety in Pat Buchanan's entire body.
[1:58:27] None.
[1:58:27] And yet, he was not subtle at all in the media, but unless he did, he did a marvelous job.
[1:58:30] He was very direct and very efficient.
[1:58:31] He was good at looking.
[1:58:31] And they look at him because he's so insincere.
[1:58:32] That's ingenuous.
[1:58:33] He just looks like a...
[1:58:33] Subtle.
[1:58:51] He says something, he just broke any possibility.
[1:59:09] Did they give any frank or rock color to Reagan?
[1:59:11] I guess they never did.
[1:59:12] They listed rock color.
[1:59:13] There was one set of gold and not of Reagan.
[1:59:37] And they just list people's names.
[1:59:38] Robert Miller, Robert Miller is incidentally the oldest.
[1:59:40] He kind of started it and picked it up and said, he took a pretty soft approach.
[1:59:42] He says the president is very good at his own decision.
[1:59:43] And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I,
[2:00:09] And they were both, after the speech, very resistant.
[2:00:10] And what they said to him later, the same people around him who write their statements are soft.
[2:00:14] That's exactly, that's exactly what Henry said to himself.
[2:00:15] He said, what did he say about that group?
[2:00:17] Somebody, you know, you can do it one way or the other.
[2:00:19] Yeah, there's somebody in here.
[2:00:38] You all agree that I should not go up to bat now.
[2:00:40] You've got to go through the next week before I go up to bat.
[2:00:43] You might have to dress now.
[2:00:44] Maybe you don't know that now.
[2:00:45] Maybe you can't possibly go up to bat now.
[2:01:00] The obvious thing
[2:01:25] They're going to do it anyway.
[2:01:25] You don't need to do it for them.
[2:01:26] Their support isn't going to help them.
[2:01:27] I mean, we've already got...
[2:01:59] He was speaking Monday night, along with Jim Buckley, and they were gathering friends, and he was trying to get them to help him speak to me.
[2:02:28] The state's people around him who write their statements are soft.
[2:02:33] That's exactly that.
[2:02:34] That's exactly what Henry said.
[2:02:36] What did he say about that move?
[2:02:40] You all agree.
[2:02:41] You all agree with him.
[2:02:55] that I should not go up to that now.
[2:02:56] You've got to go through the next week before I go up to that.
[2:02:58] Well, that'll be done.
[2:02:58] That'll have that end.
[2:02:58] We'll get that out of the way.
[2:02:59] I think that ought to be handled in another way.
[2:03:00] Then let a week go.
[2:03:01] The battle's got to go.
[2:03:01] Bombing and all the rest.
[2:03:02] We'll see what happens.
[2:03:02] At least a week after that.
[2:03:25] All these things, the obvious thing comes up with whether one of the ways to have the supporters that we're trying to get in and .
[2:03:31] I just don't know.
[2:03:32] I think we've got to do this other way.
[2:03:34] President DeWars, he had asked me before this came about to see that on a different kind of ground.
[2:03:40] To get to the question, we've got the American nation, the VFW.
[2:04:10] I don't know if that's the right word.
[2:04:39] That's what we have to settle those.
[2:04:40] Because I don't know, of course, what the message is next week.
[2:04:42] That's all right.
[2:04:42] That's correct.
[2:04:43] Put him on.
[2:04:43] Be sure that you guys are not leaving the presence.
[2:04:44] I don't worry shit.
[2:04:45] Put him on so that he can serve.
[2:04:45] I don't know how he can do it, but he comes back.
[2:04:47] If he can get to us on everything over there, he can come back and do a slide with us.
[2:04:49] If he can...
[2:05:09] What I would like to do is to have him come back after this trip, report it to me, and go out and have the press conference, and then lie in the elevator in the age room until he catches his note, and then pick up the line and go back.
[2:06:02] Not big, but semi-violent.
[2:06:03] Where did you get shot?
[2:06:04] Police?
[2:06:04] Oh, yeah.
[2:06:04] The official report says about a person.
[2:06:35] to demonstrate that they blocked traffic on the freeway.
[2:06:37] See, this is what we're doing.
[2:06:38] The Calgary had blocked traffic on the freeway.
[2:06:40] In Berkeley, they went into City Castle.
[2:07:07] They got 4,000.
[2:07:08] And as of last night, they are actually the state capitalists in general.
[2:07:28] I don't think that hurt so well.
[2:07:29] This, I'd say, is not a part of it.
[2:07:30] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:30] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:31] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:31] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:32] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:32] It's not a part of it.
[2:07:33] It's not a part of it.
[2:08:00] It's, uh, they're not, they're not getting much out of it.
[2:08:02] They're getting, you know, they're not sustaining any of those parallel countries.
[2:08:04] Most of the day, you know, the media, Rachel O'Rourke, they stop you by saying you're going to be a massive rally.
[2:08:07] What do you think about, there's nothing to do about this, right?
[2:08:08] I don't think it's, I don't think it's,
[2:08:26] at a point where it is pulled together under the National Peace Act control within the schedule of the first Saturday here in Washington, and they prevent it at the Washington area.
[2:08:36] I don't think it's that bad.
[2:08:38] It originally said 200,000 people.
[2:08:39] Now they've dropped it to 5,000.
[2:08:41] I think it's a plus.
[2:08:42] If they turn those several hundred thousand,
[2:09:05] They can only get him to prison for a long period of time.
[2:09:07] Then he just tells them, because they had to get this picture, but it's not that neat.
[2:09:10] I hope he runs up a long-haired picture of you.
[2:09:12] They think he's got positive crushes, you know.
[2:09:13] He said, well, you see what it does is cause, in 14, he said, I was signing a lawsuit to put on the federal court.
[2:09:16] He said, you have to get out of here.
[2:09:29] Some of that counter-reaction is important to us, because that's the option.
[2:09:32] Some of them have calories on the L, and now they're just here for hours, and they're holding up signs.
[2:09:36] But they don't, none of them, they're not being, they're not, the interesting thing is the media's not, this is not a media report, this is an FBI report.
[2:09:41] Maybe, but the media doesn't realize it, doesn't help them.
[2:09:43] They run stories, and it's very, it is a bunch of big things, you know, students smash downtown areas on Facebook.
[2:10:01] Sort of a wrap-up.
[2:10:01] But it's good.
[2:10:02] If you have the big stories, I need to have them in the other country, because the country was really fun.
[2:10:04] Yeah.
[2:10:04] This way.
[2:10:05] I don't know if it's isolated.
[2:10:05] I will write this poll.
[2:10:06] It's important.
[2:10:06] Yeah.
[2:10:07] Second.
[2:10:07] What I did was, I wouldn't mind seeing who would just raise some hell in some of the very closest, because it would run very well together.
[2:10:10] It might be good in New York.
[2:10:11] Because they get marked downtown in New York.
[2:10:12] Yeah.
[2:10:33] I'll let things out if it's possible.
[2:10:59] Unbelievable.
[2:10:59] They ought to be boarded.
[2:11:01] I just had no idea.
[2:11:01] Boarded by the New York police.
[2:11:02] Our dads had never even got to board it.
[2:11:29] Do you really think this is what we're having this experience?
[2:11:32] I think it is.
[2:11:32] They're getting this.
[2:11:33] Oh, I think it is.
[2:11:34] That was the main question.
[2:11:35] Oh, I think this, these things don't align this way.
[2:11:37] They've got a network around the country, and they set it off.
[2:11:39] So this, this just drives the, you know, fires, and they have a little... Let's get out, Bob.
[2:11:44] There's a lot that we can do.
[2:11:45] We've got the FBI and the CIA.
[2:11:47] They're going to get high as a man.
[2:11:49] All I can say is that this is part of the problem.
[2:11:50] It's a conspiracy that somebody can get out on the floor of the Senate.
[2:11:53] We can deal with that.
[2:11:54] Let's get the Cretan Communist conspiracy thing on this.
[2:11:58] You know, that's why I think you'll be able to do a little jumping around in that speech, Johnny.
[2:12:05] And a little support from Henry and I.
[2:12:08] Cut out.
[2:12:10] Again, a line about, I know that there is one of the patriotic, lawful, well-intentioned students.
[2:12:17] So what do you call this?
[2:12:19] I appealed to him.
[2:12:21] I said, bullshit.
[2:12:22] They're not patriotic.
[2:12:24] I just said, there are those who want to get out.
[2:12:27] You know, I'm a patriot.
[2:12:29] That's the right thing.
[2:12:31] I think we should quit being tolerant to our enemies.
[2:12:35] Well, if you had said what you really described, that wouldn't have been a good thing.
[2:12:52] He's going to be in person.
[2:13:24] Tomorrow and Friday.
[2:13:25] And actually, we'll call it an article.
[2:13:26] We'll give you a slightly better way.
[2:13:27] All right.
[2:13:28] All right.
[2:13:28] All right.
[2:18:07] I'm trying to do a follow-up, sir.
[2:18:08] We've got a visitor in the cabin.
[2:18:09] Well, they are not, well, they are all important, but just so they are, they cannot be blamed in it for rocket.
[2:18:12] It is, it is important for me to know, because they, they all have speeches in the next few days.
[2:18:16] Rockets, the stronger they hit them, the better.
[2:18:17] It needs to be pumped up.
[2:18:18] That's a, that's the thing we have to appreciate in that, in regular days.
[2:18:20] It's, it's one of the things I understand about it.
[2:18:47] Really?
[2:20:36] We've got the schedule cleared for us to complete this project.
[2:21:14] I'm not going to see them until we know what they do on this one.
[2:21:59] Well, I wouldn't like to have to list all the boys today.
[2:22:55] Thank you.
[2:23:42] Well, I think so.
[2:23:42] It's hard to help us fly in right away.
[2:24:20] How about doing the metals for Greg?
[2:25:00] The only thing I always support is that I can take this.
[2:25:20] I think it's a bad idea.
[2:25:21] I think that's it.
[2:25:22] Well, that's it.
[2:25:23] It looks like we're good.
[2:25:57] I think Ray is in good shape.
[2:25:59] He is.
[2:26:00] He's done a good job.
[2:26:27] I think we ought to go over and see.
[2:27:01] This is about to be next Monday.
[2:27:02] No, it's probably not next.
[2:27:03] No, it's Wednesday.
[2:27:03] Monday is Thursday.
[2:27:04] That's why I was going to be here.
[2:27:05] I was going to leave on Saturday.
[2:27:37] Because the Russian thing goes, I think you probably don't let it go ahead and go.
[2:27:40] You get a good... Oh, you mean the Russian trip is what it's all about.
[2:27:42] Well, that's a big...
[2:27:42] But anyway, if that shit happens, I'm sure we'll let it go, but if the Russian thing is canceled, then I do think they had that come out on top of it.
[2:27:47] Yeah.
[2:28:10] The other thing I wonder, especially when you're out of the place and you're in this weather, show us on the note.
[2:29:02] I think we've got a couple of shows in the morning.
[2:29:40] Until we have a page turning.
[2:30:23] I don't know whether this whole situation here at the top of your cities, the whole consideration and the balance of this point of view is going to be just one more negative shock, in a sense, that you pull out right in the middle of it.
[2:30:29] Especially right on top of the cancellation of the rain, some of you, and they say, well, we're going to cancel it.
[2:30:33] He thinks about it.
[2:30:33] He thinks about it.
[2:30:34] He thinks about it.
[2:31:31] There's obviously the possibility that everybody makes the pension for better or worse.
[2:32:00] We have to face her, all that kind of stuff.
[2:34:20] If you don't have any concerns about what we do on GSA.
[2:34:22] Sure.
[2:34:22] The other question is how strongly do you feel about getting Drummer out of the Federal Reserve?
[2:34:25] About the only way it looks like we can get him out is if you don't care about him now.
[2:34:51] Well, before it turns out, apparently the front row isn't as bad as it's getting hard for some trouble with.
[2:34:55] It's a hard thing.
[2:34:56] Easy money.
[2:34:57] That's good.
[2:34:57] I asked Tom.
[2:34:58] Tom is up to him.
[2:35:20] Arthur is asking for a quadrihead.
[2:35:21] You do talk to Tom, don't you?
[2:35:22] Yeah.
[2:35:22] It's actually George and Chelsea.
[2:35:23] He's picking these up in little bits and pieces.
[2:35:24] They're not making a sense of what he's got.
[2:35:47] He thinks that Arthur is losing control of the board, and maybe of his whole position, because he went in as a free-enter running man, coach Freeman, and all that, and then shifted to offer controls and all that stuff, and said he was going to have a shift that would forge the tension from interest rate
[2:36:17] The monetary aggregates have been more screwed up since our original chairman at any time in history.
[2:36:19] They've had a lot of negative votes since the board voted.
[2:36:21] The board has not gone with Arthur's positions.
[2:36:22] Martin never took an advocate position.
[2:36:23] He all worked to avoid consensus.
[2:36:24] Arthur takes a position on the point that he had been voted down on.
[2:36:26] So there's some proper civility.
[2:36:48] And there's an internal battle of who should run the federal economy, show the business method of language.
[2:36:51] And if we get the younger guy, there you go.
[2:36:52] And our new appointees, it's ironic, you know, Carter is being accused by the MP4 people of trying to put in more than he can control.
[2:36:55] And that's why these young guys have been brought in and off.
[2:36:57] And it's not known that their age people are in this boat.
[2:37:20] Then he talked about the 5 a.m. meeting.
[2:37:21] George said, well, Parker, you don't
[2:37:55] I don't think Jesus was buried alive.
[2:37:56] He died alive.
[2:38:24] Before we go, bottle up and down, drop back, put in drops, or a couple of scoops, down the drop, and call 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-
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[2:40:18] And that probably was canceled.
[2:40:19] I'll do that.
[2:40:47] I didn't want to shove that out in public until we knew what was going to happen.
[2:40:54] A lot of stuff is cranking around and we don't want that to happen.
[2:40:58] I'm told my disadvantage is going to be horrible.
[2:41:20] Oh, yeah, that's right.
[2:41:21] Yeah, okay.
[2:42:01] Yes, sir.
[2:42:01] Yes, sir.
[2:42:02] Yes, sir.
[2:42:37] Harder, harder, harder.
[2:43:33] Well, they have the ability to do what they want to do.
[2:43:35] They can do what they want to do.
[2:43:36] They can do what they want to do.
[2:44:33] Come on.
[2:46:39] Fire that hole.