{"conversationCode":"338-006","tapeNumber":338,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-338-006","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:12:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1972","startTime":"11:07 AM","endDate":"9-May-1972","endTime":"11:12 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\");","description":"On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:07 am and 11:12 am. 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Nixon expressed confidence in the effectiveness of these measures despite concerns that they might jeopardize the upcoming Moscow summit. 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