{"conversationCode":"338-012","tapeNumber":338,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-338-012","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:32:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1972","startTime":"11:24 AM","endDate":"9-May-1972","endTime":"11:32 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:24 am and 11:32 am. 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(“Bebe”) Rebozo's report\n                         -Emotion\n                         -Democrats\n                    -Spontaneity\n                         -President's previous speech\n                    -Ronald L. Ziegler’s previous press conference","filename":["338a.mp3","338b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:36:27","tapeEnd":"00:38:10","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"338-011","nextCode":"338-013","tapeTranscriptFile":"338a.mp3,338b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":2160.38,"end":2167.17,"text":"All right, bye."},{"start":2167.49,"end":2170.8,"text":"I didn't want to, this is not as important, but I didn't notice anything."},{"start":2170.88,"end":2178.34,"text":"Can you, could you have a checkmate before I see him, or whether he could put in a sort of tool there, and he might want to be alone?"},{"start":2178.38,"end":2178.66,"text":"No, no."},{"start":2183.15,"end":2191.2,"text":"I'd like to tell Walter about it today."},{"start":2191.66,"end":2208.65,"text":"Incidentally, I just had a call from Bozo, and he said that, I mean, of course, this is typical of the buses, but that was the reaction he heard, so it was,"},{"start":2212.08,"end":2217.03,"text":"There's something emotional going on, cracking down."},{"start":2217.09,"end":2221.36,"text":"Democrats are the tendency citizens to say, thank God we did something."},{"start":2221.55,"end":2223.04,"text":"They know it's going to take time."},{"start":2223.1,"end":2224.62,"text":"They're all prepared for it."},{"start":2224.64,"end":2225.52,"text":"They're prepared for it."},{"start":2230.89,"end":2231.89,"text":"Of course, well, that's right."},{"start":2231.91,"end":2233.14,"text":"At this time, we don't have to."},{"start":2233.16,"end":2234.84,"text":"It may be, but we don't have to go to that point."},{"start":2234.86,"end":2239.82,"text":"My point is that, like, remember, third, you know, we did build something, but I think most of that was spontaneous, wasn't it?"},{"start":2239.84,"end":2250.26,"text":"I think there's stuff last time we got through that we heard that was a good reaction."},{"start":2250.34,"end":2254.92,"text":"Let's see if that's good."},{"start":2254.94,"end":2255.1,"text":"Great."},{"start":2255.24,"end":2255.38,"text":"Great."},{"start":2255.4,"end":2255.68,"text":"Okay."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":2160.375,"end":2263,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss the public reaction to the administration's recent Vietnam blockade policy, noting reports from Charles 'Bebe' Rebozo that the move generated significant emotional support, even among Democrats. The two also coordinate the logistics and site selection for the installation of a White House swimming pool with a contractor named Walter. 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