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Nixon & Rush on Vietnam War and Paris Peace Talks

Tuesday, May 9, 1972 · 11:53 AM–11:56 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Rush, [David] KennethConversation338-021 on Tape 338 (tape position 00:49:02–00:50:59)StartTuesday, May 9, 1972 at 11:53 AMEndTuesday, May 9, 1972 at 11:56 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 338-021 ↗

President Nixon and Deputy Secretary of State Kenneth Rush discussed the administration's firm stance on ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations. Nixon praised Rush for his public defense of the administration's policies and reiterated the government's commitment to its recent peace proposal, which offered a full withdrawal of troops within four months in exchange for a ceasefire and the release of American prisoners. The conversation underscored the administration's resolve to remain on course while pressuring North Vietnam to accept the conciliatory terms.

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48:49Okay, I didn't get to see your program, but my spy said you did a hell of a good job.
48:55I just wanted you to know.
48:56Appreciate it.
48:56Well, we appreciate it.
48:58You've done the right thing.
49:02Now we're going to stick to course, and you bastards are either going to settle or they're going to take down the city.
49:09That's going to be it.
49:15And also, we made a dang conciliatory offer.
49:17Let's not forget that.
49:18What more could you offer if we said we'll get out in four months if you give us our prisoners in a ceasefire?
49:30Thank you.
49:33I appreciate your hard work.
49:41Okay.
49:42See you tonight.
50:38Uh, I don't know whether he's a villain or a cop, uh, but he's probably an animal, a rat, or a, uh, an artisan.
50:43You're telling me I'm a friend.
50:49Correct.
50:49That's what I'm saying.

On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and [David] Kenneth Rush met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:53 am and 11:56 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 338-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 338-21

Date: May 9, 1972
Time: Unknown after 11:53-11:56 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The White House operator talked with the President.

The President talked with [David] Kenneth Rush between 11:55 and 11:56 am.

[See Conversation No. 24-50]
  • 338-018 11:42 AM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:50 am.
  • 024-048 11:50 AM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:50 am.
  • 338-019 11:50 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 11:50 am.
  • 024-049 11:53 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:53 am.
  • 024-050 11:53 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and [David] Kenneth Rush talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:53 am and 11:56 am.
  • 338-020 11:53 AM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 11:53 am.
  • 024-051 11:56 AM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:56 am and 12:05 pm.
  • 338-022 11:56 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:56 am and 12:05 pm.

Conversation 338-021, May 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/338-021 (accessed October 9, 2026).