{"conversationCode":"338-034","tapeNumber":338,"conversationNumber":34,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-338-034","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T17:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T17:17:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1972","startTime":"1:12 PM","endDate":"9-May-1972","endTime":"1:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:12 pm and 1:17 pm. 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Stennis\n               -Support for President\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Florida trip\n          -Soviet Summit\n                 -Cancellation\n                      -Timing\n                      -President's handling\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Blockade\n               -Demonstrations\n\n                     -Size\n                             -Cambodian invasion\n                             -Kent State\n               -Support\n                    -Scope\n                    -Extent\n                         -Wires","filename":["338a.mp3","338b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:32:12","tapeEnd":"01:35:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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