{"conversationCode":"339-005","tapeNumber":339,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-339-005","startDateTime":"1972-05-16T00:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-16T01:16:00.000Z","startDate":"15-May-1972","startTime":"8:10 PM","endDate":"15-May-1972","endTime":"9:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Yates, Nellie L.; Felt, W. Mark;","description":"On May 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Nellie L. Yates, and W. Mark Felt met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:10 pm and 9:16 pm. 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Mark Felt talked with the President between 8:15 and 8:18 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 339-5A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 24-116]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 8m 10s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n     President's travels\n          -Moscow’s [Soviet] Summit\n          -Iran\n          -Previous travels\n          -Warsaw\n\n     Wallace\n\n          -Future victories\n               -Maryland\n\n     Robert F. Kennedy\n\n     John B. Connally\n          -Wounding in John F. Kennedy assassination\n\n     Wallace\n          -Assassination attempt\n               -Responsibility\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 11m 33s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n*****************************************************************\n\nYates left at an unknown time before 9:16 pm.","filename":["339a.mp3","339b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:05:20","tapeEnd":"02:35:28","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Yates, Nellie L.","Felt, W. Mark"],"prevCode":"339-004","nextCode":"339-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"339a.mp3,339b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":7450.55,"end":7451.63,"text":"8 o'clock now."},{"start":7451.65,"end":7454.31,"text":"Why don't we wait until about 10.30 or so to get a summary report."},{"start":7454.37,"end":7455.73,"text":"I'll get to you then."},{"start":7455.77,"end":7456.67,"text":"Call me at 10.30."},{"start":7456.77,"end":7457.87,"text":"Okay, sir."},{"start":7457.91,"end":7458.45,"text":"Dinner's free."},{"start":7458.49,"end":7458.81,"text":"Very good."},{"start":7671.15,"end":7672.37,"text":"What do you think of all this?"},{"start":7673.07,"end":7679.8,"text":"I can't say necessarily, because I'm watching that on television, but I can't wait."},{"start":7679.82,"end":7684.63,"text":"Robert Kennedy, you know, I remember him writing to me the other night when we watched that happen."},{"start":7695.37,"end":7695.61,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":7695.63,"end":7695.89,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":7695.91,"end":7696.15,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":7696.17,"end":7696.43,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":7733,"end":7734.04,"text":"You know, I used to follow, you know, I had a long hair."},{"start":7734.06,"end":7734.5,"text":"I was getting married."},{"start":7793.26,"end":7794.68,"text":"You know, we're at Margaret College now, where there's very hungry ladies."},{"start":7794.7,"end":7794.82,"text":"I know."},{"start":7794.84,"end":7795.34,"text":"They shot Pedro as well."},{"start":7795.36,"end":7795.46,"text":"Right."},{"start":7795.48,"end":7795.94,"text":"They're very hungry now."},{"start":7795.96,"end":7796.38,"text":"They're very hungry."},{"start":7796.4,"end":7796.78,"text":"Well, they shot him."},{"start":7796.8,"end":7797.06,"text":"They shot him."},{"start":7797.08,"end":7797.5,"text":"You know, particularly..."},{"start":7825.49,"end":7825.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7825.69,"end":7825.79,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7854.77,"end":7856.85,"text":"Welcome back."},{"start":7887.11,"end":7887.23,"text":"Woof!"},{"start":7927.06,"end":7927.72,"text":"They didn't have guns."},{"start":7927.74,"end":7928.68,"text":"It wasn't a hell of a thing to hit him."},{"start":7928.7,"end":7929.06,"text":"Don't you agree?"},{"start":7929.08,"end":7933.72,"text":"With this fellow, the main thing is to be sure that we don't go through the things that we went through with the Kennedy assassination, because if we did, we'd follow them back and we'd be gone."},{"start":7933.74,"end":7936.88,"text":"We've got to remember that if we don't follow them back, even with this fellow, they're not going to put a line down."},{"start":7956.2,"end":7957.37,"text":"Can't be shot in the body, Joseph."},{"start":7990.32,"end":7995.78,"text":"Well, the main thing is you'll keep right on it."},{"start":7995.84,"end":8008.47,"text":"Remember, the FBI is in charge, and they're responsible, and I don't want to be so much of a hit."},{"start":8008.65,"end":8009.79,"text":"Right."},{"start":8009.83,"end":8010.15,"text":"Bye."},{"start":8010.19,"end":8011.91,"text":"We appreciate your coming."},{"start":8011.95,"end":8013.23,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8013.25,"end":8013.76,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8054.65,"end":8054.91,"text":"There you go."},{"start":8566.87,"end":8567.75,"text":"You can run it and be faster."},{"start":8567.77,"end":8568.69,"text":"You can run it and be faster."},{"start":8596.7,"end":8598.26,"text":"I was there at nine, of course, and I was gone."},{"start":8598.28,"end":8600.36,"text":"And I was there briefly, and I was just stumbling on my way to school."},{"start":8600.39,"end":8602.09,"text":"It was evening, and I was just stumbling on my way to school."},{"start":8602.11,"end":8603.45,"text":"And I was just stumbling on my way to school."},{"start":8650.93,"end":8651.31,"text":"You'll win big now."},{"start":8651.33,"end":8651.75,"text":"You'll sleep merrily."},{"start":8651.77,"end":8652.09,"text":"Whatever you do."},{"start":8720.39,"end":8720.57,"text":"Thank you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7449.125,"end":9328,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Nellie L. 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