{"conversationCode":"340-017","tapeNumber":340,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-340-017","startDateTime":"1972-06-06T14:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-06T14:26:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Jun-1972","startTime":"10:15 AM","endDate":"6-Jun-1972","endTime":"10:26 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On June 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:15 am and 10:26 am. 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Kissinger.\n\n     Poland\n          -President's previous talk with Edward Gierek\n                -Freedom of religion\n                      -Catholic leaders\n                      -Compared with Soviet Union\n                -Domestic reaction in US\n                -John Cardinal Krol\n                      -Possible trip to Poland\n                -Cardinal Stefan Wyszynski\n                      -Possible trip to US\n                -Exclusion of State Department\n                -Economic issues","filename":["340a.mp3","340aii.mp3","340b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:40:19","tapeEnd":"01:43:14","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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The discussion centered on potential exchanges between high-ranking Catholic clergy, such as Cardinal Krol and Cardinal Wyszynski, to leverage the impression of openness conveyed by Polish leader Edward Gierek. 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