Nixon, Haldeman & Ehrlichman on Public Relations and Foreign Policy

1:43:14in Washington, clouding with thunderstorms in Camp David, clouding with thunderstorms in Peter's Game, clouding with thunderstorms in San Clemente, and clouding with thunderstorms in Palm Springs.
1:43:26So, bad as it was, we couldn't have done any better anywhere else, apparently.
1:43:32Yeah, I think the problem was, it was huge, I had to deal with it huge.
1:43:34I had to set up a business.
1:43:37But he used to make a ruthless check on the weather before we'd ever go anyplace in the future.
1:43:43Because that was forecast, and there was no possibility to change.
1:43:48That it was going to be during the night, and hell, if I want to sit around, I'm going to sit around, you know.
1:43:56I can't take it and sit around and float.
1:43:59I mean, it's no problem.
1:44:00Somehow, we didn't mind it, but, you know.
1:44:02Yeah, and it's too bad to go all the way down there and then go out about, you know, one hour a day.
1:44:07It's not worth hanging on to all the press.
1:44:12But now you've had that followed up with Kevin DeBrennan or somebody, one of the following types of guys, right?
1:44:18The Navy got into that pretty good.
1:44:22What you really, I really want to know, in other words, if I'm playing film, they say, look, we've really got that.
1:44:26What's your final film?
1:44:27Are you going out there at all?
1:44:32The idea of staying three or four more days is ridiculous because it's going to be bad for the board.
1:44:37Yes, it is.
1:44:37That's what's been by the way.
1:44:39We just can't do it.
1:44:41Probably with early winding afters and better storms.
1:44:45Every meeting probably only.
1:44:48Yeah.
1:44:48I try.
1:44:48No comment.
1:44:49We're coming on it.
1:44:50But it's funny.
1:44:50We had a good season with Donna.
1:44:52Yeah, but it didn't go well last time.
1:44:54I didn't even say anything.
1:44:56I didn't say anything from any sports.
1:45:01The quietness was early morning, followed by showers.
1:45:04Henry said he'd eat.
1:45:06He said that he'd already come off the beach once in a while today.
1:45:12I mean, he only did that after some of the wine.
1:45:16Well, I'm glad that you guys were thankful.
1:45:19Don't worry about it.
1:45:20It's your judgment, too, that if you can't, you know, you need to wait a week before you get your start to take your time.
1:45:26Well, I'm glad, but here we got this one here.
1:45:31Nobody's going to say, I didn't get any time off.
1:45:32You didn't get any time off.
1:45:34Well, what I had is I was there Saturday, Sunday.
1:45:35Yeah, but it didn't count.
1:45:36It was though that Kissinger came down Sunday.
1:45:37You met with him, and you met with Bundy, and all that.
1:45:39The picture ran all night yesterday.
1:45:41You didn't find any trip.
1:45:42I don't know if you can get a story out of that.
1:45:43No, you went to church on Sunday.
1:45:45Pretty good.
1:45:45I don't know if you can get a story out of that.
1:45:47Was there?
1:45:47Oh, yeah.
1:46:01It really was, because Huffman played it beautifully.
1:46:04He made it beautiful.
1:46:05Well, they said they changed his text to Blessed are the Peacemakers, and went through the night of the generation of peace, the reception by the people, the reception for the people, you know, almost any place you think the reception will be.
1:46:27I don't know what that means.
1:46:28But I think it was just right there.
1:46:30We got a nice reception at the airport.
1:46:32It was totally spot on.
1:46:33Man, that was a good hotel.
1:46:35That was a good flight.
1:46:36I didn't see anything on the hotel.
1:46:39I think that you got a very, very good flight.
1:46:41You wouldn't know on the airport.
1:46:44And I didn't see anything on the church.
1:46:47And that, funny thing, the Miami Herald, the 500th airport, there were at least, I don't know, at least four, three, four hotels.
1:46:59You can't get them.
1:47:00About 500 is a big crowd.
1:47:00They don't realize it.
1:47:01They don't scream as much as they think.
1:47:02That's right.
1:47:03Because people don't know the difference.
1:47:04Correct.
1:47:05500 is a lot.
1:47:05And they really don't.
1:47:06We look at that crowd and figure, people, as long as there's a crowd, as long as there's a picture of people that are going to be signing, that's where we'll get it or whatever.
1:47:15And as you've got that, I'm going to do this, so follow me now.
1:47:26I'm still doing that.
1:47:33I can't do that.
1:47:34Every morning, I can't go back to sleep.
1:47:42I started staying up late at night.
1:47:43That doesn't work.
1:47:44That doesn't work.
1:47:46Apparently, you just gotta wait.
1:47:48It just takes time.
1:47:57I think that Tom, I think, is in very good shape now.
1:47:59He happens to be alive.
1:47:59He seems to be.
1:48:00He's all right.
1:48:00He's fine.
1:48:01He's doing good.
1:48:27I don't know.
1:48:27He can't be there then.
1:48:28He won't be able to finish.
1:48:29Why didn't he finish the assignment?
1:48:30He had to add countries all over the place.
1:48:32It was a major foreign policy tour.
1:48:33And he said he was out of Timor in South America.
1:48:34We had to drop him.
1:48:35He didn't do it.
1:48:35That's great.
1:48:54What do you know about, uh, well, what you do, your posture, and uh, we've talked about that quite a bit over the weekend, and uh,
1:49:23No, he didn't.
1:49:23We talked politics.
1:49:24We talked politics, but he didn't talk about what I should do.
1:49:29He just...
1:49:30It's kind of interesting, because he has the same very strong feeling that Colson's got.
1:49:35I guess, to be clear, from the early stuff he decided not to try to work on until the 90s, but I know John feels the same way about it.
1:49:46No, I think John's backing up over the years, which is kind of interesting.
1:49:53economy with his brain.
1:49:55He says he's all for his leadership.
1:49:58He says the president has now sold the American people on his strength.
1:50:02He has sold them that he is not just an ordinary politician.
1:50:07He said that's something you could have hoped for but not really thought you'd accomplish, even with the momentum of these trips.
1:50:16But you have accomplished it.
1:50:19He said now, for God's sake, don't screw it up.
1:50:22The only thing that can go wrong now is if you guys make it go wrong.
1:50:26And I said, well, what do you think he ought to do during the month of June?
1:50:30We've got a period now, John.
1:50:32We've already decided we're going to lay low during the Democratic Convention period.
1:50:35He said, well, you sure as hell better.
1:50:38Correct.
1:50:39He said, let them eat each other up and make sure everybody sees everybody.
1:50:44Because you don't want to detract from that one bit.
1:50:48But then I said, well, we've got three weeks.
1:50:52Let's say this week is pretty much out.
1:50:54You just can't this week.
1:50:56Also, we ought to fix it.
1:50:58You've got to lay low.
1:51:00You've got to fix it.
1:51:02On your head, it's a minor scar.
1:51:05This, I don't think it's going to do this in the scenario, this is kind of a...
1:51:08It's kind of related to the dude I was talking to against the comic where you just hit the sharp edge.
1:51:14Yeah, the upright, you know, that metal piece of the window track.
1:51:16How did it happen?
1:51:16Did somebody push you against it?
1:51:18No, I was looking out the window, taking a movie as we were pulling out of the... And it drived out of the crowd, and the car in front of us stopped, and our car jammed on its brakes, and we hit the car in front of us, and it just shoved my head forward.
1:51:31It was pretty good.
1:51:32It was pretty good, yeah.
1:51:35I said we've got three weeks in June after this week before July, before we go to the Democratic Party.
1:51:42And what should we do then?
1:51:44Because there are a lot of options we could get out.
1:51:48We've got a lot of good opportunities and a lot of pressures to get out into the country.
1:51:55We've got a lot of things we can do here.
1:51:58We can make some big moves here, do some public events out of the White House and stir up a lot of activity.
1:52:07And he said, just absolutely don't do anything to create a big stir.
1:52:12Don't make any effort to get up front.
1:52:15What about the Janice Sapphire theory of momentum?
1:52:19He just got it off.
1:52:20He says, publicly, the President's posture should be that he is working very hard on foreign policy.
1:52:30Foreign policy.
1:52:31Ah.
1:52:31Not in events.
1:52:33He should be getting his treaties developed and worked through with Congress, and he should be shoring up and touching his foreign policy bases.
1:52:42Like the meeting with Ted, he said the meeting, he said my trip, this is exactly right.
1:52:46And he got the tie to that as well.
1:52:48He ought to have a lot of meetings with Kissinger, and there ought to be a lot of things going on.
1:52:53So you've got to get Bill Rogers' work in here, and there are things.
1:52:57Just keep the momentum going on foreign policy, publicly.
1:57:25But it's negative, and you should be identified with it as his view.
1:57:32And he said he should play a very low-key posture even as president.
1:57:35In other words, even in what he's doing in the White House.
1:57:38So he wouldn't have a big press conference?
1:57:40I wouldn't.
1:57:40I don't think he'd have any more press conferences.
1:57:43I'm almost convinced.
1:57:44Except in the office.
1:57:45I didn't ask him about the press conference specifically.
1:57:50Go ahead.
1:57:50Then he said it would be okay to do a couple of major conventions.
1:57:55And then he made a pitch for the Alliance International in Mexico City.
1:58:02He might have arrived there.
1:58:05But he said, Mike, you knew about the Rotary Convention.
1:58:09And then I mentioned the JC Convention.
1:58:11He said, well, a couple like that would be very good if he does it on a very presidential-type scale.
1:58:18And he should keep talking about his trip.
1:58:20Anytime he's not on that, he should be talking about Moscow and Peking.
1:58:24and all that.
1:58:25Although he should be thinking about the domestic issues and politics, but he shouldn't say anything about the domestic issues, and he should say absolutely nothing about politics.
1:58:35So that's his view.
1:58:37Now, Colston's view has become the same only more so.
1:58:44In fact, he said on the Schedule of Recommendations, the stuff we've been working on with the police, he said, I want automatically to be removed from endorsing any state of the event, because I don't believe the President should not do any public event.
1:58:59You know, didn't we sort of think this after Channel 2?
1:59:02Remember, we came back every month off the plane.
1:59:06Our whole image had changed.
1:59:10Yeah, but we didn't, we didn't bargain for that.
1:59:14And they, they aren't, at least so far, they haven't delivered or started something like that.
1:59:20I'm sorry that they had done it before we got back, before we got off the plane.
1:59:27Yeah, that's a great point.
1:59:28I agree with all the points.
1:59:30Now go ahead with Colson.
1:59:31Because we may be kidding ourselves, but Colson just feels that... Well, except in...
1:59:38I don't know why.
1:59:42But he won't give, he won't even okay a, you're going to have to put a little lead on him if you get the chance.
1:59:57He won't.
2:00:02He won't okay a Q&A or any speech inserts unsolved or anything.
2:00:06You know, we've got people who want to help us who are not.
2:00:10We can't give the material.
2:00:11I'll talk to him about it.
2:00:14I'll get him in today.
2:00:15His argument is, to our guys, is, you know, for Christ's sake, for once we've done something done right and we're in a perfect position.
2:00:23I don't know who you are.
2:00:25I'd like to screw it up.
2:00:28And, uh, to a degree you may be right, but we can't, there isn't going to be a void existing.
2:00:35And Henry can't carry the whole line of thought.
2:00:37Well, by then also, the Democrats would be off screwing around, talking about, you know, the whole, uh, two or three of them around here today.
2:00:45Where, uh, you read them on the paper, and now you've got the goddamn Washington Post in hand on it.
2:00:56He argues, for instance, that he should under no circumstances do the J.C. Convention.
2:01:26Because there's a lot of work.
2:01:30There's a lot of work preparing for it.
2:01:35There's a lot of effort and time spent going out there.
2:01:42But anyway, you have to get there, you have to go in, and you get a maximum of two minutes of COVID-19.
2:01:55And what good does this do, at this point in time?
2:02:00He doesn't think, he argues, for instance, that he should, under no circumstances, do the J.C. infection.
2:02:10Because, his plan is a lot of work.
2:02:14He already said it in the public.
2:02:17Let's face it, it's a lot of work preparing for it.
2:02:28But anyway, you have to get there, you have to go in, and you get a maximum of two minutes.
2:02:33And what good does this do at this point in time?
2:03:05He won't be able to come back.
2:03:07Well, he also argues that, sure, you can get agreement about a probation and all that, but is that a hell of a good picture of a bunch of, as he puts it, he'll look like the president standing there with his arms up before a bunch of screaming drunken J.C. And I argue, well, you don't have to be the president to play that game one of the number one.
2:03:27He doesn't have to go in there with his arms up in a convention and come in on a very cool kind of basis and still have a great job.
2:03:39You got out of the car.
2:03:40You played it so cool.
2:03:42You didn't go to those people.
2:03:43You stood there and walked back.
2:03:44And they then scourged their lines.
2:03:45And you went through very slowly.
2:03:46And it wasn't that you weren't eager to get to the pole.
2:03:49I guess you were responding to the pole.
2:03:51I guess you were responding to the pole.
2:04:23But he already countered to that very strongly that he's going to have a press conference.
2:04:25This is, he feels that's absolutely essential, that he's going to have a press conference.
2:05:15I think I'll do an office press conference before I do a big one.
2:05:17That's... Earth's view has modified as I read it.
2:05:18I agree.
2:05:43I think he's right, but I think you ought to identify him.
2:05:45You know what Tom thinks about the message?
2:05:47He should pick two or three where you're against what's going on.
2:05:51You know, he still thinks that he's sick.
2:05:52Everybody's against him.
2:05:54He's stabbing him.
2:05:54He may be right.
2:05:55But the way the governor went down last night...
2:07:53His whole pitch, in his quotes, is this thing, giving you the strength, even in that one quote, to give you just a general picture on things that, I mean, just so you don't have to get into being able to, you know, be as strong as you feel you should, get borrowed down in all these little things.
2:08:02The problem is there's something very, very inevitable in those things.
2:09:03and the state .
2:09:03But in the face of that sort of a chart, and on the past, they may have been able to offer all of the .
2:09:07But each is different.
2:09:33But they still want Reppel's house?
2:09:34Yeah, until John gets back.
2:09:34John brought it.
2:09:35Yeah, John's sweet because he'll be back on Thursday.
2:09:36Well, I shouldn't talk about it until then.
2:09:37Yeah, but it won't be confirmed until tomorrow, so you can't do anything about it.
2:09:39It'll have to be confirmed.
2:09:40Yeah.
2:10:03It'll probably be confirmed right after, but we'll have you two together, and I think we've got to have a joint ceremony.
2:10:11And not make the public bust out, but make it important, let it be covered by DP, and you've got to have the Chief Justice do it, if he will.
2:10:31Well, at least Angela Davis was around, so.
2:10:33In fact, that's just the trick.
2:10:35You just keep paying.
2:10:35Make your departments.
2:10:37And then Angela Davis saying, I believe you.
2:10:38Well, we must have had a lot of success.
2:10:40Apparently, well, what's that?
2:10:41That wasn't February.
2:10:42That was the state thing.
2:10:43I thought, I mean, we must have had a lot of success.
2:10:45They say that one of the jurors, nine of the jurors went to celebrate the celebration.
2:10:59Jesus Christ, they could have at least got it.
2:11:27It's out of the way.
2:11:28It's out of the way, incidentally.
2:11:31Hey, I'm covering right around his neck.
2:11:33She's already with him.
2:11:34Right.
2:11:34Absolutely.
2:11:34And that's going to make people very happy.
2:11:37And go ahead with her analysis.
2:11:38And part of the thing that we should do is use a lot of press coverage, too.
2:11:43Yeah.
2:11:43See what you do.
2:11:55In your case,
2:12:19that were apparent and just had an enormous impression.
2:12:25That's the helicopter and the plane flight that you're on about.
2:12:29And although they, as I said, the boycott of the Democrats kind of played, I don't think it helped them.
2:12:34They didn't get much, and what it got was
2:13:02count, maybe because they all feel that if you're best, that you come out best in that, that it's a better position for you than a speech, really, because there is a contest, and because it breaks the pattern, because a lot of speeches are color-coded.
2:13:33And it's a way to get on television.
2:14:06So that's about half of it.
2:15:23I can see the voices being harangued for four or five questions.
2:15:26I'm not sure.
2:15:27I think this is a lot of work.
2:16:18He didn't get into that specifically.
2:16:19He had that earlier.
2:16:19He likes to fix it back.
2:16:20That's what it was.
2:16:50No.
2:16:50I don't think so either, no.
2:17:33No, but I'm going to do an office with him next week.
2:17:35I'm waiting.
2:17:35Yeah, do an office with him next Wednesday.
2:17:37I'm going to wait a couple weeks and do a TV one.
2:17:38I've got to get it going in and just report it to him.
2:17:40And that's going to put you on the record one final time before the Democrats go in there.
2:17:43What are you doing?
2:18:08I'm inclined to be against the public in some way or other.
2:18:10I mean, you know, I realize it's a hell of a lot.
2:18:11Surely, I wouldn't do it without you.
2:18:12I think Rotter is better if you do want that.
2:18:39and the J.C. is the fact that you've got the preparations to approach this problem.
2:19:26I beg to speak to one small man.
2:20:07Okay, that's fine.
2:20:08I'm sure McGregor wouldn't have done it otherwise.
2:20:09This is basically how he has done it.
2:20:11He did one per person.
2:20:44He didn't want me, you know.
2:20:45And he said, I hate, I despise him.
2:20:47I'm sure he wouldn't want me to die.
2:21:08I have these feelings, I think there's, well, let's, let me say, the main thing I think about them is Texas, not Hillary.
2:21:16I think it's a good, non-political appearance of Texas, I think, at some point.
2:21:22Now, it being a Sunday evening, I don't think it is.
2:21:36And it won't be a good thing.
2:21:37It's like $50,000 in baseball.
2:22:18You've got to do a hell of a job in Texas.
2:22:20I don't know how many Texans there would be.
2:22:21I'd love to be in Texas.
2:22:22I'm big in the backwoods.
2:22:23Go to Houston and get a hell of a cover in Texas.
2:22:24Yeah.
2:22:24I don't know how many more of us are doing this ranching game.
2:22:48And he's all set.
2:22:48There's no question about it.
2:22:49He's locked.
2:22:49He's locked a lot tighter now than he was in the state of San Diego.
2:22:51He doesn't have to fight with Earl, and Schultz, and all that stuff.
2:22:53They're involved.
2:22:53But he could have a fight with him.
2:22:54He's happier now.
2:23:50uh...
2:25:08Camp David is cutting people to the maximum.
2:25:58I'm thinking about the after the centenarians.
2:26:29I think that's right.
2:26:30I think you get a hell of a lot of political clout by saying the president's got this captive group of JCs that he keeps running up to to have them cheering.
2:26:56Please decline to accept the answer, I'm sure.
2:27:25I'm turning down the National Association of County School
2:28:21It's not a good point.
2:28:46single or
2:29:34And, uh,
2:30:27And then we picked it up.
2:31:37Yes, sir.
2:31:38We got him.
2:33:36That's worth trying, I think.
2:33:36Which one do we use?
2:34:44Most of those people were unseemly.
2:34:46Don't make any bones about repeating the same thing.
2:35:15If I talk to these people in terms of the Soviet Union, for the first time, the President of the United States spoke to a hundred million Russians on television.
2:35:20A hundred million on television.
2:35:21That day, I had to say more.
2:35:22Maybe this time, I'll get the actual words.
2:36:34You can say 33 o'clock.
2:37:39I think you're doing well.
2:38:08You're doing Rotary.
2:38:37Not just J.C. J.C. is a political thing in its own way.
2:38:40I'm not going to be angry.
2:38:42I think it would be good to get a helper or something.
2:38:47That would actually be good.
2:38:49I agree with that a lot.
2:39:27that's all right it's a waste of time in one sense but it sets up the other one better
2:40:05What the hell are you doing?
2:41:21if you're involved.
2:43:19Our position has been that it's more important for us to have a career position.
2:43:48Well, he's got a problem.
2:43:49He's sure got a testify.
2:43:51He's got all these people hooking him.
2:43:54I left him here because I thought of him.
2:44:47Do they really think they're gonna have a boat come out here tomorrow?
2:44:51Yeah.
2:44:51That probably shows their appetite.
2:44:53Figure it's gonna be on Friday through this morning.
2:45:13The other question is whether you want to meet with the Executive Committee of the National Governing Council or not.
2:45:20I've got that.
2:45:21I'll fly in on Thursday.
2:45:22No, sir.
2:45:23No, sir.
2:45:23Good.
2:45:24I'll be sharing the call with everyone.
2:45:27They're supporting us.
2:45:28We don't want to, though.
2:45:30The first department that we ought to meet with is the county officials.
2:45:37The county officials.
2:45:39This is the National Governing Council's meeting.
2:45:43And the executive committee is going to fly out and meet with Senator Long and Senator Proctor to say more.
2:45:52The Vice President has suggested that you meet with him first to reassert your leadership in Long River Park Road.
2:46:17We're in a problem.
2:46:18We don't want them.
2:46:21That's why we want to do it.
2:46:25You know, Larry yesterday dropped the $3.5 to $5.5 million supplemental for Vietnam.
2:46:43and the $5 billion happens to fall inside the broken insurance 5-0.
2:47:21The other thing, I guess, you have to be the guy that's on this, you know, thing that he's asking people to be on this thing, and they need to be scared.
2:47:32What the hell is that?
2:47:34What would that all mean?
2:47:35That's a question of patient business.
2:47:38I'm really not familiar enough with that.
2:47:41I think early we handle that.
2:47:42I think early is that I want to say it, a step away from it, and put it that way to God.
2:48:20Do you want to meet with the leader of the VO guerrilla forces and allow us to meet with your general back and forth?
2:48:25No.
2:48:25This will be a show of objective support for those fighting on the American side.
2:48:30This will be your first meeting.
2:48:31No.
2:48:31The Saudi Defense Minister, are you going to meet with him?
2:48:35No.
2:48:54This comes from a friend who is very helpful.
2:49:22Well, Keith, I don't want to hurt their problem.
2:49:24If I'm going to do a press conference, I don't want to screw it back down.
2:49:28I'll be here June 30th, 2015, and he's traveling in the U.S. from the 16th through the 23rd.
2:50:31Robert really stuck with that in any major country.
2:50:34If they come on so-called state visits, I understand that's a threat to us, but if they come on unofficial visits, you know, then it should be done.
2:50:43And that's the rule.
2:50:44And we've been through that.
2:51:46What's your opinion about that TV anchorman thing?
2:52:17Alright, let's restate over here.
2:53:04Last week.
2:53:04Yeah.
2:53:05By that time, of course, you've got to realize .
2:53:07But I suppose that would be up there.
2:53:09I know.
2:53:09It would be .
2:53:42Yeah, that's .
2:53:46That's not .
2:54:20I'm sorry to do that.
2:54:22You'll be for Henry to testify on the song.
2:54:26I'll see that the alternative to that is to get someone else ready.
2:54:31Someone got to.
2:55:08Ray's got another question.
2:55:12He's probably not a good idea.
2:55:15He's got two minutes.
2:55:17He's got a pretty hard series.
2:55:20He's also got one.
2:55:22He's offering a sign.
2:55:23Okay.
2:55:40You don't do a great job.
2:56:23Well, if we wanted to make it so, we would make it ourselves.
2:57:07He just won't let anybody say anything about this whole thing.
2:57:38Henry's people have been working on it, thoroughly worked out through his office, but Henry has not himself.
2:58:31We're up since right when we wanted it.
2:58:32We delayed it a couple of times.
2:59:01So, yeah.
2:59:35About what time?
2:59:36About 2.30.
2:59:36All right.
2:59:362.30 is fine.
2:59:36All right.
2:59:36Oh, look, there's only one thing that we'll have to get through to take a quick look at.
3:00:08Frank, Frank, along with you and you and I, if you've got any questions, schedule a reserve.
3:00:15We'll come out of the heat from Sunday, which is not a bad time.
3:00:21And if there's good business, right on.
3:00:24Sure.
3:00:24All right, 2.30, just fine.
3:00:25Fine, bye.
3:01:23I think that's what I meant during his followers.
3:01:57I've had a report today, it looks like it is.
3:01:58What's that man?
3:01:59Harris.
3:02:20What I want done here actually bothers this individual.
3:02:22Whoever goes with me takes a second hearing.
3:02:23For them, it's not for me.
3:02:24That would be great.
3:02:25And if I were them, I'd say, well, take a second hearing and take a second hearing.
3:02:27I'm a lawyer.
3:02:28I'm a lawyer.
3:02:28I don't need any money.
3:02:29I know what's in my head.
3:02:43But I don't know, somebody might have died, or I might have done something, you know.
3:02:45Your point of having someone is essential.
3:02:46Well, I should balance this in case somebody's in the way.
3:02:47No, we haven't before, but that's what we intend.
3:03:09I don't think he came up, I think it was just he was concerned that a fight was raising the point of whether, I think it was something, I didn't see it, but he, he has in the past, which is, you know, he's been doing the secretary for maybe, I don't know, two or five, he's down by eight on the ad, but, you know, I don't think he's done any of that stuff.
3:03:25Well, he's already done it.
3:03:27Yeah, he's already done it.
3:03:48Yeah.
3:04:21I think that's her problem, yeah.
3:14:55Did you ever check on that, uh, fellow at, uh, Hagerstown?
3:14:58Sure.
3:14:58Yeah, we were right here.
3:14:59Are we?
3:15:00Just, just go.
3:15:00I think what we need to really work on is, let me, really work on this, uh,
3:15:38Yes, sir.
3:15:38Well, no question the photographer said that.
3:15:41He's saying that was a big day.
3:15:42I mean, well, I didn't think that was a big day.
3:15:44I wasn't in such a place for a day.
3:15:44But we were in a number of just marvelous shots.
3:16:10That's right.
3:16:41to be expendable there.
3:16:42Yeah, really, I wouldn't say that.
3:17:28I hope you have a great day.
3:31:52Okay, I'll plan to leave here at 2.30 today.
3:31:53You don't know, the weather is going to be easier than I thought it would be today.
3:31:55I've checked up there today, just to watch this today, but it was supposed to be cloudy for a while, and it's very hard.

Nixon, Haldeman & Ehrlichman on Public Relations and Foreign Policy

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