On June 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:51 am to 10:20 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 341-017 of the White House Tapes.
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It's a breed.
It's true.
It's true.
The Hollywood of high income, too, is a super liberal.
The pornographic salesman is a super liberal.
The Xerox is a super liberal.
Jesus Christ.
That's the part of the branch, but you're ranked above.
The Orthodox Jew is a traditionalist person.
That's what you're really talking about in this country.
You're a traditionalist person from Israel.
The old school really falls more into the category of the hardline Catholic.
That's the way the country is breaking down.
There's a common denominator here.
People who just believe in preserving the traditions of establishment.
One person.
Scam of large.
No scam of scum.
Scum of large.
It looks Irish, acts Irish, but it's not.
It's not like that.
It's the old way.
Writing out of his mind, I did not have anything to say.
Oh, you didn't?
Well, I don't agree with that.
No, I didn't have anything to say.
Well, if we'd gotten another clip, we'd have to write it right down.
Well, if you always have something to say, if you talk about moving the world one step closer to peace, one step further away from the danger of simply war, the media will carry that.
And not worry about my men, and not worry about the fuckways, the bulls, and the bad cops, and let it go.
They say I'm not going in, and that's just all right, too.
You've got to realize I've been around an awful long time.
I mean, I've had enormous exposure.
That's why I say, as far as exposure is concerned, this would be the 67th year.
I mean, sure, it doesn't last a month, but it leaves, it always leaves a few
Stay with you.
It does, doesn't it?
Try to love some.
Just love some.
May it love some.
May it love you a lot.
May it love you a great deal.
I still will love it most.
First of all that because it is very substantive and very hopeful.
The sense of good.
Great Christ, please.
Great Christ.
Thank you.
Hello.
Hello.
Are you here or at home?
Oh, fine.
Well, no hurry, but I was just reading over the U.S. news thing, and I thought if you could come over, I would have much to say.
All right, take your time.
Hello.
Hold on, I can hear you.
Yeah, I got a real...
In fact, today I was going to stay up late.
How old are you?
I think I'm close.
Come on, let's go.
I think that the line with regard to what I call the isolation is very, very interesting.
We've come down to a stem and we've been talking for a number of years.
It's a great tradition of the old isolations.
Lafolle, Nye, Wheeler, etc.
He really faced me hard as a withdrawal and as an isolationist.
And I was thinking that the line that you want to put in practice is that you can't be in the same paragraph before my brother went.
At the bottom of page 10, the word ballet, to me, has a rather nice connotation.
If you may remember how to do it, and the depths of the ballet or something, I wonder if we could return quickly to the
If you want to, we've got to have a summit, we've got to have a summit, but we're going to have to meet in the valley or something.
A small change in page 11, that you may not feel is what I'm going to do, but I kind of like to get away from the I.
There is much that I can and much of it is to live with.
They also mentioned that the project was done with personal intervention from me, so it would be more correct for me.
I think Ray, the line
and I know that this is sort of happening on page 14, that in this competition, the runaways with their arms, our choice really is either to live in arms or to have a race.
And this is a race in which there will be no winners, no one to lose, no one to win.
all the civilization groups.
I'd like to get that in.
Probably the last of that, I realize we have to put the second one on the rest, but I think that that's really what's brought about, the Soviet reaction.
They want to be first, we want to be first.
The part is, we both realize that if we just go along and move your arm trace, that
They'll get ahead when we're ahead, for example, on MIRV.
So they go ahead.
And when you've got two powers who are relatively equal, I mean, we're far ahead, honestly.
But they have a great advantage in being able to do that.
We're now in a situation where we're in a race that neither side will run over.
Neither can, neither will I.
A little on that, we can just work it out now, however you want.
I think with page 19, perhaps, for instance, the third paragraph will continue to be required for some time to come.
I think we should just say we're pursuing a future that I'm really more precise in.
As you know and I know, it's going to have to be forever.
I know we don't want to say that.
It is.
The word, at the bottom of the page, we have a lot of issues.
Barber, filet, precious French.
I think I like the filets, but there's packages there.
Barber, filet, not old French.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The Vietnam section is extremely good.
It needs one thing, however, very much so.
When we hear the reasons for these actions, you would have put, of course, the fundamental reasons.
But we had to put in there that it was necessary to protect our community forces in the name of the United States.
It may be that that might be the first thing that has to remain important to you.
By the sake of the people.
To the average American, also bear in mind the fact that McEverett and the likes of candidate for Amherst and all the rest, we have to constantly say, by and large, we're not going to leave our main forces.
That's all that is.
It's a very long piece.
Oh, on 31, on the development of nations, I wrote down at the bottom of my page here, that I don't want to, I have no work, I have to turn this up and improve it.
Correct.
And you got it at this point by a very strong recommendation.
Thank you.
Oh, I think in terms of our, on page 40, when we speak of pride, I think, Ray, that we hear these people constantly jab the United States for its role in the world of war and hostility.
I think that the paragraph on page 40, the fact that we do not claim perfection in the world of war, in the world of war,
Well, we did not see them.
I mean, as Andrew Monroe said, the United States is the first great world power.
They did not see power.
You know, and Americans would.
But, and we do not, we have not been in this race, but Americans can be proud of our record.
Young Americans have won four awards.
And not for conquest, not for territory, but for the right of other people to be here.
Or to have their independence, or maybe not just for a dream, but the right of other people to be here.
I think just a little bit that we need to
Our goal is not to...
Our goal has not been conquest, our goal has not been territory.
Our goal has been a more peaceful world where aggression does not succeed.
We want a chance for all people of the world, all nations, large and small, to have the right to live in dependency.
I think it certainly reads extremely well.
It kind of reminds us of a tortured effort, which is a delegate.
Historically, it was extremely good.
Well, I remember the 6th and 7th are guilty.
I mean, as little as we knew them, you know, as little help as we had, my God, we didn't have the NFC staff, the State Department staff, and all that sort of thing.
It's really, you know, the fact that we're here to go back to that China section is extremely valuable.
But this also is a responsibility.
You never know how it will be
That's about as much as you expect them to do.
They're going to read a book.
They're never going to get enough.
They're never going to get enough.
You know, that's why I say it's a little important to get the people who are the kids.
But I know damn well that none of those guys, well, there's a very few exceptions.
It's only a couple of other people.
A couple of other people.
Foreign policy experts might just sit down and allow for all that stuff, you know.
And, you know,
Excellent, excellent phrase.
When you get it finished, be sure to tell Colson, that crowd over there, that I want them to read through, and to pick out.
They put a sheet on top of it to send to all of our speakers, and saying, you know, we'll do this, we'll do that, we'll do that, and that's what the average guy needs, basically, is a way to sort of make speech.
It's truly useful.