{"conversationCode":"341-042","tapeNumber":341,"conversationNumber":42,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-341-042","startDateTime":"1972-06-11T19:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-11T21:08:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jun-1972","startTime":"3:22 PM","endDate":"11-Jun-1972","endTime":"5:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On June 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:22 pm and 5:08 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     John Cardinal Krol\n          -The President's telephone call\n          -Support for President\n          -The President’s trip to Poland\n                -Polish people\n          -The President’s previous trip to the Soviet Union\n          -Possible visit to Washington, DC\n                -Meeting with the President\n                -Meeting with Charles W. Colson","filename":["341-042-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:58:08","tapeEnd":"06:01:39","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"341-041","nextCode":"342-001","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discussed scheduling and protocol for an upcoming event, including the departure of key figures after a swearing-in ceremony and the arrangement of a receiving line. They also touched upon a request from John Cardinal Krol regarding support and potential visits, and the President's desire to meet with Clyde Tolson and Miss Gandy. Additionally, the conversation covered the potential meeting with Ambassador Diem and Senator [unintelligible], with Nixon emphasizing the need for Henry Kissinger's presence.","topics":["event scheduling","protocol","receiving line","Cardinal Krol","Clyde Tolson","Ambassador Diem","Senator [unintelligible]","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:58:54.380Z"},"topicSlugs":["event-scheduling","protocol","receiving-line","cardinal-krol","clyde-tolson","ambassador-diem","senator-unintelligible","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":214,"audioFiles":[{"file":"341-042-splice.mp3","bytes":3416526,"durationSec":214,"bitrate":127723,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T08:05:04.546Z","originalFilename":["341a.mp3","341b.mp3","341c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["341b.mp3"],"cutStart":11438.5,"cutEnd":11652.5,"adjustedStart":11438.5,"adjustedEnd":11652.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-10-27T08:05:04.546Z"},"transcript":[{"start":11483.5,"end":11490.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"where uh the swearing in ceremony will still be in 11:15."},{"start":11490.5,"end":11494.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"The Chief Justice [unintelligible]"},{"start":11494.5,"end":11509.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"After that, the the- the brie- the uh greeting of the people. The idea would be for you and Mrs. Nixon, and the Chief Justice, and Helen to all announce they had to leave after swearing in one at a time."},{"start":11509.5,"end":11522.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Leave the three of them uh and you leave on the order of [unintelligible]"},{"start":11522.5,"end":11532.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Then the idea would be that that you leave, and let them set up The three of them set up the receiving line then and uh and receive the guests and all. The Russian people that are there will probably leave when you do because uh they open at noon."},{"start":11532.5,"end":11541.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"It would seem to me you'd be just uh-"},{"start":11541.5,"end":11545.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"I think you're involved, I agree."},{"start":11545.5,"end":11547.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"I can stay around."},{"start":11547.5,"end":11554.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"You know more than anybody. You think it- Well, you think it might sort of urge other troops to leave like you're going to [unintelligible] I think you need"},{"start":11554.5,"end":11559.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"the people who are there they are just the-"},{"start":11559.5,"end":11581.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"You had said, I don't know whether you want to follow up on it or not, that uh we were a team of if you wanted to see uh Clyde Tolson and Miss Gandy for a few minutes in your office and sign that. Don't think you wanted to do that."},{"start":11581.5,"end":11583.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yes, I would."},{"start":11583.5,"end":11592.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"On that, they could do this there. Sure, it could be Miss Gandy and her husband. I have the word [unintelligible]"},{"start":11592.5,"end":11602.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Also, Henry's asked if you would see Ambassador Diem. He's returning to Vietnam. He always have to do that."},{"start":11602.5,"end":11605.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, I have to, he's- He wants to know if he can go back to Vietnam."},{"start":11605.5,"end":11606.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Yeah."},{"start":11606.5,"end":11610.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"All right, we can train a sign off."},{"start":11610.5,"end":11619.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Bringing into the story briefly this Don Rogers is over, a sulking time for you to uh have an interview and uh get a picture."},{"start":11619.5,"end":11622.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"I have just armed with three."},{"start":11622.5,"end":11628.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"I can do some of that tomorrow night, maybe later on."},{"start":11628.5,"end":11631.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Tomorrow, tomorrow night."},{"start":11631.5,"end":11636.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Oh, the afternoon, uh from about 2:30 on."},{"start":11636.5,"end":11643.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Sen. He's suggested that you see them."},{"start":11643.5,"end":11647.5,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"It's also essential that I have Henry with me to see Sen."},{"start":11647.5,"end":11650.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"Well, that's what I wondered. Because"},{"start":11650.5,"end":11652.5,"speaker":"Haldeman","text":"we can wait for Henry. I ask him to see Sen."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":21488,"end":21699,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"audio-llm","transcriptCreatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:47:29.044Z","transcriptModel":"google/gemini-3.8-flash","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/341-042-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/341-042","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/341/conversation-341-042","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}