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I was wondering how you were, whether you'd been able to be in contact with your Kennedy friends.

Yes, sir, I was.

The answer that they gave me is that he's not interested in money.

That Mills was on a property design, not on the same degree.

I feel like they had it,

The one thing I would say on that story,

Because there are some government delinquents

the way it's figured now it seems to me that on the second ballot you get it or at the end of the first ballot.

I don't see him stopping now.

I checked with two people.

I checked with probably Mr. Gerald's partner.

That would be better.

I don't know.

Yes, sir.

That was a bullet.

Now, that bullet, I don't want you to know it, but it's a perfect case in point.

You see that these people are, they're wild.

They're wild.

I mean, you've got a, you've got a, the Massachusetts delegation, their brother-in-law, who is not a candidate.

You've got Jerry Grosman, who's going to work for the Democratic National Committee for Massachusetts.

He hates that guy.

He hates him.

He does.

Yes, sir.

And it's all over the place.

And he's just, you know, he doesn't even have his own, he doesn't even have his own state government.

Now, that doesn't say that he's not excited that he doesn't get up to support Gates nationally.

You know, he could overwhelm him.

But not if he's a part of the concept.

You know, if Kennedy wanted that, the only way that he could get it right now is if the government went to a blood fight and Mills and Wallace and Humphrey and Muskie Hall

ganged up against him on the uncommitteds, and then, you know, on the fifth ballot, and he came out on the white horse, on the assumption he wanted him to do that.

But he could never be a part of it.

In fact, I believe that he forced him.

Sometime in the next three weeks, or in the next month or so.

Or he'd come so close to endorsing that he can't be accused of struggling with it.

In fact, the time he might do it is this weekend, if they were to deal with it.

I think that's on for some of you.

He'll show up with his arm around the governor.

He can't afford not to.

I've gone to two people in college.

Oh, yes.

Well, we're working a lot.

I'll watch it.

The thing about the Kennedy that you have to remember is that the devious is helping the children.

But the two people that I've met, the best of those, you know, three people really.

One has never been wrong.

I told him today, I said, you know, we'll take him on a date.

And he has promised to report to me after this meeting.

For a lot of reasons, I don't believe that he put his head in a personal matter.

He's a good liberal Democrat, but he owes me something.

He promised to report after the crime.

But he's caught up.

It isn't fair that a candidate now who's believed to come off the cell, the Kennedy cell, that he can't be anywhere, exposed to the crime cell.

Uh, second point, uh, if you, uh, I hope your hikers are dying in one way or another, you should have, uh, hopefully, this will help the veterans, too, or, you know, the way that, uh, that the government is talking about going to Hanoi and so forth, and the way Hanoi is saying that they have

Let me tell you something.

I should probably guess that there's a little bit more going on on the Vietnam.

How much is going on and what's going to resolve it?

I'm not sure.

Now, in the last conversation, I had a question.

There were no sentences today.

Maybe I'm the only person who knows.

But I had about a three-hour conversation with my colleagues.

He said, at the end of it, he got up and he told me in the front, he said, Michael, he said, what a burden it was.

but the government will be going to Illinois.

Secretly, this weekend, we're going to go to the Supreme Court on Saturday, and we'll be back in Washington on Sunday.

They will announce action, because we can't do that.

That's just, we know, most of the government people know that our people need to do their part by themselves, and we know that we will urge them to.

In other words, how much she can accomplish, we don't know.

But it is what it is.

We're trying to get her out of there.

Now,

As Henry points out, and of course in my life,

I don't want to show children what we're doing.

Not a bet.

We don't want to indicate any softness, whatever, in the situation at the time.

We don't want to give a goddamn answer to those guys today.

I see we don't have any other proposals on that before.

We just don't want it.

This is no time to do it.

You see?

Exactly right.

The mining is successful.

The bombing is successful.

But with an argument means a message is running out of steam.

And while it is clear, yeah, the power plant is taken out of the meeting.

The amazing thing is, I feel bad this morning.

Three months ago, the U.S. government used to have to take that power plant out of the U.S. White power plant in this country, and it's like, everybody just sort of said, well, good, there goes the power plant.

The attitudes in this country have changed.

If you look at that Anglopitch survey, voter attitudes on the war, they've come to a conclusion.

We will announce probably before the end of the month that we will go back

We're trying to set it so we can go back on the 13th.

And we can get the ducks in a row, whether it's low or not, we don't know.

When we get the ducks in a row, we'll see.

We'll be back negotiating on the 13th.

And also before,

and so forth and so on.

People were thinking, well, what the hell?

We didn't do anything to them.

Well, they may have probably tried to reassure them, but anybody who tried to tell them very well, we probably did not.

I noticed that's why I had to spread a target reference to it on a return date.

See, our whole thing has got to be, we've just got to play it now.

And then I will, the way I want to do it, of course, is the week before Congress adjourns.

That's when I want to be on that job all day.

And I will, I'll be on the 7th, no, on the 8th.

I went to that meeting.

And then, if I can work it out, clear away something for the next week, yeah.

I think the main emphasis probably will be on the foreign area.

And then I will be, I think I will be very strong on that point.

We, these bastards, you know, our ambassadors, they have time and time again, they have spoiled what appears to be promising negotiating initiatives.

I already gave the chapter, it's one of the most disgraceful stories in the history of American politics.

It is, and there have been times when I've told that to a friend of mine, where he'd meet me, and I'll probably not put this thing up there.

He went right ahead and said, well, this has been the worst one of the stuff, and he was putting that up again.

We want to play this.

In other words, we have some other conditions, right?

In case you don't believe me, everybody was fine.

Even though he comes back and says that Vietnam was not discussed.

We don't know goddamn well what was.

Right?

Absolutely.

And the situation, too, is kind of the same.

The way we're going to, the way we're going to program the week here is the prayer call out.

We're going to put a picture on in the east room for the two fire services committees.

The only man who knows how to handle the arms control issue is him.

See, Rogers is, frankly, knowledgeable on all sorts of stuff.

He just doesn't know what I'm talking about.

questions for three hours.

I said, now three hours, and it will be all on the record.

On the record, they can put it in their records.

And Henry is, Henry will, of course, make the whole big statement.

But he knows very much what I will have left to go over and welcome the next president.

That will mean that we will get first, not only the arms thing,

We did this whole thing for my own good.

I was just taking a long time for my own good.

We wrote the impasse ourselves, and that's it.

So that's the way that will go.

There, you rejected the idea of having me.

Cameron, please speak.

Go ahead.

It's a fire hole for the noose.

Yeah, thinking of even news, you know, otherwise all you can do is put up reactions.

In other words, they would have Scott as Jackson, or Holt as Jackson, or Scott as Scott.

The picture, they won't have any cameras at all.

They'll look at the discussions they can have.

And for a story that big, they will have to block out just routine.

Two or three nights a week, maybe four.

Without them there, they wouldn't want to fight.

They'd put a camera on the president, not a camera on us.

And then he doesn't put it in the president's dressing room like that.

A cool camera could move into it.

A cool camera could come in and check something.

If we could do it in a rather low-key way, that would be all right.

I agree that that would be good if I could go on for 10 minutes and explain it.

The only thing I always, I need to give the networks a major story without depriving them of it.

Because what they do always, that's a, that's a wide open invitation to them to go get the critics.

And then what they say is, President Nixon and Henry Dispute briefed the days of three hours following the briefing.

And a few of them said, so and so said this man, you know.

And they get those guys on the line and say, and I'm always scared of this man.

Well, I did do a minute today, a minute and a half or, you know.

They're going to carry that.

They are playing very strong.

That's it.

Anyhow, I thought I'd just say that you may have a point there.

I think the idea of bringing in the pieces is more of a presidential thing.

Well, I agree with you.

It's all over.

So you get it.

My remarks, in fact, my remarks, even a camera, Mr. President, if you want me to enter the room and shake hands, I'm going to take that.

Anything.

I'll tell you what we can do.

We can do that.

We can allow, because of the historic nature of the education system, we can allow a, that's the only invention, that's not bad.

Well, that gets you 30 seconds, and 45, and you coming in and shaking hands, stopping, as you're going up, getting the whole room in the scene.

It's a very dramatic scene.

I'd love to have a chance, because I'd like to be here.

It's a very dramatic scene.

I'm here as a congressman.

I'd like to have that.

So, let it go.

Sure.

I'd like to ask you, you know, the footage last time, you were standing around that room, and you should have allowed it to...

The other thing I wanted to mention, I'm sure it's a good review, is that you've got to make the virtues out of your necessities.

Listen, listen, listen.

We now have...

But in any event, I told him, whenever he does either that or the other, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul, I told Paul,

Well, the Jews aren't going to be.

Goddamn, the Jews are the most intriguing clubs of all.

The Hillcrest Country Club of Los Angeles, I played there.

but any of them.

But don't you think that those are the, but I think getting Kleinbees down the road, but also, I know this is doing, for example, the Federal Bar Association in all places in Boston.

Well, that's going to help us.

Kleinbees should not get bogged down in basically bar associations.

He might use bar associations as formats.

But my view is he ought to be in Detroit and on the bus, for example.

He ought to go out there and hit UNA and hit buses right on the ass

Ohio, he always wanted Pittsburgh.

Remember the ones that aren't involved.

We talked to you very briefly, and let him go right in there.

I mean, I think Climby's going to be our big blessing for him.

He's going to be very effective.

And tomorrow, you know, we've got to have a drumbeat on this higher education.

Under that bill, I don't know where I said that message was on.

I don't know.

I'm not sure it's you.

In his first prayers and in his first number of prayers, he should be programmed to say that that's a totally inadequate thing.

We need the more appropriate, you know what I mean?

His saying is enough to do it.

But I'm going to say it also.

I'm going to say it also.

You have to be able to keep

Dick would be very helpful to the president.

But I blew up at him.

I can't speak on the federal virus situation.

He shouldn't have had anything to do with it.

That's government police.

It's useless.

In Boston.

Why didn't he go?

Because he took the presidency at the same time.

And now he feels obliged to go tomorrow.

Well, what's one meeting?

One meeting.

Dick is Dick.

But it's like Agnew not doing the acting.

You see, we could get...

We can get on a bus in a position across, Chuck, but we've just got to repeat it.

For example, it's all been explained up there, and when I'm in a train, the bus is being given editorial fees and all the rest.

That is completed to do it.

You've got to do it in colorized things.

Our people all tend to be too complicated.

Too damn complicated.

The virtue of a guy like Bill Simon is that he's a great cracking man.

Asked about the I.P.T.

doing the Citus Exchange.

Yeah, there we go.

That's right.

You have to get to, at a certain level, you have to get to very simple terms for people to understand.

Remind you of that famous old joke that I can't recall the whole thing, you know, about the guy who has to be an imposter and not the best in all the questions.

They asked him, what do you do about the I.P.T.?

He said, well, I do a lot of building work.

he said, what do you think about the, what do you think about the, that is, we ought to pay him.

He says, what do you think about food tax?

He says, we ought to bomb it.

And anyway, it's a much better story, you know, it's not good.

We ought to bomb it.

But anyway, that's that.

They, I don't know how, don't know whatever they know, that I do think, though, that we've really got to pay him.

And now, with regard to this enemy business, he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy now, John.

There's no question about it.

I don't know who can do it.

I don't know.

A good guy.

They say he's Geller.

Geller Gunners.

Uncle Geller is from South Dakota, which makes a good advocate.

And he is prepared to send a letter if we need it.

We're here to organize the committee fast enough to get a couple hundred thousand dollars in.

We're here to organize a concerned veterans committee.

700,000 BMWs.

I've talked already twice about this.

We are only the way of this.

We have a mechanical company.

We don't have that much money on the committee under the new statutes.

He is prepared to do several things.

He's prepared, because I suppose you can mark cash on this.

Is cash available now?

I don't know a lot.

But in terms of that, this person gets an investigation out of this, and he has to answer cash.

We'll have to mail him.

It's just a question of how much they have to do it.

I really think that kind of mail is what I really think.

He's got to break into the public frame, into the public conference.

I mean, a Democratic senator or congressman.

They're not going to even take a look at her.

I'm pretty good on that prisoner aspect.

I'm not a prisoner of anything.

But this is about Hanoi.

He is Hanoi's candidate.

Hanoi's candidate.

Jay Rosemond told me this morning that Al Barkin has grabbed this senator.

Barkin?

Well, yes.

And I thought to myself, Jay.

Jay Rosemond told me before I had seen him in person.

I'd seen him in the water.

And, uh,

Jay said it's going out today.

He's been questioning it all over the country.

I agree that any sort of opinion on it is good if we can do it.

But remember, he's a candidate.

He's angry.

And our candidate is awfully rough.

It can't be by a Republican.

And that's the thing.

You can't just strike persecution and arrest them.

God damn it, it's true.

It can be by some of them.

Go ahead.

Without me, it's you can't do it.

No, sir.

Oh, Mitchell can't do it.

I'm angry.

bench, and it was agonizing, and it was weak, and it was dull, and it was dull candy.

But, you know, a very good cake and dough, and a little cold water kind of thing, and people were listening.

Well, it makes a little bit of a person.

But, I come back again to, you know, a million seven hundred thousand dollars to people who are all concerned with this issue.

It says three things, and that's all that we know about this issue.

One, this man's famous, and then all of this is.

Two, he supports the enemy's position, and that's a surrender.

Three, the faith of the General Amnesty Congress that he's hand-preserved.

That's the way to talk.

A little speech like that, made around, should say, now we cannot have, and then we should say, the United States cannot afford to have this man as president.

That's, American people cannot afford him a government president.

You see, I am a great believer in the

targeted, you know, I think it's almost more effective than if you made your right.

Well, because you go to people and when they really mean something, they take that and they talk about it, and they get upset about it, and send it to their friends, and write letters.

If you get the right extension of a letter like that, it's just devastating.

And those are three very simple points.

Now we have a person who can quote

that little story that didn't bother her on the radio jesus christ i told you what the press was doing again she mentioned that the closet was the shop that the president

That's a big story.

Here he is saying, I ain't going to move, boys.

That's the biggest political story that you could expect to come out of this week.

We've got one week of media grumpy pushing the senator.

He yesterday gave his statement of conscience.

I don't know where he's at.

He gave it in New York.

He was starting to prepare for it.

He had an elderly Jewish husband, and he got heckled.

But even the New York Times, to carry a lengthy article like that, that wasn't even there.

It's amazing.

I owe you an apology.

I told you we had to take a declaration.

Well, I don't owe you an apology.

Well, it's all of his job.

No, you know, I got a memo here that I sent over to that guy who plays across the street.

He was jamming with the colleagues.

He started taking everything he must be saying.

And I talked to him a few weeks ago, and he said, we're taking everything.

Audio, we're using video.

We can't get it on TV.

And they weren't.

They were just doing a couple of telephones.

Particularly when we now saw that the government might go and nominate him.

Well, anyway, they've got it now.

They've got it covered, haven't they?

Well, they said so.

We've got it.

We're going to start it.

Just like this.

I forgot to look up the project on the station.

Locked on.

They haven't even been using it.

We haven't even been on the station.

And it's just, oh, no.

I really didn't tell them that they missed it.

Actually, it was just started.

So we, we have to do it.

That's right.

I don't know if it was just air or some sort of rock.

I took on that, but I ran for the Congress.

I never had any labor support.

It's just a little country.

We don't have a question.

But we told them to do it last fall.

Yesterday, we discovered that it was a woman's doctor.

I do like that.

This thing is another one.

We didn't bother him with that.

He was just gonna have to, every day that he started checking on something, asking for something.

Instead of taking it word for it, we tried to do it.

We just started asking for samples of what they produced.

I don't know any other way to do it.

When you don't really see Chuck at this point, you think it's not going to be good.

Or that Jay loves something, they just don't.

Because they wanted Al Bargain to be part of Bargain.

Well, Bargain wants to elect hundreds of senators, and he's scared to death he's scared.

And he's a breakthrough for the whole thing.

But what I mean, Bargain's major job, I always used to elect Democrats in the House and Senate.

Yes, he was running the whole field, I've read this.

I mean, you and I both know that coal is most effective in that area rather than on the presidency.

And Andy Leibovitz knows that the mood of this country is- Does Andy know it?

No, he knows the mood of this country.

Yeah, he's a pragmatic politician.

He knows that the mood of this country is that we're going to have Congress somewhere that was conservative.

They ought to watch out for that.

That's right.

I try to, you know, I pass the word back to them, Richard Nixon is not a bad leader.

Goddamn right he's not.

You guys made it all a lot better off not to.

The government's not made it to.

It's getting in.

In fact, you know, we've got now over 200,000 labels that just might, might hold us back.

I don't know.

It's not surprising that the label is such a turn.

They are, and this book, you know, if I were labeled as a Democrat, I would think that you're going to be re-elected.

At this point, I want to be on the opposite view.

And if McGowan is the nominee, he would be carried in a 48-7, a 48-8 state.

There are a hell of a lot of Democrats in that state.

So to take a swanker, a swanker in Pennsylvania, he said, if McGowan is the nominee, we will swing three key congressional districts in the Pennsylvania Republicans.

It's good to have people of that sort.

And people like Janet saying things, you know, that's, we know what those people are.

They just have hearts all over them.

And they are, that's a, I'm sure, I'm sure you guys see it, but I don't think it really is.

I guess he said, I would want to be a congressman right when I got to take over that.

And I've talked to Jack Corbett who runs the rest of the campaign.

He's getting all of the candidates around the country to nail the Democratic Republicans.

And they just wouldn't go.

Hawkins is the man you have confidence in.

He's good.

He's a team, if I can remember, a team.

It wasn't a crippled arm.

No.

He's running here.

You know, there's been a tragedy with Jerry Ford because of the old club thing.

We'll not drop off Wilson.

Wilson, you know, he just had it.

He was always a pleasant guy.

He wasn't a guy anymore.

Boo great?

Booze?

Is it booze?

Pretty much.

Oh, God.

I don't mind the gals, and I don't mind the soft little, or even the booze.

If a guy pays attention to business, if he can't handle booze, take a person, he can handle booze.

Tucker Johnson, excuse me, I guess, in reserves insurance, I would put Tucker in that position.

We're in a lot of pain.

How the hell do they do it?

Basically, they get so used to it.

You let them just come started with alcohol.

There's no way about that.

Is that possible?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's because of the high tension.

It's just a fatigue.

Well, this thing here, across the street and so forth, my God, it was good to have this little thing.

Sure called it a little.

I've seen men kept reassuring me that that group over there, you know, is a group of a bunch of good men.

They may be just a little goddamn sod, and they may need to listen.

I almost think that maybe, in a moment, we can't spare him.

They call him out of his head and go away, and he leaves back to you directly.

You need a tough, ruthless guy to run a campaign, Chuck.

You can't think of a way to get rid of him.

You need a son of a bitch.

You know, the trouble with the... Well, you know, with all of his faults, I was trying to explain it.

Oh, absolutely.

He was a top son of a bitch.

And the thing about chapters, you know, we never have bullshit, you know.

The trouble, I hate to say this, but today is a question point.

The trouble with the reader is he's a bureaucrat.

He gets a piece of paper and hands it out to someone.

Yesterday, when I raised it, I blew up and I lost my company in the room.

And I said, you can't probably get you to party with this guy for a year.

And I'm in that station.

I said, Joe, I sent you a memo.

I wrote you a memo about it last night.

He said, yeah.

He said, I gave your memo to Robbo.

And he got over it.

I said, why wasn't that done?

He said, well, we took a survey and we decided that he was kind of old-fashioned.

He did not really care.

I said, hey, go ahead.

He took a survey.

We're after some union votes.

We'll get some union votes.

But what you need, I can't possibly, like I said, you know, I said, can't we just kind of repeat everything that we've said across the street?

Because I just discovered something that three weeks ago I was told, well, I told the president, it hasn't been done, so let's go through it, let's pick everything we've done, we've said it every now and then.

The problem is that Mitchell is a strong, powerful man who everyone respects.

But when a lot of little people under him, nobody else thinks of the city in most cases.

The problem, yeah, the problem is that that's

That was a little bit of a black market.

Nobody could make a decision because the black market was so strong.

I bet you it was so strong.

It was horrible.

But frankly, these kids over here just don't move.

They're the best piece of paper.

You really need one son of a bitch who doesn't mind doing something wrong as long as he's doing something right.

Probably would rather have him.

and screw up something and not do the dumb and the old.

And, well, if necessary, do it outta here.

Take, for example, that business of the McGregor's watch.

It just has to be, it has to be now around the clock.

To me, everything he does, you know, to me, that's something I don't know what you're gonna find.

That's something that I'm gonna see.

You don't dig up with me.

Hell, I got Secret Service watching me.

You've got it, too, but, you know,

There are ways that we can .

No, but in your case, of course, if you'd ever .

That's exactly right.

In the governor's case, he could go before .

Yeah, the president could go before .

Could I just suggest this?

Could we, for example, hire

uh, even Mike.

Why the hell don't we hire Vic, I don't know, Victor Lassie, or a young reporter, to classify a good young reporter.

And, uh, so he's gonna do a book, Teddy White does a bunch of other stuff, and he just goes over there with his press bag, he's gonna open his mouth for Victor, but he just covers the son of a bitch like a blanket.

He said, well, what do you do with that?

He's got it in there, and he uses it.

Uh, I mean, I would do it, but they, they,

tell me across the street that they did do this to Humphrey in California and recorded the assumption that everything he said about the government would be on audio tape usable by us in the campaign against the government.

That's good to know.

But they also should have done the same thing for America because a statement like he made yesterday, we ought to have on audio tape and that would change his position.

But the statement he made yesterday was very much what Bill was attempting to say.

The party's going to kind of, how do you think you're now in that state of service?

Bob said that he began to play on the wires at 9 o'clock this morning.

He's done it once.

Who the hell got it on the wires?

I can't take any further.

It isn't as strong on the wires as I know it is.

It's not that you...

It's there or getting repeated.

And of course, the editorialists who were put on the lines, too, which was very interesting, they said that several of the Democrats had told the Senate to unify the party behind it.

You would have to shift something somewhat from positions they regard as too radical, somewhat.

I don't know if they get the radical phrase.

Many of the supporters have backed it from the start as a lonely, long-distance run.

With regard to that, it's a betrayal of the reasons why we supported the S.A.P.

That's good.

Quote, I'm being advised every day by the pundits, and my only advice is to move to the Senate.

We've got to build 3,000 residents, and our houses are all going to drop.

But it's been demonstrated in one primary election after another that the Senate is moving to us, not to help America's state.

The party can come to me, but I can't do that.

So it is, it's, it may be, but somebody...

May I catch this again, sir?

I'll tell you, this is, this is the kind I could find out, but now, uh, now, for a moment, we've come down to the wire of the Democratic convention, and all this sort of thing, and you've got to have every, every bit of evidence you can that this all is, uh, I mean, if everything you've done is going to be, uh, coming to the more fundamental point, what do you think this means?

Do you think that he's

has made a decision that he's going to do it.

He's still going to turn.

I think he's going to turn.

He's doing this because he wants $220 million to New York.

This is the way he gets the dollars to New York.

After New York, he'll start to turn.

Well, after he gets where he knows he's got $1,809.

All this tells me is that he doesn't have a hard time with $1,800.

He is saying this because it's

Sure, sure.

This is based on his past record.

This is the only thing he doesn't have a part in.

I've been accused of being a radical, but if it is radical, then why am I even doing it?

And he'll say, I'm just for change.

Change the system.

I work in the system.

I build a party.

I set up the good.

I build a playoff to set up the good of the public and the state.

And actually, that will begin to sink in on it.

Just raise the question.

You don't have to answer it.

People, even that is what you're trying to do.

It may be subjective.

It may just

But if you just read that headline, you know, it's a topic, it's a subject that people have talked about, at least political people have talked about, and that's what we said.

So the issue was raised, it's a month before it was reported.

But when you come right down to it, Chuck is done.

And he's got the nomination anyway.

Anything more has to be done now.

I think we have to be very careful not to get caught in doing it, but I think we've got to see what's done.

Mitchell, Harlow, and I had missed out on three conferences.

Under this new statute, we were reporting our funds.

We had a very good thought, but we can't do what we used to do.

We're just, I say, follow cash out, and the point is, we're just going to put money in.

And Jane approved.

She was, she said, she was going to put money in.

I talked to Ellsworth, and he will get money from that.

He looks for something.

I hope we just can get some political opportunities in a couple of different countries.

I want to ask you to request that we can create some of those opportunities.

And through that, if you would, I see the gallery over there.

Thank you very much.

I can see that.

I know.

I see it's difficult.

I think he can keep an apartment if they let him do it.

I'm not distressed with the public statement.

And you just may get a few honest guys in the press who start by saying, well, you've got Bill White.

Is he your direct?

No.

I think he did.

I think somebody had him.

He forgot who he was writing to.

because Senator McGovern is himself so vulnerable, even a legal combination might hit against him.

And I would be proud of this man.

He says that people, the rest of the country, are afraid of him.

And he talks about all of them as if they're attacking him.

And then he says one shot and the barrage is plainly his own.

The McGovern program is way out.

And not only on welfare, the tax position is unnecessarily provocative.

And the defense position seems to me positively dangerous.

Mr. McGovern.

and he's trying to drive him off of the government.

Well, he says, essentially, in other words, it's too late for a staff government.

He might have succeeded.

It would drive the government back into a position such an adamant that's delivered to the Democratic Party.

He's done this stuff before, and I'm accepting this out of the government.

I've got to do this rough thing, just plunge away, but I'm going to send this fight on the right.

That's performing a success, but in the process of it.

That's what the rest of the stuff I speak to is,

Well, it all has its effects.

I used to be a subject of all this stuff in 1968.

And you survive over it sometimes.

Sometimes you don't.

But this fall, basically, Chuck, gives us so many targets that you can't work up.

It's just ridiculous for us.

I think there's more targets than there are.

It's just unbelievable.

And he cannot get off of that one.

That he cannot leave.

I don't think he can leave his defense.

No.

He can't leave his defense.

He can't leave his amnesty.

He can't leave his P.O.W.

position.

He scourged Amnesty.

No, he can't leave the P.O.W.

because that's kind of debatable.

How has he scourged Amnesty?

He said when he started to run courses after the war, he said,

They're going to come back and serve a little while, but I don't know what that's going to turn out to be.

Instead, as soon as the war is over, you're going to have to go back to prison.

But that will never catch up with the original statement.

So I'm not even going to do that.

And I'll be granted.

I must stay serving.

You know what I mean?

Plus the deserving.

The idea of deserving.

Yeah.

You see, when Lincoln gave amnesty and worked at the Civil War, it's actually the war of nature at the end.

But it was not the war.

He said they must return to their humans.

And certainly, you see my point?

It's a big difference.

That's a hell of a difference.

This is one where his explanation will never catch up with the chair.

We don't think so, no.

He says that's the state.

I don't think you can move far enough.

In fact, we went to a drug center yesterday in New York, and what he said is that if we weren't wasting money on the war, we could be spending more on drugs.

That's not a very good argument.

The question is absolutely certain.

You're sure about it?

You can't do that question.

You don't think so?

What is this?

Well, they voted for the rip-off.

That's a lot of integrated housing.

That's a rip-off.

But I'm not saying you think he's re-mailed.

Yes, and as recently as last week, when he had the opportunity to come to justice, he was doing an upbringing that upset the Supreme Court decision.

He was pretty blessed.

You know, when you think about it, I don't know whether it's true all over the country, but I have the sensibilities that he's got in Massachusetts.

Peter reminded me of this today with a guy like Jerry Grossman.

He's the Beverly Hills kind of Jew.

He's rich and totally ideological.

I don't know.

And a zealot.

Well, that may be a problem then.

You may have more problems with me.

that's the only thing we don't

Yeah, that's right.

I can see that we just have to remember the issues there.

We may have to use them at some point, but not when you're beating him.

Because the one thing you can't do is the other way around.

You can smear him at any time if you want that to happen.

But we can have a false sense.

Or really, the only way to get it is just gentle sorrow and anger.

Or sorrow of the idea that, well, we can just sincerely believe the wrong thing.

That's right.

Sincerely believe one thing, so that's wrong.

Be nicer, sincerely believe another thing.

And there's a better choice.

He's dedicated to a set of goals for an archivist that I don't think an archivist would want.

No.

Yes.

I'm just going to ask for every one of these.

As a matter of fact, we have probably harder than we would have had to do.

I can't help but believe that's going to start to close the decline in the closing days.

That kind of stuff is really pretty vicious.

$18,000 will pay $500.

We wouldn't dare read that book.

And you know who wrote that book?

You remember that book the media hid to us in 1970 with the children as, you know, they wanted to hear the nearest stuff of this.

This stuff on there was just plain dishonest.

Well, it was dishonest.

It was hard to read that book.

You know, it was nice to read it.

It was nice to read it.

This is a hell of a good program.

The people that care enough about the issues to do this are very thorough and different.

It starts with unconditional amnesty, but out of service requirements for those who don't.

I can sort of read you.

They said, Senator McGovern, how do you plan to support the state of Israel?

What was his primary campaign?

Who were you trying to fool?

This is the one that he got so mad about in California.

Oh, it is?

He asked for time to answer it in New York.

He asked for time to answer it in the Jewish community.

one of the responsible people in New York.

But, you know, he does inspire some pretty violent stuff.

The Jewish community is absolutely...

They are really, really nice.

I get scared every day.

I can't believe that.

I'll just let that go.

How strange those fellows are.

They're scared of this guy.

They're genuinely scared.

Come on, let's go.

Let's go.

But I think, first of all, because of the fence, if there are any birds that go against us and cut itself, we have plenty of ways in which we can slant down and we can tighten up.

But it's not a fence.

But I mean, the point is, in any event, whatever the situation is, we've got to run in terms of, I don't care what the folks show, and talk over it.

I'm very proud of you.

He is vulnerable.

It's not as if we had to really search this guy.

He's very vulnerable.

I think the cumulative effect of a lot of that is that we have to put it on the record.

Every now and again, the secret of the public conscience is that it's scared a lot of people.

It's scared the Catholic.

It's scared of the Holocaust.

It's scared of...

It's scared of... Of course, you realize Chuck, they can choose the Democratic Party.

I don't want to go all out.

I apologize, but I accept the platform.

I formally agree with that.

I'm pretty sure Jewish people are very distressed.

They're distressed.

Are they?

Very.

And if you once, it takes a long time to get over it.

To get over that hurdle.

And I think they will not trust us for that.

But I don't think it's the time to get over it.

It really isn't.

Because I'm pre-making any nukes at all these days.

What's the trouble with him?

Well, he decided, he made a conscious decision to go out and pick people up.

And so, I was there.

He took the side of his son to be on these days.

And so he fixed it.

And this guy, he's the only one.

He's the only one.

The labor code is very resistant.

I've been listening on the phone every day.

He's asked me for various things.

When's the meeting get back?

I said, what are you going to do?

He was very resistant.

He can't support the government.

He won't support me, but I'm going to help him support the government.

He still loves them, but he's perfectly all right to tell the press that he would not support them.

I know some people that know that.

.

I think there's a lot of people who are very sure they're not evil.

I think they're going to have an impact.

Of course, their tactics are cursed.

They're conquerors.

They'll be on the spot.

They have to be able to do a lot of stuff.

They're more of the anti-people.

I don't even want them to accept this stuff.

I mean, if I ever get a plan, I don't know what to see.

I don't know what to do with myself.

I feel like I'm going to be to the water, going to the water.

but also think, I'm going to be killed on two occasions.

One, it costs too much, and two, it would take away jobs.

The only one that they would risk their life.

That's, that's, that's, that's it.

That's it.

I don't know.

I just suppose there's no way we can keep the damn thing.

If they keep it at 10% figure, we can do it.

But, you know, they'll never do that.

The Senate will up it to 20 grand.

They'll throw that one on the floor.

I think they're going to see.

This year, they're going to see.

They're attempting to pay out.

It won't work.

We're going to lose a lot.

But on the other hand, of course, it would destroy the system.

It would be 20% better.

It would jeopardize the system.

There's always ways to screw it up.

It's an unbelievably bad thing.

That's the only one that they have this year.

I don't see any other.

That's why we're here today.

The people that are sick of paying higher taxes and getting less for it, they did the right thing.

I wish the education gave us another opportunity.

Well, I'll tell you one thing.

If they send me down a big welfare bill, an H.R.

1 bill, I'm going to be for it.

What is that one?

That's a 21-figure bill.

What?

Their welfare?

The Senate?

Yes, sir.

Well, that would be an obvious one.

I'm going to be for it.

If they go beyond anything that I've recommended here, I'm going to kill poor Elliot.

I think welfare has gone too far.

Are you agreeing?

Absolutely.

Make sure one is never going to have one of those.

The opportunity you have is to be able to assist in the defense.

You should be taking orders.

We haven't done it yet.

We're sure we're going to do it.

Yeah, yeah.

Chuck had a point out of order.

The other thing he said that we wondered is whether a single camera could be used to film at least my remarks.

But you can see how if I go on for a few minutes,

Yeah, presidential statement, you see.

Uh, the person will be allowed to go.

And, uh, and they, uh, will they?

Well, hey, I think we should consider that.

Okay, fine, thanks.

I mean, it's hard for me to hear it, but it happened to me.

I don't need to justify it.

I don't think the Congress would take it.

They don't care that I didn't get purchased.

I mean, you know, it's corporate.

It's still one of those things.

Sure, taxing is still one of those things.

It's a different, quickly, it's totally different.

Of course, you're asking me to speak, and I'm photographing you and I, but it's a stage act.

It was a fanfare in any event.

Although, I tell you, that's going to be the dumbest son of a bitch you ever saw.

I believe him.

I'm checking on him, because the Jewish chose to do it.

I don't care what he did to me.

So, I'm joking with you.

He chose not well.

He wants more, I want less.

Everything's got to be done for those simple, simplistic things, as you say.

Take that quick choice right there in the line.

Really, you can't go up there and grab bad news and disturbances and prisoners of war.

I'm not pushing.

I'm just taking it.

Oh, there it is.

Defense.

Permissiveness.

Defense.

Strongness.

Permissiveness.

I care for this man for change.

Are you for this kind of change?

If you want to change it this way.

I think you can have this little flap off to get the computers.

or it may happen to another surrounding.

For that reason, I think it's terribly important to check the organization, if you are checking it, to see that they aren't dropping the ball someplace else.

That's exactly what Wilson and I put together.

It was a checklist of the many minutes that we did.

We used that problem to fix it.

And I thought that a lot of people cared about it.

And the reason why I've been happy

Well, it's a damn shame that you can't rely on that sort of thing.

Because Bill Rutgers, it's an area of good instruction.

You know what I'm saying?

Because Bill Rutgers knows that that's what I'm having.

It's a little...

It's a little problem.

I think both of these...

He wants to deal with restaurant department.

He must not.

I told him today to cancel it.

He said it's got to be, uh, go on tomorrow.

Well, I told him today to check it off.

It's a little bit, but it's still sent.