On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:30 pm to 1:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 342-023 of the White House Tapes.
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You, I didn't call you while you were in the hospital because my wife told me you didn't want any letter that you were at any point just getting checked.
But I was delighted to hear that it was just on the agenda.
Well, all kids are used to this sort of thing, of course.
What it does is probably creates a dizziness.
Yeah.
And it basically is gas that comes up there and cuts off the...
cuts off the flow of the blood to the brain for about a minute and all of a sudden you're not counting.
Now that you've discovered that.
Well, I just hope it doesn't munch your rapier tongue.
That's great, that's great, that's great.
Well, I hope that's left.
Oh!
That's a great town.
Yeah, that's good.
You know, one thing, too, is that there's a connection.
Henry, I caught him in Hawaii before he left.
I talked to him Sunday, and he told me to go to the hospital.
And he was talking about the Sunnyskate, which is a company that is again reiterating and regretting the dollar cut, and they're justifying it for now.
Well, it's a very big dollar cut.
The United States would still have enough to build clear windows to ensure it's still good.
And as Henry pointed out, what kind of a war policy is that?
Remember, when they used to criticize dollars for massive retaliation, this is basically minimum retaliation.
And, of course, the nature of suicide is when the only thing the United States can do in foreign policy is to direct an act, which would mean that also the destruction of the United States.
You have no credible foreign policy, whatever, when the Soviet starts to move in the Middle East or something like that.
So that's a real illusion for these guys.
Through the system, without naturally implying that they, certainly they have got the vision that with the regarding this having been annoyed with the
Mr. McCain and so forth, that they do not want to jeopardize whatever might be going on in the negotiating room.
What the hell do you think they're doing?
Well, it's almost a death wish.
They want us to lose.
I mean, the country is losing.
In Vietnam.
No, I know this.
be such a decent guy.
Well, his goes back to the fact that he's been against this for 20 years.
You know what I mean?
Mine, basically, has been all the time on this issue.
But anyway, you can handle it.
In other words, you would not hold the bill up for collateral detention.
Or otherwise, or otherwise, what will be, what will happen if you don't do that?
You know what I mean?
He has a, he has a strong conviction on this, which I expect him to, I just don't think he's talking about anything now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I tried.
I tried.
Uh...
At this point, they should have picked on me.
But now, that's why I'm here.
That's the thing.
I think anything that's a man, that's a person at this particular time,
have already, kind of like, have the effect of encouraging, basically, the real shit that's true.
That's what it gets down to.
And, uh, well, that's, uh, you'll leave it to your good judgment.
You can talk to the boys on any kind of judgment, and we'll do one together.
I'm sure we should accomplish something.
That's it coming up.
Right, right.
Well, go ahead and take care of yourself.
Take care.