Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 343-027 Date: Wednesday, June 21, 1972 at 4:00 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; White House operator; Delaney, James J. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/343-027 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [59:55] I got over that. [59:56] Thank you. [1:06:15] No, no. [1:06:15] He went out of his way to do what he had to do. [1:06:17] That's correct. [1:06:17] Sure. [1:06:17] I don't believe that. [1:06:19] He didn't do anything wrong. [1:06:21] He did do some stuff that he did. [1:06:24] But not for us. [1:06:24] No, he didn't do anything for us. [1:06:25] But I believe he did do it for us. [1:06:28] He would ask a question. [1:06:29] He would ask a question. [1:06:51] I don't know what's wrong with sending someone like this, but I don't know. [1:06:53] I don't understand why. [1:06:54] I think that we could go from the terrorists to the CIA. [1:06:55] I don't know. [1:06:56] You know what? [1:06:56] You know what? [1:06:57] It's time for these people to leave. [1:06:58] They work for them. [1:06:58] But we need to get lost. [1:07:21] I'll tell you, I would think that this would have one plus. [1:07:27] I don't know. [1:08:16] They don't know him, and he said, I quote, Radio Hanoi and the government, and he said, I'm sorry, there are a few people I'd like to say this to, but Radio Hanoi said no. [1:08:25] And he said, I just want to tell you that as far as the veterans community is concerned, it's powerful, and big, and the LW is almost two million. [1:08:35] He said, we've got a campaign organization that will really go to town. [1:08:39] The second thing he said was, I hope you're not paying any attention to the budget, because [1:08:44] He said, every place I go in small groups, I say, you're right about it. [1:08:47] And he said, in very small groups, I don't care. [1:08:49] And he said, the reaction of those who had it is, well, the Republicans wouldn't do that, because they're in power. [1:08:59] And they could do it a hell of a lot more skillfully than that, if they would do it. [1:09:05] He said, you're right about it. [1:09:06] Nobody believes that you're wrong about it. [1:09:15] You know, surprised and shocked. [1:09:17] I believe it makes a horrible revolution just now. [1:09:19] When people learn all about how you develop. [1:09:22] Wiretaping. [1:09:23] Let's just look at wiretaping. [1:09:27] The country's foreign to you. [1:09:30] We're actually trying to control the country. [1:09:33] There's a wiretaping on this thing like this. [1:09:36] So now we're going to break in the wiretaping. [1:09:39] I don't know. [1:09:40] I don't think... [1:09:41] I don't know. [1:09:42] I don't know. [1:09:44] No, I said... [1:09:45] I said... [1:14:02] I've also been intrigued with another thing is the, I don't know what about it, but it is that we did a personalized letter to every local labor leader in the country, every American agent, post commander, BFW post commander, DAB post commander. [1:14:14] We sent out 45,000 letters. [1:14:15] They were vaccinal. [1:14:16] It really was. [1:14:30] He came out as not very much of a person, but we should thank him for this support. [1:15:06] We did this not only to support the people who could get it, but also to get the mainstream campaign. [1:15:14] Anybody who writes back, better have a letter to know what you used. [1:15:21] Clearly, there clearly is not too much. [1:34:39] Congressman Jim DeLay of New York City. [1:37:15] Hello? [1:37:17] Yeah. [1:37:19] Hello? [1:37:21] Hi Jim, how are you? [1:37:22] I just wanted to call to tell you that just one pulse that you just found. [1:37:26] I'm sure glad to see you come through yesterday. [1:37:32] I hope that you can support him in some of these tough problems in Southeast Asia. [1:37:40] It didn't hurt you too much. [1:38:26] Well, I'll tell you, I hope you take a good night out. [1:38:29] You get out Friday and take off a couple of weeks. [1:38:30] Yeah, right. [1:38:31] I know what you do, right in the sand, right? [1:38:52] Right, right, fine. [1:38:53] Sometime I'll get down there while I drop into the bank and see my old friend Ramonzo. [1:38:56] Yeah, you do, yeah. [1:38:57] Alright, good, good, good. [1:38:57] And if the water is better on your side, go over and sit on the beach on my side. [1:39:01] It's pretty good. [1:39:01] Okay. [1:39:23] Yeah. [1:39:25] Yeah, you know, I was a good man. [1:39:28] Nice people. [1:39:29] Okay. [1:39:30] Wasn't he curtain? [1:39:35] Yeah. [1:39:37] He was marvelous. [1:39:39] Yeah. [1:39:44] Well, it still is, you know. [1:39:46] They've kept up that one thing. [1:39:46] A lot of places were taught that there is a date. [1:39:48] And so that way, according to both of them, he tells me the pub has deteriorated. [1:39:50] It's very good. [1:39:50] Isn't that a shame? [1:39:51] Remember, they used to have the best hamburgers there that I've ever had. [1:40:10] Well, that's the building, yeah. [1:40:11] Is that good? [1:40:11] Yeah. [1:40:21] I couldn't agree, I looked. [1:40:21] Well, you just take care, and I'll see you down there maybe sometime. [1:40:26] Fine, okay. [1:40:26] Tell me about Bozo, about Jeff Delaney. [1:40:28] He probably doesn't remember. [1:40:29] The Congress, his double bank is his bank. [1:40:32] He has an apartment in the Sands. [1:40:34] He's coming over there, I don't know if he mentioned it. [1:40:35] Do we get it? [1:40:36] Yes, and we don't mention it. [1:40:38] You said that... [1:40:49] Whatever you want, you know what I mean? [1:40:50] I mean, he's got a tool for it. [1:40:50] A few of our friends. [1:48:56] It said three cheaters ran away, carrying a pig. [1:48:57] It was a speech, a speech by the book. [1:48:58] I noticed it wrong. [1:48:59] It said that wasn't her own fault. [1:49:00] That affected the suspense over the summer. [1:49:01] It affected the game a lot. [1:49:02] It affected that according to Harris, nobody expected to accomplish anything. [1:56:39] My feeling was kind of true. [1:56:39] The question really is what do you want me to do? [1:56:41] I signed the half-assed business. [1:57:18] We don't know. [1:57:50] What I'm concerned about is what was the last storm. [1:57:57] And if you move down, the prices go up. [1:58:00] And if you move, the weeks that are going up, the weeks before they go up. [1:58:20] I was in favor of your going away. [1:58:23] The reason that I was in favor was that I thought the prices were going to go up this week. [1:58:34] They didn't. [1:58:34] And therefore, my goal was to have it ready again. [1:58:39] And by executive order, the president, the very next day, [1:59:49] I don't think that's so long period of time, because it will be heard in the end. [1:59:55] It will be very much like the kind of war that was just during that psychology. [2:00:04] Of course, there was also the price to die on. [2:00:07] You don't know how long it will last. [2:00:23] And you feel it. [2:00:24] The cattle growers understand this is not a decisive deal. [2:01:04] What would you say then? [2:01:06] He froze and died. [2:01:35] I need a reason, Mr. President, for him. [2:01:36] He wanted to do what he did. [2:01:37] Do the political thing. [2:01:38] Roll it back. [2:01:39] If it crept up until I noticed, on September 1st, I don't agree. [2:01:42] He's going to roll that to 30 levels. [2:01:43] I think we have it for now. [2:02:43] I've talked to this president. [2:02:44] I talked to Clark when we were standing at the recommendation meeting before. [2:02:46] And I've made two other deals with him over the last three weeks. [2:02:47] I've put him in the president's meeting and said, if you tell me this is the balance of this year at all, I'm going to support you. [2:02:50] They won't put this with any president. [2:02:51] It's going to be a quiet response. [2:03:42] I didn't appreciate this president before. [2:03:43] He wanted to do what he did, do the political thing, roll it back in the Senate. [2:03:44] If it crept up in July, I don't know, September 1st, you know, it's not only free, it's going to roll back to 30,000. [2:03:47] I think we haven't provided for it. [2:04:44] It is a terrible sense of issue, because people build it up in their own minds, and they get mad, and they've got nobody else to sort of take it out. [2:04:47] And they make it worse than it is, and even when prices go up, people can't pay up. [2:04:50] And so there's the present before you issue a very strong order that people interpret it. [2:05:43] And that's the only issue that the owner had to see. [2:05:44] The only thing that we have is the issue with the sport. [2:05:46] There are issues with Japanese. [2:05:47] It would be a bad thing if it just stayed the way it is. [2:05:49] If it just stayed the way it is today. [2:05:50] But the one issue, it'll be better. [2:06:13] It's all our committee, it's all of us. [2:06:15] It's all of us. [2:06:15] And there's more police and reptile than there is folk or anything else. [2:06:18] That's my governance. [2:06:18] That's supposedly what I'm trying to do. [2:06:19] More people to live with your hand than you have today. [2:06:21] And Harrison did admit it. [2:06:22] What is that? [2:06:42] Handling the war in Vietnam is up in May of 2759. [2:06:43] Very much, most of the press are going to be there. [2:06:45] The government is going to be very excellent, very, very important for Israel. [2:06:49] Wanting to have the war in Vietnam, the handling of the war in Vietnam in 3759, what is now going to be done, which is a significant thing, but I mean, my agency, [2:07:14] Very, very similar. [2:07:14] 64, 25, approval, disapproval. [2:07:15] My governor vote is 39, 51. [2:07:15] My Nixon vote is 80, 50, 10. [2:07:16] My Wallace vote is 76, 14. [2:07:16] Next question, the impact of the mining on the water. [2:07:17] Length of the water, 18%. [2:07:18] I said yes. [2:07:18] Shortfall of the water, 43%. [2:07:18] So the church really is [2:07:46] That issue is struggling. [2:07:49] That issue today is impossible. [2:07:54] Take these figures. [2:07:57] And so, 82 will die. [2:07:58] I think 86% of the people will be able to still be involved in the event. [2:08:05] So it'd be quite significant, the event, that we had this huge fire here. [2:13:27] Oh yeah, I'll send that down. [2:13:30] What does it say? [2:13:31] President Nixon's favorite Cuban figure of all time has been associated through a family real estate firm with a Cuban bugging crew that allegedly attempted to install listening devices inside an Albright party headquarters. [2:13:47] The suspected leader of the bugging group, Bernard Parker, is a joint investor in the real estate development of another company in Cuba, as well as Suarez. [2:13:57] We let sources say that D.P. [2:13:58] Rozo has been involved in some of the appeals. [2:14:00] Now I've been unable to reach for Rozo or Swearer as for Conner. [2:14:05] However, I was able to arrange an exclusive interview with some of the suspects in the D.C. jail. [2:14:10] They denied that D.P. [2:14:11] Rozo had anything to do with the bugging attempt. [2:14:15] However, they took their instructions, and Bernard Barker never told them who was putting up the cash, their hotel accommodations, and the fashion we're working in, before the legging was attempted. [2:14:25] And now all the legal expenses have been provided by a mysterious man like Mr. Jones. [2:14:34] Son of a bitch. [2:14:35] Yes. [2:14:35] Well, it's horrible, isn't it? [2:14:36] I don't know if anybody heard of that, but I think Roboto did. [2:14:38] Absolutely. [2:14:38] My 18-year-old son and I were watching him, and he said, that sounds like Roboto. [2:14:42] Isn't that awful? [2:14:46] Yeah, it's terrible. [2:14:49] Of course, he was mad. [2:14:49] He was mad. [2:14:57] I call him. [2:14:58] I just call him. [2:14:58] I'll call him. [2:14:59] Call him, greet him, and send him down. [2:15:05] Okay. [2:15:05] Yes, sir. [2:15:05] I held it by delay. [2:15:06] Yes, I will.