On June 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:56 pm to 1:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 344-022 of the White House Tapes.
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It was very cleverly done.
In fact, your people are always very clever, I believe, and I hope that you find those incredible shoes that they're working on that you've never worked on before.
Oh, it was a fine job.
Okay.
Thanks.
Yeah, very good one.
Wow.
Hello.
Hi, Ron.
I just got, uh, that's, uh, an armchair.
It'll come up pretty quick, so, uh...
Do you think I should get into Lavelle then?
My own view is that if I do, I'm sort of close to getting into Lavelle.
I just, my thought at the beginning was to say that the foreign policy is not going to matter.
I guess I'll say that on the matter that it hasn't layered the legislation on it.
I mean, they have said there's not going to be a court-martial, right?
Well, of course there should not be.
Yeah, I just say in the Department of Defense, the Department of the Secretary of Defense, the Discussion Committee has stated that there's a decision on that matter, and I support that decision, period.
And so I'd rather say, rather than get into it.
I'm forwarding stuff.
I'm not going to get into the business of saying this can't even go and all that crap.
It's what we live for.
We just want to stay out of that.
The Department of Defense takes a position on that.
I support that.
It really is so much more important.
Now the other thing was this.
I was thinking...
I don't know what else to say.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
But I was in protection because they recovered that.
And I just spoke to him about what he said.
And he said, of course, I don't know what it's all about.
I don't know what he said.
But I think that's just kind of that theory.
I think I don't know what it's all about.
It's a process.
And I don't know what it's all about.
They do that sometimes.
If you have a single standard, you have to follow the legal control of the steel papers from the White House.
There's a lot of steel papers from the government.
What do you think about that?
Because, you know, there's bubblings.
There's not bubblings.
And everything else involved in that, they are theft.
And the NPR kind of broke into that research and into the market.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
I'm wrong when I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this, and I say this,
I was wondering if this black-and-white layer is something that you would like to address?
I just want to say this, and I would say this, and I would like to say this, and I would say this, and I would say this, and I would say this,
Now, what we have to realize is that this is the first step.
To take the next step, which can be a much bigger step, a permanent
a comprehensive implementation on office as well.
It is indispensable that the United States have ongoing programs.
It would be harder to give any incentive to the Soviet Union to negotiate it because the impression of it is very clear that they were going to have ongoing programs.
I can tell you, Donald, we wouldn't have an APM agreement.
We wouldn't have a defense implementation.
We wouldn't have any agreement with all of Moscow had we not had an ongoing program with APM.
You see my point?
It's a hell of a problem for the Soviet Union.
How do you say it?
How do you respond to that?
We've got to get in this.
We'll probably leave it out at this point.
There's a bear that laid my feet as a witch.
That wasn't the same.
I'll address that question.
I'll address that question.
The main thing you should take on, you see, not the vision.
The way Larry said it, even more of a vision.
You've got to say, this is the first step.
In order to make the next giant step, the big step,
the president is that it would be ironic and it would be tragic if those, if there were senators who would support the arts control is limited and then vote against the