{"conversationCode":"349-011","tapeNumber":349,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-349-011","startDateTime":"1972-07-20T19:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-20T19:16:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Jul-1972","startTime":"3:02 PM","endDate":"20-Jul-1972","endTime":"3:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On July 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:02 pm to 3:16 pm. 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(President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"349-010","nextCode":"349-012","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":1.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.87,"end":14.25,"text":"Oh, I'm just waiting for Bob to get over here and come say anything."},{"start":14.27,"end":14.54,"text":"Anything new?"},{"start":14.55,"end":14.65,"text":"Sure."},{"start":14.68,"end":22.3,"text":"In your department?"},{"start":22.5,"end":22.6,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":25.98,"end":26.66,"text":"Can he make breakfast?"},{"start":26.69,"end":27.07,"text":"No, it's all right."},{"start":27.09,"end":27.93,"text":"It would be Monday."},{"start":27.95,"end":28.37,"text":"Monday would be good."},{"start":29.95,"end":38.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":38.06,"end":40.9,"text":"Well, you could do it Saturday morning."},{"start":40.92,"end":41.37,"text":"Well, fine."},{"start":41.38,"end":41.87,"text":"All right."},{"start":42.63,"end":48.91,"text":"That would be that."},{"start":48.94,"end":49.78,"text":"But maybe breakfast is not the thing."},{"start":49.92,"end":50.76,"text":"How about the... All right, fine."},{"start":50.78,"end":52.8,"text":"Well, I'd rather do it when it's hot."},{"start":52.82,"end":53.78,"text":"Could you come in..."},{"start":57.79,"end":79.48,"text":"I'll tell you, would he like to, uh... Is he free tonight?"},{"start":79.5,"end":79.76,"text":"Are you free?"},{"start":79.78,"end":80.32,"text":"Oh, no, he doesn't want to."},{"start":80.34,"end":80.92,"text":"I tried to issue it."},{"start":80.94,"end":81.34,"text":"Right, right, right."},{"start":81.36,"end":82.91,"text":"Why don't you call him and see if he'd like to take a boat ride tonight?"},{"start":83.8,"end":105.59,"text":"Okay."},{"start":105.61,"end":105.71,"text":"Fine."},{"start":105.73,"end":105.83,"text":"Okay."},{"start":105.85,"end":106.63,"text":"He said he's got some fascinating news."},{"start":106.65,"end":107.19,"text":"I mean, analysis, not news."},{"start":107.21,"end":107.89,"text":"Actually, it's analysis, not news."},{"start":107.92,"end":108.4,"text":"He's not writing a file."},{"start":108.42,"end":109.38,"text":"He said he wants to do it, but he doesn't do it."},{"start":109.4,"end":109.74,"text":"He doesn't do it."},{"start":114.53,"end":138.73,"text":"Got me back at 9."},{"start":138.75,"end":138.97,"text":"Passed off."},{"start":138.99,"end":139.35,"text":"That's a good one."},{"start":139.37,"end":139.57,"text":"Very good."},{"start":149.48,"end":166.76,"text":"Again, I'm touching up here."},{"start":166.78,"end":167.68,"text":"I'll hold until Monday morning for breakfast."},{"start":167.7,"end":168.36,"text":"Maybe for another Monday morning."},{"start":168.38,"end":169.32,"text":"You see the thing sort of holding where it was."},{"start":178.55,"end":197.76,"text":"Two Governors today, Kato and Bruce, who are sitting on my left and my left."},{"start":197.78,"end":199.15,"text":"Over at the southern bank, they've got a lot of young people coming."},{"start":199.17,"end":199.85,"text":"We're going to get some hostility."},{"start":199.87,"end":201.35,"text":"They're just talking about Russia and China, and we'll get out of the way."},{"start":201.37,"end":201.47,"text":"Okay."},{"start":201.49,"end":201.91,"text":"I've got two of them."},{"start":206.24,"end":231.81,"text":"I think food is coming out."},{"start":231.83,"end":232.59,"text":"There must be other things coming out."},{"start":232.61,"end":232.97,"text":"That's a good one."},{"start":232.99,"end":233.23,"text":"That's good."},{"start":233.25,"end":233.63,"text":"Yeah, I don't know."},{"start":233.65,"end":234.59,"text":"They're worth a damn what you're talking about."},{"start":234.61,"end":234.97,"text":"Did that come out?"},{"start":234.99,"end":235.05,"text":"No."},{"start":235.07,"end":235.49,"text":"If you told me eight."},{"start":235.53,"end":235.61,"text":"God."},{"start":240.97,"end":253.04,"text":"That's right."},{"start":253.06,"end":253.58,"text":"Do you want some stock?"},{"start":270.1,"end":290.26,"text":"What about the breakfast meeting?"},{"start":290.28,"end":291.46,"text":"Give me money for two scams and you take care of the press."},{"start":291.48,"end":291.84,"text":"Oh, wait a minute."},{"start":291.86,"end":292.12,"text":"This Tuesday."},{"start":292.14,"end":292.75,"text":"I have no money for two scams."},{"start":292.76,"end":293.19,"text":"No, scamming tonight."},{"start":293.2,"end":293.38,"text":"Scamming."},{"start":293.4,"end":293.95,"text":"No, we do scamming tonight."},{"start":294.31,"end":300.48,"text":"And Harris, Monday or Tuesday, if this fellow, well, Harris won't be using the record, but if Monday or Tuesday, I'm sure he will."},{"start":333.97,"end":349.44,"text":"They had broken it off my chain."},{"start":349.46,"end":349.94,"text":"I was pretty well aware."},{"start":349.96,"end":350.6,"text":"It was just perfectly within me."},{"start":350.62,"end":351.94,"text":"And the power hooker didn't really set him right up the damn wall."},{"start":351.96,"end":353.77,"text":"And he did get across the low stand, but I was just damn careful and I never attacked him."},{"start":375.57,"end":394.52,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":394.54,"end":395.36,"text":"It's the way that came through, you know."},{"start":395.38,"end":395.66,"text":"Her apartment."},{"start":395.68,"end":395.88,"text":"She blows."},{"start":395.9,"end":396.5,"text":"She's a fanatic on everything."},{"start":396.52,"end":397.14,"text":"She's a fanatic when she blows."},{"start":397.17,"end":398.49,"text":"Of course, I rather think she's a fanatic because of cold weather."},{"start":414.67,"end":418.89,"text":"Well, you can check the scan if it's free."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss scheduling a meeting with an unnamed associate, weighing the merits of a breakfast appointment versus a more informal evening boat ride. 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