Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 351-008
Date: Thursday, July 27, 1972 at 4:46 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/351-008

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[0:00] I was going to say that I thought that I know that .
[0:04] You get language that if you can get language and keep the sons of it, you're still doing it against it.
[0:27] Best to not get three or four new ones.
[0:30] I'm afraid I want you to know whatever you decide don't pay any price
[1:01] accept that, then they knock out another fellow.
[1:05] My view is, what you said today was good.
[1:10] Did you hear what I said?
[1:47] I didn't say it quite that directly.
[1:58] But I thought, in that effect, they made a nasty comment today that actually had the effect and that the .
[2:06] If you don't want the dice, I think we played that.
[2:17] Who are they doing?
[2:23] I don't know, I want to see how they pledged because there's other things that this must have been out of span.
[2:33] In fact, he said, the only thing I left, which I deliberately pitched on, I know that Laird said they have been— Sam died with him.
[2:40] Well, you said it pretty much.
[2:40] You said you won't hit them unless they die with Sam.
[2:42] Yeah, that's pretty good.
[2:44] Oh, I thought danger in America.
[3:29] The way it is, though, the way that you've been trying to describe the work that you're doing in this field, you don't want to say, I was able to get in some pretty good sluts on agriculture and so forth without being correct.
[3:50] Although I could have said something about what else you were saying.
[3:51] I thought, but it all came down to, I would say, you've got to know about stuff like that.
[4:08] You see, the interesting thing is that a political scientist would like to not stick the answer on truth.
[4:24] And I mean, I don't know how many people have thought, but at the last realize .
[4:37] One was
[4:47] But that was fine because Johnson and everyone thought they liked him.
[4:56] I was talking about the two of them.
[5:01] No, no, it wasn't the same story.
[5:06] I find it.
[5:07] I find it.
[5:07] It's a question.
[5:07] Listen, you know what Mark Hanna did for you?
[5:10] I said, what's going on?
[5:12] He said, now that Maniac is president.
[5:14] That Maniac.
[5:14] I know exactly how they made him vice president.
[5:15] But you see, my brother, I said Maniac.
[5:29] So it really comes down to the question of life, but it's really more than anything else, the question of character.
[5:43] I thought you had to do it, but I don't know if you could.
[5:51] Really?
[5:51] Coming back to Scott.
[5:55] I don't feel, I don't know.
[5:57] I just don't feel they ought to come here.
[6:03] It's dishonest of them.
[6:07] What's the price we have to do to get their support?
[6:10] They've gone to Moscow.
[6:12] How would you like the answer of help from?
[6:13] Isn't that a good way to put it?
[6:15] If you notice, I say, well, that's a self-serving statement to me.
[6:16] And I say, well, I don't think others should have to put it out, personally.
[6:21] You know, you start this business and help.
[6:23] You have the opportunity to accomplish that stuff in the end.
[7:14] Now, an M.D.
[7:32] has got to have the same relationship.
[7:51] .
[8:20] .
[8:20] .
[8:39] I think it's, but it's on this, on that, you want, you want to do this, and if you do, it's all right.
[9:01] I'll do it.
[9:01] Well, I want to back off my position.
[9:04] I've heard both of them, and I'm with you.
[9:05] I'm glad to be seeing all these guys.
[9:13] It doesn't come up with that.
[9:21] It doesn't come up with that .
[9:23] But you know, isn't it?
[9:25] Because you know, you've got to .
[9:28] It is quite shocking.
[9:29] They delivered 45,000 casualties.
[9:31] That's .
[9:31] They delivered 600,000, 800, 600,000 .
[9:33] a day into Adelaide.
[9:34] That's right.
[9:35] And now the Moncrief, they had .
[9:37] They had to withdraw from the Citadel.
[10:04] What are they?
[10:05] Mr. President, we've never come through.
[10:07] If you could hurt their feelings, they wouldn't be talking to us today.
[10:13] No, we're not going to get anywhere being so turnstruck now.
[10:16] Now, do you think I ought to see these five senators?
[10:20] Let's see what the situation is.
[10:22] All right.
[10:23] Okay.
[10:23] Send the other fellow senators.