{"conversationCode":"351-010","tapeNumber":351,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-351-010","startDateTime":"1972-08-01T18:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-01T18:40:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Aug-1972","startTime":"2:22 PM","endDate":"1-Aug-1972","endTime":"2:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:22 pm to 2:40 pm. 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O'Brien, Jr.\n               -George Meany's reaction\n               -Recent talk with the President\n               -Edward M. Kennedy\n\n     Washington Star article\n         -News summary\n\n     Unknown people\n\n     Suburbs","filename":["351-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"351-009","nextCode":"351-011","transcript":[{"start":47.01,"end":55.42,"text":"My brother did that job."},{"start":55.44,"end":69.16,"text":"I was just thinking, I think the main reason I wanted to do that was trying to do the third and third and seventh."},{"start":69.18,"end":70.16,"text":"And the way they did it was to go with the water."},{"start":70.18,"end":70.64,"text":"So I didn't get it out."},{"start":70.66,"end":71.1,"text":"Do you know the story?"},{"start":71.12,"end":71.94,"text":"Well, we'll give you a few more minutes."},{"start":71.96,"end":72.36,"text":"They liked the idea."},{"start":122.22,"end":125.12,"text":"But we need it."},{"start":125.14,"end":125.67,"text":"We need it to be involved."},{"start":156.02,"end":158.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":158.65,"end":164.79,"text":"I think the 80s backlash will last a while."},{"start":164.81,"end":165.17,"text":"I suppose it will."},{"start":165.19,"end":165.51,"text":"It's a sort of ."},{"start":165.53,"end":166.24,"text":"It's so personal."},{"start":201.4,"end":215.36,"text":"Incidentally, what would be the reaction of meaning to O'Brien?"},{"start":215.38,"end":215.86,"text":"I certainly wouldn't ."},{"start":215.88,"end":217.92,"text":"He just said, no, the only one that could help him would be ."},{"start":267.6,"end":283.46,"text":"Staying ready?"},{"start":283.48,"end":283.9,"text":"You ready to tell us?"},{"start":311.83,"end":332.7,"text":"Great."},{"start":332.72,"end":332.82,"text":"Sure."},{"start":332.84,"end":333.18,"text":"Yeah, they have ."},{"start":428.27,"end":440.01,"text":"Don't lose it."},{"start":440.03,"end":444.16,"text":"He said, be sure to come."},{"start":444.18,"end":445.32,"text":"He said he's not."},{"start":445.34,"end":449.75,"text":"He made this up."},{"start":449.77,"end":449.97,"text":"All right."},{"start":479.5,"end":484.77,"text":"Right."},{"start":485.39,"end":486.74,"text":"Well, I know some of you are not okay with that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss the political fallout following the removal of Thomas Eagleton from the Democratic ticket and its potential impact on the upcoming election. 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