{"conversationCode":"352-009","tapeNumber":352,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-352-009","startDateTime":"1972-07-26T21:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-26T21:29:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Jul-1972","startTime":"5:21 PM","endDate":"26-Jul-1972","endTime":"5:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On July 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:21 pm to 5:29 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 352-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 352-9\n\nDate: July 26, 1972\nTime: 5:21 pm - 5:29 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 27-92]","filename":["352-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"352-008","nextCode":"352-010","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":1.65,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.67,"end":1.98,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":49.29,"end":50.51,"text":"What do you want me to say about that?"},{"start":107.73,"end":109.53,"text":"Even if the mother isn't working."},{"start":111.75,"end":118.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":118.68,"end":120.31,"text":"I don't know the situation."},{"start":120.33,"end":121.43,"text":"Let's see if we have handguns."},{"start":123.53,"end":128.46,"text":"What, apparently Pat Gray had said something."},{"start":128.48,"end":130.3,"text":"Do we want to go further than we've gone on?"},{"start":131.18,"end":132.62,"text":"Saturday night specials to the mountain."},{"start":135.99,"end":136.79,"text":"What did it say?"},{"start":166.99,"end":177.47,"text":"Yeah, because they didn't provide the other ."},{"start":182.45,"end":186.26,"text":"Yeah, but not ."},{"start":186.34,"end":192.09,"text":"Oh, yeah, you made it."},{"start":295.99,"end":296.36,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman discuss the administration's stance on gun control legislation, specifically focusing on policies regarding 'Saturday night specials.' The conversation addresses potential public statements concerning the FBI and Director L. Patrick Gray's previous remarks on the issue. They deliberate on the extent of the administration's involvement in current legislative proposals and the strategic messaging required to handle the matter.","topics":["Gun control","Saturday night specials","L. Patrick Gray","Legislative strategy","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:36:04.409Z"},"topicSlugs":["gun-control","saturday-night-specials","l-patrick-gray","legislative-strategy","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":319,"audioFiles":[{"file":"352-009.mp3","bytes":7653667,"durationSec":318.83,"bitrate":192045,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/352-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/352-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/352/conversation-352-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}