{"conversationCode":"352-022","tapeNumber":352,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-352-022","startDateTime":"1972-08-02T18:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-02T18:36:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Aug-1972","startTime":"2:33 PM","endDate":"2-Aug-1972","endTime":"2:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On August 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:33 pm to 2:36 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 352-022 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 352-22\n\nDate: August 2, 1972\nTime: 2:33 pm - 2:36 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 28-45; one item has been withdrawn]","filename":["352-022.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"352-021","nextCode":"352-023","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":0.85,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":2.87,"end":4.72,"text":"So, I run."},{"start":4.74,"end":8.29,"text":"I just, uh, want you to run."},{"start":8.3,"end":14.72,"text":"I know that you couldn't have me."},{"start":14.74,"end":15.22,"text":"And I want to water you."},{"start":15.24,"end":15.56,"text":"Thank you, Mike."},{"start":15.58,"end":16.53,"text":"You're so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so."},{"start":16.55,"end":17.13,"text":"We have to run."},{"start":57.68,"end":62,"text":"Oh, it is, isn't it?"},{"start":62.02,"end":63.54,"text":"We're directing everybody to cooperate."},{"start":66.59,"end":67.11,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":67.13,"end":71.94,"text":"Right, right, right."},{"start":71.96,"end":86.7,"text":"Well, they know, I think they all come to the discomfort, you know, when things come along, and there's some wonderful kids, and we're better, and so on."},{"start":86.72,"end":86.82,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":86.86,"end":86.96,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler briefly coordinate a unified public relations strategy regarding ongoing investigations. They emphasize the necessity of directing White House staff to cooperate with inquiries while managing the discomfort caused by emerging negative publicity. The discussion serves to align the administration's messaging to ensure consistency as the team navigates political pressure.","topics":["Public relations","Staff coordination","Administration transparency","Political strategy","Investigations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:37:18.416Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","staff-coordination","administration-transparency","political-strategy","investigations"],"audioDurationSec":98,"audioFiles":[{"file":"352-022.mp3","bytes":2344123,"durationSec":97.6,"bitrate":192141,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/352-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/352-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/352/conversation-352-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}