{"conversationCode":"353-007","tapeNumber":353,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-353-007","startDateTime":"1972-08-03T16:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-03T16:37:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Aug-1972","startTime":"12:12 PM","endDate":"3-Aug-1972","endTime":"12:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Woods, Rose Mary; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On August 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Rose Mary Woods, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:37 pm. 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Colson.\n\n[Conversation No. 353-7A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 28-57; one item has been withdrawn]\n\nRose Mary Woods entered at 12:15 pm.\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n       Unknown woman [Mary Matthews?]\n           -Chicago Tribune\n                 -Interview of Woods\n                        -Mary [last name unknown]\n           -Visit to the President’s office\n           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\n                                       (rev. Nov-03)\n\n      Possible gift item\n            -Music box\n                  -Description\n                         -Possible personalized message\n                               -Presidential seal\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 13m 35s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      Gift idea\n             -Presidential seal\n\n      Painting of King Timahoe\n            -Placement\n\nManolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:15 pm.\n\n      The President's schedule\n\nWoods and Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:37 pm.","filename":["353-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W.","Woods, Rose Mary","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"353-006","nextCode":"353-008","transcript":[{"start":12.7,"end":22.5,"text":"Mary Roebling, she was there doing a lot of work."},{"start":22.94,"end":26.7,"text":"Mary Matthews or something like that."},{"start":26.79,"end":29.79,"text":"Mary Roebling is the wife."},{"start":30.63,"end":38,"text":"And then when you moved from your office, I showed her your office."},{"start":38.14,"end":40.33,"text":"She was so pleased to have you."},{"start":40.34,"end":41.55,"text":"Great admirer of"},{"start":42.12,"end":55.37,"text":"This is another kind of a music box."},{"start":55.39,"end":57.58,"text":"It could be personalized."},{"start":57.6,"end":64.28,"text":"It could be a blue with a gold seal on it."},{"start":64.34,"end":71.85,"text":"Well, this gives you the name of the box, but this will play."},{"start":75.48,"end":82.45,"text":"I have a carousel over there, just bring it over."},{"start":82.47,"end":89.42,"text":"But when you look at it again, it looks more like, there's no way to personalize it enough from you, you know."},{"start":89.44,"end":90.8,"text":"That's a nice thing, yeah."},{"start":90.82,"end":95.97,"text":"Wouldn't that be something they should, and we have a whole list of stars, you know."},{"start":95.99,"end":98.77,"text":"That looks like a nice way to get it to the second level, yeah."},{"start":99.05,"end":100.21,"text":"I think it does."},{"start":100.23,"end":100.5,"text":"Great."},{"start":101.68,"end":102.94,"text":"I'll take that much for the best."},{"start":106.11,"end":118.31,"text":"Okay, thank you."},{"start":118.33,"end":120.97,"text":"That's a great idea."},{"start":120.99,"end":130.82,"text":"I think this idea is a little more, you know, to put the seal on, I think it really must be great."},{"start":130.84,"end":134.19,"text":"I grabbed that picture, that painting of King over there."},{"start":134.79,"end":139.92,"text":"Oh, I have it out here."},{"start":139.94,"end":164.8,"text":"It might even be good out on the scenario."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss strategies for presidential gift-giving, specifically focusing on the feasibility of customizing music boxes with the presidential seal to distribute to notable individuals. They also address logistical matters, including the placement of a painting of the President's dog, King Timahoe, and the President's upcoming schedule. The conversation reflects administrative efforts to manage White House promotional items and office decor in consultation with Rose Mary Woods and Manolo Sanchez.","topics":["Presidential gifts","White House administration","Office decor","Public relations","King Timahoe"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:38:28.396Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-gifts","white-house-administration","office-decor","public-relations","king-timahoe"],"audioDurationSec":171,"audioFiles":[{"file":"353-007.mp3","bytes":4107701,"durationSec":171.08,"bitrate":192083,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/353-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/353-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/353/conversation-353-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}