{"conversationCode":"353-013","tapeNumber":353,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-353-013","startDateTime":"1972-08-03T18:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-03T18:27:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Aug-1972","startTime":"2:24 PM","endDate":"3-Aug-1972","endTime":"2:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.;","description":"On August 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:24 pm to 2:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 353-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 353-13\n\nDate: August 3, 1972\nTime: 2:24 pm -2:27 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John B. Connally.\n\n[See Conversation No. 29-2; one item has been withdrawn]","filename":["353-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"353-012","nextCode":"353-014","transcript":[{"start":1.35,"end":3.23,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":7.19,"end":10.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":10.6,"end":10.7,"text":"Okay."},{"start":10.72,"end":11,"text":"Hello?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon met with John B. Connally for a brief exchange in the Old Executive Office Building. The recording is incomplete and consists primarily of introductory greetings, providing no substantial policy discussions or administrative decisions. Consequently, the meeting remains a fragmented, non-substantive record of a private interaction between the two men.","topics":["Presidential communication","John B. Connally","White House Tapes","Executive Office Building"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:39:03.106Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-communication","john-b-connally","white-house-tapes","executive-office-building"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"353-013.mp3","bytes":622549,"durationSec":25.87,"bitrate":192540,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/353-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/353-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/353/conversation-353-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}