{"conversationCode":"354-021","tapeNumber":354,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-354-021","startDateTime":"1972-10-06T18:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-06T18:06:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1972","startTime":"2:06 PM","endDate":"6-Oct-1972","endTime":"2:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On October 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 2:06 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 354-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 354-21\n\nDate: October 6, 1972\nTime: 2:06 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n        World leaders\n           -Reading file\n                -Arnold Toynbee\n                    -Winston S. Churchill, Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle\n                    -Essay","filename":["354-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"354-020","nextCode":"354-022","transcript":[{"start":0.47,"end":16.64,"text":"I had asked for an excerpt from 20B."},{"start":42.1,"end":64.05,"text":"And I, uh, it's, uh, it's between the essay and the title of the book."},{"start":64.07,"end":64.35,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":64.37,"end":65.35,"text":"Would you actually return it to the bigot office?"},{"start":65.37,"end":65.99,"text":"That's what I was going to say."},{"start":66.01,"end":66.37,"text":"What I paid on it."},{"start":66.39,"end":66.89,"text":"I didn't pay that return."},{"start":66.91,"end":67.41,"text":"I didn't, it didn't work."},{"start":67.43,"end":67.85,"text":"It didn't come right."},{"start":67.87,"end":68.33,"text":"Where's the bail on it?"},{"start":68.35,"end":68.61,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":68.63,"end":68.97,"text":"Uh, I don't know."},{"start":69,"end":69.25,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":76.9,"end":79.11,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the retrieval and processing of specific reading materials regarding world leaders, including an essay by Arnold Toynbee. The conversation centers on logistical difficulties in obtaining a requested excerpt from a document. The exchange concludes without a clear resolution regarding the missing materials.","topics":["Arnold Toynbee","World leaders","White House administration","Document management","Rose Mary Woods"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:42:04.871Z"},"topicSlugs":["arnold-toynbee","world-leaders","white-house-administration","document-management","rose-mary-woods"],"audioDurationSec":82,"audioFiles":[{"file":"354-021.mp3","bytes":1966079,"durationSec":81.87,"bitrate":192124,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","transcriptGapSeconds":38,"transcriptGapShare":0.46,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/354-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/354-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/354/conversation-354-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}