{"conversationCode":"354-030","tapeNumber":354,"conversationNumber":30,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-354-030","startDateTime":"1972-10-06T18:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-06T18:35:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1972","startTime":"2:32 PM","endDate":"6-Oct-1972","endTime":"2:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:32 pm and 2:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 354-030 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 354-30\n\nDate: October 6, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:32 pm and 2:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Camp David departure\n                -Manolo Sanchez\n                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 2:35 pm.","filename":["354-030.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"354-029","nextCode":"354-031","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":23.4,"text":"Mr. President, as I was reading over your message, I know that at 4.50, the SBC board is clearing and expecting to hold, perhaps till 4 o'clock, so it can't be until next week, so we'll have to wait and see."},{"start":23.42,"end":24.56,"text":"I was like, I can be close enough to have a session, sir."},{"start":24.58,"end":27.09,"text":"Yeah, I said that she's afraid to get the reception over before 4 o'clock, and I'm hearing this call to the Hill, and I said,"},{"start":28.84,"end":33.72,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to coordinate administrative logistics regarding the President's upcoming departure to Camp David. The discussion focused on aligning the President's schedule with those of First Lady Pat Nixon and staff member Manolo Sanchez. No major policy decisions were made, as the primary objective was ensuring the synchronization of travel arrangements and official appearances.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Camp David","Pat Nixon","White House logistics","Travel coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:42:55.968Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","camp-david","pat-nixon","white-house-logistics","travel-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"354-030.mp3","bytes":875832,"durationSec":36.43,"bitrate":192349,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:25.530Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/354-030.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/354-030","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/354/conversation-354-030","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}