{"conversationCode":"356-013","tapeNumber":356,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-356-013","startDateTime":"1972-09-25T20:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-25T21:16:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Sep-1972","startTime":"4:43 PM","endDate":"25-Sep-1972","endTime":"5:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On September 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:43 pm and 5:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 356-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 356-13\n\nDate: September 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:43 pm and 5:16 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n             Item for Charles W. Colson\n                 -Meeting with the President\n                      -Patrick J. Buchanan\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 5:16 pm.","filename":["356-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"356-012","nextCode":"356-014","transcript":[{"start":8.91,"end":22.49,"text":"I'd like to come back in with Mr. Duquette to request a tour."},{"start":22.51,"end":22.82,"text":"One moment."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unidentified individual in the Old Executive Office Building to facilitate a requested tour of the White House. The brief exchange involved an administrative request for access, seemingly involving a Mr. Duquette. No further policy or strategic developments are recorded in this fragment of the meeting.","topics":["White House tours","Administrative requests","Presidential scheduling","Visitor access"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:46:50.262Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tours","administrative-requests","presidential-scheduling","visitor-access"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"356-013.mp3","bytes":722859,"durationSec":30.05,"bitrate":192420,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/356-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/356-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/356/conversation-356-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}