{"conversationCode":"357-013","tapeNumber":357,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-357-013","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T21:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T21:25:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"5:02 PM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 357-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 357-13\n\nDate: September 21, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n             Presidential gifts\n                 -Unknown woman","filename":["357-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"357-012","nextCode":"357-014","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":23.83,"text":"What did you buy her on that gift thing?"},{"start":23.85,"end":24.17,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":24.19,"end":24.79,"text":"She doesn't have one of those."},{"start":24.81,"end":24.91,"text":"Good."},{"start":30.89,"end":47.47,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the procurement of a specific gift for an unidentified female recipient. The conversation focuses on ensuring the suitability of the item as a presidential gift to avoid potential duplication. The brief exchange concludes with confirmation that the selected gift is appropriate for the individual in question.","topics":["Presidential gifts","Rose Mary Woods","Gift procurement","White House protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:48:17.613Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-gifts","rose-mary-woods","gift-procurement","white-house-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"357-013.mp3","bytes":1209990,"durationSec":50.35,"bitrate":192265,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","transcriptGapSeconds":40,"transcriptGapShare":0.8,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/357-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/357-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/357/conversation-357-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}