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Conversation 357-007

TapeTape 357StartThursday, September 21, 1972 at 2:16 PMEndThursday, September 21, 1972 at 3:15 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose MaryRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AI Summary

President Nixon and personal secretary Rose Mary Woods discuss the security breach at the office of Dr. John C. Lungren and compare George McGovern’s shifting campaign positions to those of Barry Goldwater. Nixon expresses concern regarding the motivations behind the break-in while analyzing the political volatility caused by McGovern's frequent policy changes. The pair discusses these strategic developments in the context of the ongoing presidential campaign.

John C. LungrenBreak-inGeorge McGovernBarry GoldwaterPresidential campaignPolitical strategy
AudioNARA Description

On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:16 pm and 3:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 357-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 357-7

Date: September 21, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:16 pm and 3:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

                                          (rev. Oct-06)

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 2:16 pm and 3:15
pm.

[Conversation No. 357-7B]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 2:16 pm and
3:15 pm.

[Conversation No. 357-7A]

[See Conversation No. 30-13]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

             The President's schedule
                 -Barber

             Break-in of Dr. John C. Lungren’s office
                 -Woods's conversation with unknown person
                 -Possible action

             Issues
                 -Changes in George S. McGovern's position on specific issues
                     -Compared to Barry M. Goldwater
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Oh, Rose, would you ask them to have the fire at 530, please?
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't that really something about London's office?
You know, it's sort of like this.
It's kind of like the conversation you have with your friend, isn't it?
If they're so desperate,
What I'm concerned about from this point of view, and you're very curious, I think that's what makes them make something in.
So if they could put the other guy, you know, I'd give another hand to them.
I think they're that much better.
See your point?
Well, Gary kept his own hardcore, too.
Gary didn't change his position.
He didn't change his position.
His true believers thought he was going to win, but this guy was changing his position so much that he was beginning to get his own believers that were wondering if he was going to jump another jump or not.
Right.
Okay.
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