{"conversationCode":"362-002","tapeNumber":362,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-362-002","startDateTime":"1972-08-04T18:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-04T18:28:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Aug-1972","startTime":"2:23 PM","endDate":"4-Aug-1972","endTime":"2:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Magruder, Jeb Stuart;","description":"On August 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Jeb Stuart Magruder met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:23 pm to 2:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 362-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 362-2\n\nDate: August 4, 1972\nTime: 2:23 pm - 2:28 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Jeb Stuart Magruder.\n\n[See Conversation No. 29-19: one item has been withdrawn]","filename":["362-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Magruder, Jeb Stuart"],"prevCode":"362-001","nextCode":"362-003","transcript":[{"start":15.54,"end":17.46,"text":"All right."},{"start":17.48,"end":25.3,"text":"All right."},{"start":25.32,"end":28.56,"text":"Yeah, we might do it."},{"start":28.58,"end":30.26,"text":"We go off and sit on the ground."},{"start":32.13,"end":35.15,"text":"I feel bothered."},{"start":35.27,"end":35.47,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Jeb Stuart Magruder met briefly to discuss unspecified strategic concerns. The dialogue remains largely indistinct, characterized by vague exchanges regarding a potential course of action and the President's expressed sense of unease. No concrete policy decisions or specific directives were recorded during this brief encounter.","topics":["Watergate investigation","White House strategy","Presidential staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T16:55:51.130Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate-investigation","white-house-strategy","presidential-staff"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"362-002.mp3","bytes":980531,"durationSec":40.8,"bitrate":192260,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.539Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/362-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/362-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/362/conversation-362-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}