Conversation 364-004

TapeTape 364StartThursday, October 5, 1972 at 12:26 PMEndThursday, October 5, 1972 at 1:36 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Sanchez, Manolo;  [Unknown person(s)];  White House operatorRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On October 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:26 pm to 1:36 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 364-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 364-4

Date: October 5, 1972
Time: 12:26 pm - 1:36 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

        The President's October 5, 1972 press conference
            -Press conference
                -Tone
                -John F. Kennedy
            -Tone
                -George S. McGovern
                -John F. Kennedy
                -Contrasted with the President
                     -McGovern
                     -Voice
                         -Radio

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 12:29 pm.

                                       (rev. Oct-06)

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:29 pm.

        Request for briefing book

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:35 pm.

        Issues
            -Amnesty
            -Marijuana
                 -Youth
            -Welfare
                 -Increases
            -Vietnam
                 -Imposition of communist government
            -National defense
                 -US compared to the Union of Soviet Socialist
                  Republics [USSR]
                 -World leadership
            -Economy
                 -Inflation, employment
                 -Tax reform, welfare reform
            -The President's positions contrasted with McGovern's
            -Boston advertisement
            -Focus on issues
                 -The President’s view
            -Increase in television advertisements
                 -Amnesty
                      -Vietnam
                      -Draft dodgers
                           -Veterans view of McGovern
                               -Opposition
                               -Columbus, Ohio
                                    -Factory workers debate with McGovern
                 -Welfare
                      -Effectiveness as issue
                 -Effectiveness of issues
                      -Complexity
                 -Amnesty
                      -Loyalty question
                 -McGovern campaign

                               (rev. Oct-06)

             -Tone
                  -Compared to the President’s
                       -Statesmanship
        -Staff efforts

The President’s secret press conference
    -Jerome R. Waldie
         -Patrick J. Buchanan
         -Support of McGovern
              -California
              -Congress
    -Press coverage
    -Colson’s conversation with Jim Cannon [?]
         -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
              -Comment on October 4, 1972
    -Vietnam
         -Washington Post
         -New York Times, Time, Newsweek, network commentators
              -The press
                  -Importance of issue
    -Press fairness
         -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
    -Watergate
    -New American majority
         -Support for the President
              -Polls
                  -Marvin L. Kolb
    -Taxes
         -Congress
    -Busing
         -Possible constitutional amendment
         -The President’s view compared to McGovern’s
    -Amnesty
    -Welfare
    -National defense
    -Vietnam
    -Busing
         -Possible amendment
         -Presentation of issue
         -McGovern

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Issues
    -Busing
        -Advertisements
            -The President’s instructions
                 -Boston advertisement
                 -St. Louis
            -The President’s view
                 -Compared to McGovern’s
                      -Kindergarten children
                          -Detroit
            -Colson’s efforts
        -Assessing possible damage to McGovern’s campaign

The President’s recent press conference
    -Double standard
        -Effect

Strategy
     -John A. Scali
     -McGovern
     -The President's press conferences
         -Scali’s view
         -Surrogates
         -Value
              -Leadership issue
     -Cabinet officials as spokesmen
         -William P. Rogers
              -Amnesty issue
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
         -The President’s recollection
              -Endorsement of candidates
     -Presentation of amnesty issue
         -Canada
     -Cabinet officials
         -Enthusiasm
     -McGovern
         -Charges against the President's administration
              -White House staff
              -Corruption
         -Defense spending
         -Campaign practices

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        -Previous treatment of Karl E. Mundt
             -[1960 election]
    -Waldie's charges
        -The President’s instructions
             -Advertisements
    -Campaign
        -Tone
             -Compared to the President’s
-The President’s recent press conference
    -Polls
        -George H. Gallup
             -Barry M. Goldwater
    -Andrei A. Gromyko
    -Unknown reporter
        -Effort to recall
             -Questions
                  -Corruption
                  -Vietnam
                       -Negotiated settlement
                       -Bombing
                            -Lyndon B. Johnson
                                 -Bombing halt
                  -Wheat deal
                       -Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI]
                  -Property taxes
                       -Senior citizens
                  -Watergate
                  -Tax increase
                       -Spending ceiling
                  -Polls
                       -Gallup
                  -New American Majority
                  -Press conferences
                       -Radio
                       -Surrogate comment
    -Press conferences
        -Speeches
             -The President’s story about John Foster Dulles
        -Ronald L. Ziegler
             -Political scientists evaluation
        -The President's role as President during campaign period

                                   (rev. Oct-06)

                 -Taxes
                 -Radio
    -Oval Office press conference

The President's schedule
    -Oval Office press conference
        -Congressional adjournment
             -Ohio
             -Congressional adjournment
                  -Timing

National economy
    -Inflation rate
         -Consumer Price Index [CPI]

Issues
    -Vietnam
        -Settlement
             -Public relations

Poll results on issues
     -Massachusetts
         -Unknown poll
         -McGovern proposals
         -Welfare issue
              -$1000 per person
         -National defense
              -USSR
         -Amnesty
              -Harvard University, Massachusetts Institute of
               Technology [MIT]
         -Foreign affairs
              -People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip
              -Vietnam
         -Marijuana legalization
              -Alcohol
         -Busing
              -Liberal leanings
              -Edward M. Kennedy
                   -Numbers
     -California

                                          (rev. Oct-06)

                 -Los Angeles
                 -Orange County
                     -Numbers

Haldeman talked to an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:29 pm and 1:35 pm.

[Conversation No. 364-4B]

        Poll results
             -Los Angeles, Orange County
             -North
             -San Diego, San Bernardino, San Francisco
             -John B. Connally

        Instructions to call Ziegler

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:29 pm and
1:35 pm.

[Conversation No. 364-4A]

[See Conversation No. 31-2]

        Request for a call to Ziegler

        Presidential properties
            -Jim Deakin
            -Jack N. Anderson story
                 -Secret Service
                 -Source
                      -General Services Administration [GSA]

[End of telephone conversation]

             -Modifications
                -Swimming pool glass
                -lighting
                -Telephone lines
                -Heating system

                             (rev. Oct-06)

           -Gas compared to electric
               -Safety reasons
               -Small fire on the premises
   -Florida
       -Shark nets
             -Secret Service
   -Airstrip
       -Helicopter pad
   -Improvements
       -Compared to Johnson
             -Ranch
   -Heating system
       -Electric cost compared to gas cost
       -Source of recommendation on modification
   -Deakin
   -Ziegler
       -Handling of issue
       -Job performance

The President's schedule
    -Columbus Day dinner, October 8, 1972
        -Peter Fosco
    -New York
    -Columbus Day dinner
    -Use of Marine Band
        -George Meany
        -Marine Band, Marine Drum and Bugle Corps
             -Gridiron dinners
                  -Charo
             -Viewing stand for the President
        -Non-political nature
             -Fosco
             -Knights of Columbus
             -President’s remarks
                  -Meany
             -Italians
             -Building trades
                  -Number of members
        -Jay Lovestone
        -R. Sargent Shriver
                  -Colorado

                                      (rev. Oct-06)

               -Upcoming announcement
                   -McGovern
                      -Relationship with Meany
                      -Description as War Hawk

       Shriver
           -Colorado
               -Comments
                   -Votes for the President
                       -Labor leaders

       The President’s recent press conference
           -Agnew
           -Vietnam War
               -Negotiations
                    -Hubert H. Humphrey

       Vietnam War
           -Release of Prisoners of War [POWs]
               -Statement from McGovern
           -Public reaction
               -Enlisted men compared to officers
                    -Blacks
                         -Brig. Gen. Daniel (“Chappie”) James, Jr.
           -League of Families, POW wives
               -McGovern speech

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       The President's schedule

                                     (rev. Oct-06)

           -Henry A. Kissinger
           -Presentation of issues
                -Senior Citizens
           -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] signing ceremony
                -Television coverage
                    -The President’s view
                    -The press
                         -Gromyko

       Issues
           -Wheat deal
               -The President’s recent press conference
                   -Amount of aid to farmers
                   -Trade balance, balance of payments
                   -Creation of jobs
                   -World trade
                   -Iowa survey
           -Time remaining until election
               -McGovern
                   -Tactics
                   -Position
                       -Fringe element
                       -Law and order
                       -Vietnam War
                       -Catholics, Jews
                            -Appeal
                                 -“Old time” politics
                                 -Intensity of support
                                      -Boston
                   -Use of time
                       -Mudslinging
                   -Charges against the President
                       -Corruption
                            -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
                            -Possible backfire on McGovern

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       Issues
           -Veterans education bill
               -Benefits
                   -Call to Colson from an unknown person
                   -Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
                   -Amount
                   -Administration's position
                   -Young veterans

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       Issues
           -Agnew’s recent statements
              -Foreign policy
                  -Isolationism
                       -Internationalism
                            -Credibility of comments
                  -Peace
                       -USSR, PRC
                            -Effectiveness as issue
                                 -McGovern
                  -Credibility

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         [Unintelligible]

         Campaign practices
            -Buttons
                -Similarities to swastika
                -Slogan
                     -Century Plaza demonstration
                     -Adolf Hitler
            -Anne L. Armstrong

Colson left at 1:35 pm.

         The President’s recent press conference
             -Kissinger
                 -Kissinger’s concern
                      -Transcript

Haldeman left at 1:36 pm.

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I thought it was a masterful job, this prison.
I don't know who else did it.
I always wondered how you managed it.
The moral reason is that they came down here.
They're all about the same.
They don't vary that much.
The thing is that people forget at one time no matter how long you stand there.
Put yourself in the mood that happens to just coincide with the team.
I've seen the rest of you, and you've been angry when you should have been angry.
Today, you were packing a mess, probably.
It was a spectacular put-down.
But when the governor did it, we were getting this campaign.
I just made it on as soon as I could.
You knew the boy had to do it.
I'm sure.
Oh, absolutely.
That's why I find it so important to get the tone of your voice to be accurate.
Are they accurate?
They don't give you the credit.
They don't give us the credit, really.
The talent of that was just a masterpiece.
And the voice, the voice told those who are listening, it's just gone.
It's an old, stark contrast to the voice of George Middleton.
It's the only time I hear it.
I mean, he was 20 years old when I met him.
He was born with it.
It's hysterical.
It's hysterical.
It's an hysterical monitor.
I mean, some people can be hysterical and great and even passionate.
It's like, he doesn't want it because he gets it.
Because he's got a monitor.
He's got a double, double wish to get one of them.
And he starts getting sure of it.
And he doesn't do it.
He doesn't pull it off.
He's got more energy.
I wonder what they're doing.
about really concentrating.
Bring that book that I sent out to my mother.
Find it and bring it back to me.
Did you read it?
Did I read it?
Read the book.
Yeah.
Check.
There are only four issues that are real winners.
One is amnesia.
All right.
A second thing that's a real winner is marijuana.
It should be used.
Don't worry about the kids.
Use it.
The third most real winner is putting more people on welfare.
That's a related question to it.
That makes it to welfare.
The fourth most real winner is impose a communist government in South Vietnam.
And the third most real winner is reduce American defenses so that we're second to the Russians.
There it is.
What I want to do is to have people miss make that speech.
There are five.
These are five great.
Don't get into the business.
Who's going to be the world leader?
Who's going to be the domestic leader?
And so forth and so on.
Now we can say yes.
We have cut.
We're going to continue.
continue to cut, uh, uh, uh, we're trying to continue to fight the rise of the cost of living and continue to close taxes.
We're going to continue to stand for welfare reform, tax reform, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You see what I mean?
When you come down to it, in terms of winners, in stark contrast, he's for Amherst, I'm against it.
He's for legalizing marijuana, I'm against it.
That gets the association.
He's for, he's for, but you also,
He's for increasing spending, so he's for a tax increase by increasing spending.
I'm against it.
He is for cutting the fences so that we're second to the Soviet Union.
I am for staying ahead of the Soviet Union.
I am for America number one.
He's for imposing a communist government on the people of South Vietnam.
I'm against the communist government.
He's for a communist government in South Vietnam.
I'm against it.
I'm against it.
If you can get those things across,
We started to make some yardage on him, son of a bitch.
And nailing him for that and having him talk about those things.
I thought your ass was good in Boston.
But I doubt anybody did have a lot of attention to him.
You know how it is out there.
I still run.
I still run.
If I venture to get to him, he may start pinching me.
But you see, the reason that he's hitting me is the most deceitful thing.
All the rest of us face it.
He doesn't want to talk about these issues.
They're all losers for me.
Bob, you've got to step up the government on both issues.
See, we don't have an amnesty act, you know that?
Basically, if you're a Jew who doesn't believe in amnesty, it comes into that podium.
I won't let them do it.
If I have one, amnesty alone.
Well, I'm not so sure you're going to get it if you don't have an amnesty.
All right.
Okay.
Amnesty is a personal thing.
You have a guy coming home from Vietnam, and maybe he's got his arm in the sand.
What guy?
You lost him.
I lost an arm in Vietnam.
serving my country.
And I am against McCartney because he'd give amnesty to the filigree doctors and the deserters.
Yep, that'll turn the people on.
But the other way, he'd go through and pick up your line by saying, fortunately, I've come back, but a lot of my friends had to die for their choice.
He's got a guy that lives in Canada that's got to live with their choice.
They don't deserve that.
They don't deserve it.
And I'd buy a whole given amnesty.
Well, I suppose that's the name of the document.
No, he won't do it again.
He won't get caught again.
Bob, the point that I make is this.
We have two good ads.
I know that the welfare is good because it's ID.
I agree with you.
I don't agree with you.
Don't underestimate what gets to people.
What gets to them?
Some of them don't get welfare.
They may understand being number two.
That's a little complicated.
It's basically the loyalty.
You've got to pay this son of a bitch.
That's what he is.
He's disloyal to this country.
You don't ever say it.
That's the whole road.
I hit that.
Now I'm cracking everybody.
The low road gutter.
He's in the gutter.
Nixon's not going to get off the high road.
The high road of statesmanship to get in the gutter.
Our people have good things going on.
Maybe we're giving our people too much.
I don't know.
I think you get it because people, as much as you want to, they aren't capable of using the same thing over and over again.
All right, I can't do it.
All right, good show.
Chuck, in terms of subtlety, you can see why it was better to use the roll than the way I did it, the way you can.
I always said, the Congressman, Jerry Walden, the liberal Democrat, and all of them.
I'm sure they might put it all together.
You're going to be beautiful.
I already know.
I'm going to let you in on it.
I'm going to let you in on it.
I'm going to let you in on it.
I'm going to let you in on it.
I'm going to let you in on it.
I think you're right.
They may not use it.
I would bet they don't use it.
They may not use it because they don't want to.
They haven't used it all yet.
Except for that one real quick.
Well, that was a full can that was going in.
Why doesn't a person use a can of wood?
I don't know why a person uses a can of wood.
Yeah, but let's go right to it.
I can't really see it.
Why doesn't a person use a can of wood?
So he did this, he did another trial in Vietnam, I frankly established, and I named the Washington Post, the New York Times, the New Street Times, and the three commentators, not the appropriate commentators, the commentators all said Vietnam.
So I did a three-part, and then I said, and then when we mined, they said it was a frame-up, or they were wrong.
And I said, now they say it didn't do any good, but I didn't think they were correct.
Well, that's a hell of a devastating thing, which I should say.
Now, you guys, you'll get a whimper on the price of an armchair or a few others.
But, God damn it, you may not.
Price is a fair man.
But, you know, everybody that wants it.
I would take the press on at times.
God damn it, they're taking us on.
Well, the critics, you didn't explain the right side of anybody.
No, you didn't.
He said, you know, he asked about it.
He asked about it.
He said it up.
He said it up.
Right.
He didn't make a note of it.
Not one note.
He didn't kill her.
He didn't ask her for the person getting an answer.
Every one of those questions, is it one of the rest of the questions?
Especially at the end, we close the circle and frame the issue.
The only one in there that's in the watergate, who did we get that from?
It doesn't hurt.
It doesn't help.
Every other one of these guys, it's a ridiculous question.
But that, that, that, that, every point that we wanted to do, our majority, our, you know, the way it's mandated by this law, talk about the majority, that's what we're questioning.
That's why we have to bring it.
Also, I struck Gallup with a nice ticket, you know, but I didn't get around to that.
It's scary to that.
Also, set up a weeding center, which is the other thing, to start predicting very low figures.
All the property, all the property.
Right, Bob?
Yeah.
The tax rate.
Beautiful.
Distinguished between the presidential tax interest and the Russian tax interest.
That's what it is.
On that last point, how did I get into that kind of thing?
I had it written down.
You said busing is certainly, I was like, where are you going to go for the constitutional amendment?
You said, well, first of all, I'm against busing.
As a matter of fact, that's one of the principal issues.
There's a lot of differences between us here.
For instance, I'm opposed to busing, and our opponents are poor.
I'm opposed.
And then you started down the list, and then you dragged everything in.
And I took it all against Amnesty.
I'm against Amnesty.
I'm against putting more people on the road, putting more people on the road.
It's cutting in 30 places.
It's cutting national defense.
You should have said 30 places.
It's cutting national defense to the point where we should be second.
And perhaps in closing the Congress, the government may get that in.
Yes, that's right.
These are clear conditions.
Did I say that?
No, I'm busting this.
Which was never approved.
Whichever, I didn't get stuck in the Constitution.
I said we'll come back to legislation again, which is probably happening in the country.
If you can't get legislation, you'll never get an amendment.
But you made the point of why.
I mean, why not, but why is...
We can't go to the event in person.
We can't.
We're so well off on that bus initiative.
A few months ago, I was going to say, right now, you don't need it.
Because in the areas where it counts, the summit that you're doing with me, he's got a quote, which we'll have to stick with.
It's right there.
That's what it's named, right?
Where he said, hell, I'm going to do it.
Put it in.
There's only one thing I saw on the cross tonight that I could not figure out.
I would say and then put it in a big, bold type of quote so everybody can see what he said.
See?
The ad was very badly done.
The Boston ad was a total disaster.
The St. Louis ad is better.
Closer to right.
We'll get it right.
Oh, it's hard if anybody believes it.
If anybody believes in the ad,
It's impulsive, but it's having legal hands serving it up on one side.
What about the advertising men who don't believe in the subject?
They can believe in the ad.
But you don't know how to present it right.
Could I strongly urge?
Could I strongly urge?
Could I strongly urge?
Could I strongly urge?
Put the quote in large language.
Don't have too much on the page.
Have one great page.
Don't make four points.
Make one and have it in large language.
The truth is only one in one minute.
Is that right?
No.
What's wrong with the whole busing of children?
President Nixon, and you can say, here's what the candidates say on busting.
What's wrong with busting, President Nixon?
Busting kindergarten children, 45 minutes for an hour and a half a day is wrong.
That's why I oppose busting.
or something like that.
I had cold busting, for example, I said.
But the depredator, which required busting with kindergarten children for 45 minutes, is morally wrong for the doctor to take off with them out of camp.
You know what I'm saying?
You understand?
The staff said that if you're for a busting, vote for McGovern.
If you're against busting, vote for Nixon.
And that's what I'd write the answer to.
I mean, I could write it without them having to give me a chance.
I tried to be a gunman, but I thought, well, I don't know what it is to write the end.
I don't know what it was.
The only end you ever had was the end of what I wrote.
It was all about us.
No, I didn't know what it was.
It was hard to write, but everybody knows too much.
Everybody knows too much.
The thought that delighted me was to stick to it.
That was it.
It's so irritating.
Do you think they're irritating?
No.
I don't think they're smart enough for me.
They've done it for me.
I think they're smart.
They're smart.
I'm a graduate.
It was funny how many of them laughed.
Because you didn't really have a circus.
You did a little twisting.
But also, when I said,
and I know you and I want you to stand apart from that candidate this time.
I don't want to crowd you up.
You better just kill somebody.
We're getting back to the strategy.
You better reveal that.
I thought it was a good idea to have the scholars and the legislature on it.
My inclination is that the best answer is bullshit, but it's not the press, but the veterans.
They need to do a couple half-ass things on the press conference.
They can't do it in Congress.
They won't answer that question.
Apparently they do it in Congress.
Are we going to get the hell out of the question?
No.
Well, then how will we talk about it?
You don't have any purpose at all.
That's what scholars are like.
They say we don't.
You don't make sense.
It makes sense.
I hope so.
It's a good, it's a good, you gotta do something.
Yeah.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
It is.
It's a good thing.
That's, I've never had a press conference this great.
Every press conference has helped.
It doesn't matter to us.
Not just, not just help.
Especially this group, Mr. Kirsten, when I serve, it's, you know, the last two days have been kind of rough, I guess.
Right.
And that's the, you know, just the way it's been going.
That's the other thing, as a voice, we often talk about is the value of the press conference.
Yeah.
Yeah, leadership.
That's a leadership device.
And it's better than calling them in.
Here's what the warning is.
It's an auditorium and all that stuff.
If you help me, I'm going to tell you what's going on.
I'm going to tell you what's going on.
I'm going to tell you what's going on.
So that's not very deliberate.
Okay, he can't.
Be careful on that.
Don't try and sell it because he doesn't believe in it.
Don't do anything on him because if he doesn't, he won't do it.
It's like Eisenhower.
Like Eisenhower.
You could never sell Eisenhower on cutting anybody up because he didn't feel comfortable.
And he did it very badly.
He grit his teeth.
It was obvious.
He didn't like to endorse a candidate he didn't like.
He grit his teeth.
It was obvious.
You can't undo it.
So don't do it, Joe.
Let's get the embassy into another embassy.
You've just got to listen to Joe on that.
Look, you've got to remember that most of this is an issue that needs out.
You never know.
You may have a role.
There are a lot of hard people that have gotten these parts off of Canada.
You know what I'm saying?
Some of our contributors have.
But they can't help it.
They're sorry and they're ashamed.
What the hell can they do?
But they can't ask that to go out.
Why, of course, they can't go out and say, hey, it's fun to go back to Canada or Iraq.
I mean, I think that only happens if it's done by the president, which is good.
You reset the line.
I agree.
It helps get the rest of our people charged up.
For three weeks, we had a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of cries, and I think most of our animals sort of deal with it.
The problem is we're cranking our people this weekend with just a shot.
I thought it was even worse.
This most deceitful president.
That was very personal.
You didn't say corrupt.
You said it was deceitful.
You're on a defending bench.
You're on a defending bench.
You're on a defending bench.
He's a hater.
He's a hater.
He's a guy who has this moral righteousness and self-righteousness that makes him think.
He doesn't read.
He doesn't consciously read.
He doesn't judge himself by the standards that he judges other people.
He doesn't raise the question of whether he can do the right thing, but he criticizes other people.
And he did this to Carmel.
He did this to Griffin, who wrote it.
And in fact, the right thing.
I think we ought to get the idea across to these mean, vicious people.
If it was Rowley, then I would re-premise an ad to push it.
See, I always love to do this right now.
I don't want to ruin it for TV.
That's right.
That's why I didn't mention his name.
If you do it too late, you might create whatever catch up.
Well, let's see.
I'm Joe from America.
I've been in the gutter, too.
That's the other thing.
That's the only thing I do, too.
Not this campaign.
I'd say, hey, go that way.
Chris is not going to do it.
So, you know, one technique that I think is very good in office press conferences, it's really good in office press conferences, is always to just sometimes sort of drop into the little, you never get out of the region, but it's a nation, because they don't really have the feelings or anything.
I started to set the mood for the thing by answering the question by sort of going up and asking about gold, talking about what galloped it, gold water, and so forth.
Why a person ahead has greater problems than somebody behind.
There's no other question I could answer.
There was one other one.
I said,
Right in the front, to the right.
I thought I saw it right in front of me, but it wasn't.
I think the American people got involved.
You know about the American guy in about the middle?
Very good example of a technique that should be used by people.
I have two questions, and I'm going to figure out both.
The corruption question, and the predictions of the people with the body, and the predictions of the people with the justice system, and the justice people, the legal people.
Your answer would be that you've managed to
For example, in the old roads, I made it up.
I made it clear that the idea of letting them listen to this and all this, they had very interesting talking to people.
And I made them older people receiving messages, and I made it clear that they were going to talk to them.
And what an unfair version that is.
And they don't think that you're in this.
What are you doing?
I think we've got a couple of questions.
Oh, yeah, no.
When I explained, when I told the real story about Dulles,
That's a fascinating story, but yet, the pretty part of it is smart they picked out this one.
They hate the right speech, but I never regret it, because the speech just was mine.
That's a hell of a good story to begin with.
That's what I mean by things that go little noticed by anybody there.
They all make up the heart.
It's not news at all.
That's a good point.
That's something that political scientists ask all the teachers on the face of the earth today.
Something like that.
First of all, you were asking the question, is the press conference a good way to use the argument about how you can hold this together?
I don't think it does.
It drags up to that point.
What he's really saying
Well, when I said that I'm going to stay here and fight the battle against high taxes, that was more important than campaigning.
Unfortunately, that's the kind of thing that's great on television.
And this is going to come through out of this restaurant.
The radio, the radio.
That's right.
But people are writing this up.
We'll go back and say the president's not going to go out and campaign here.
He's going to stay home.
So you're the one, you're the one right here with all this confidence.
Sure.
We'll put it on our Saturday night speech.
But the more I think about it, I do feel that this election for the office conference is going to be
We just began a couple of weeks.
I will go next week.
I will park this boat and wait.
Well, I hear we'll go next week.
You know, the Congress, they want to wait another week, wait until after Congress is gone, right?
One, two, or three weeks.
They'll go next week.
Well, you may not want to wait until after next week because then they stay here.
Well, wait until after next week.
Consider the possibility of going back the following week.
What week would that be, what day is it on?
The week of the 15th.
You can go and say on the 19th.
That's the week that's going to be supposed to be the center of the country.
Ohio on the 21st.
That would be a Saturday.
That's what we were going to do on the 17th.
Not that we could do it on the 19th.
Really?
All right.
Yes, sir.
By that time.
We already need to move up there.
That's right.
We need to move up there early and we can do it as a.
And right after, if Congress goes home on the 14th, they can do it after, do it on the 17th, Tuesday.
I think, you know, I think Thursday's a better day.
Wait, let them out.
Let them get the hell out for two days.
Yeah, that's right.
Let's attempt to listen to a crisis that comes on Friday.
Oh, shit, I'm surprised.
None of these things mean anything.
Maybe those fakers here are all overreacting, talking to me about it.
Well, they didn't.
When they were bad, they did something.
Yeah.
When they were bad, they had something.
Yeah, I know.
But now they eat.
Now they don't.
They don't get as much credit.
They say, well, I'll cut the down.
All you don't have to do is cut the rate of inflation in half.
Boom.
And we're going to continue to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
As you can consume a cereal that is, some of your consumers are all showing public feeling a hell of a lot better if they had more money to spend than they're spending right now.
I won't be able to say what it's going to be in September.
That's what we have.
People feel better about their health.
So it's a plus to the economy.
People feel better about their health.
I'm not going to worry about it.
It's important to get across to the faculty here.
I'm not going to do that myself.
I'm not going to do that myself.
I'm not going to do that myself.
I'm not going to do that myself.
I'm not going to do that myself.
I'm not going to do that myself.
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But what's interesting is on the issue thing, on the question, do you agree or disagree with the positive rules that Senator Kerr has put on the point?
That on the promise of your every man, every woman, child, they would expect these taxes to be 338, disagree 49, which is a fairly high agreement on the welfare question.
That's right.
That's why the defense act must be run in Massachusetts.
I don't know.
I wish you may not be conditional on asking, but I do want a personal photograph.
Version 360.
What's the date of invention?
Actually, it's 27.
Stronger than that.
No, no, no, no, no.
There you've got Harvard and MIT and all the rest of them.
That's right.
That's still damn strong.
Yeah.
And the date?
The year we were drawn to it was mid-October.
I was trying to indicate my date, but it's already been erased.
What date did you do it at?
2960.
It's the same as national, 3062, Massachusetts is supposed to be the big.
That'll be a lot of students, correct?
They're all on the same line of staff on 2857 in Massachusetts.
That's way, that's quite a bit lower, nationally it's 2570.
There's more undecided in Massachusetts.
Los Angeles School of Children is the central regime,
And again, that's weaker than that.
It's kind of interesting that Massachusetts is one nation that's far more liberal on the specifics of government.
If he didn't have the Kennedy thing around him, we'd carry Massachusetts for sure.
We'd carry Massachusetts.
That would be a long trip.
I mean, it's a very good trip.
And get him to California.
California is 51.37.
We don't know what they're doing.
What was the other one?
But you see, San Diego will be with us, San Francisco and the rest.
It's closer to the Northern California, in fact, it's the Bay Area.
It's even in the south end.
You can comment on it, but I have that Southern syndrome.
The Democrats are there.
You can probably see what they're getting from these assholes over there.
I mean, I realize that because I know who they are.
I'm not saying it's what they're writing, but I'll say for a brief moment,
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Oh, it's a perfect thing.
I said, okay, forget about that.
The only way that this item, they tore up the goddamn house, they made us put it, they put in, they put in, you know that big glass thing that was running cool?
They put the fucking thing in because it's a, to keep them from jumping.
All that, all the big, ugly lights and the lawn, that's put into the purpose of that.
All of it.
They dug up the grounds to put in this telephone wires and the little shocks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't let up with the heating thing.
In fact, I argued against it, if you recall.
You had a super heating system.
I know what the grade was.
Why do you know?
Because it was gas.
It was gas heat, and they were afraid of the gas thing blowing up or something.
They didn't want the gas heating system in there.
It has no funny laws.
It's a bunch of bullshit.
I mean, gas heating is just a state that's a lot better than it's a hell of a lot better than it could go up.
And the irony of it is, after they put all the electric in, I was going to say you had a fire.
Well, they should have heard of the fire, though.
They had a fire there.
Yeah.
We just restored it again.
Restored it again.
We don't want any.
We are very careful on this.
We are getting proper things that need to be done.
In Florida, we put out a net out there to keep the goddamn sharks out of the water.
Well, that's better than seeing a shark swim
It's all the stuff that's there.
It's way less than the kinds of things that you're talking about.
Very sensitive.
And it's not been that long.
Yeah, that's because, you know, it's been angled at all.
Let me say that that is one.
Well, that's also, that's also a nice monitor.
That's got a bar.
Whoa.
That's right there.
I don't think that's going to work.
That's going to be one of those.
I didn't want, I didn't prefer it.
I preferred the gas.
It had an excellent heating system.
It was their idea, Bob.
It wasn't ours.
It had a score.
Do you remember?
I sure as hell do.
Because that's when I already got that.
Because that was my father's business.
I didn't know something about heating.
Okay?
But the Secret Service was always their idea and not mine at all.
And I saw it.
And Deacon really pushed me.
They just don't realize what an asset that boy is.
They're about to go bust.
Well, they did bust him, but that doesn't mean she's done wrong.
I'm trying to do the, uh, brush movement.
Great.
The best one.
Also, Bob is good at not rushing in the yard, maybe right now.
He's good.
Thanks.
He's moving up there a bit.
He won't.
That's what I would have said.
Don't put them in the race.
Put them in the coach position.
They don't have the band.
Oh, I'm sorry.
They don't have the band.
Oh, well, you can't do it without a presence.
Why don't you get somebody?
Who's putting on ?
You get them to request the .
Right.
Request the waiver and .
You don't have to come up and do that .
Let's do that.
How's that?
And then we'll have to do the pre-shaping.
You know, let them go on the show for us.
People will love how we do it.
We'll be terrible, you know, for the production.
Well, you're terrible.
You're really terrible.
But did you realize, have you ever been to that?
No.
The Marvel Center.
We've already been there.
The Philadelphia Center.
We've been there.
We've been there.
Another one, of course.
These are fun.
I used to do them all.
I had great fun.
If you want to hear it, just throw it around.
I don't know.
But Bob, that's an excellent idea.
I have a request.
That they have the Marines back, the Marines back.
From the people who already approved it, right?
That's the last thing that I'll do.
That's how I want the person to be.
Oh, boy.
I'd like to be in, though.
After I go in, I'd like to go in and see the people who are going to get it.
What do you think for you to be there for?
Yeah, that's a good idea, good guy.
Okay, I don't know what kind of .
I mean, you're coming to .
Why don't you do this?
As the president of .
I think you better say the president is thinking of coming.
dropping by and his remarks would be totally non-political, but we didn't.
What he doesn't want is for me to be embarrassed.
And in that case, I'm going to put him to death.
See what I mean?
I'm going to be embarrassed.
He will not be sent away.
He will not mention one political thing.
He will only praise the Knights of Columbus and the gospel.
Fair enough.
Huh?
And I tell you, and all building rights leaders who have been to this island and watched the world go to hell.
There's no way to tell.
All right, Boston.
Yes, yes, yes.
650,000 members in the unit.
I think if you could call, I believe you could call Jay Bostrom for a second.
No, he's injured.
Yeah, he's injured.
He's been invited.
He dropped by.
He wanted to take you to drop you by.
He doesn't.
He wants you.
He didn't know that you made him drop by.
And I didn't want him to be very embarrassed by it.
But no, we need to set up a game.
He's trying to run into the car.
Well, he did.
He has now made an account with the police, but meaning may be, in the next few weeks, announced support.
Therefore, he may not want to be in debt, which makes it look like that was part of it.
Now, you saw him in the government's lawsuit.
He didn't have anything.
I don't know if you've seen this out there.
A new lawsuit.
The government finally said that one guy was totally broken and sick with the injury.
It's done through.
He's had it.
He doesn't like me because I'm not a war hawk.
And because he can't control me.
And because he can't control me.
He's a war hawk and you can control him.
I'm trying to, yeah.
The government's saying he doesn't like me because he can't control me.
And because he can't control me.
They tried to revisit the car when I was racing them in the Jesus of the Jackets.
They said they didn't have a visit.
They canceled it.
They said they weren't on and off for a week.
They finally went today.
They said any way for the leader to tell you to go to Paris, he has to just tell you that he's waiting on you.
Which makes Paul a little bit of an insubordinate.
Because of the power of Jesus.
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He said negotiations on the lease of prison should be handled by the government, not by the leasing groups.
And I said, yes, I accepted their opinion.
But I didn't agree with them.
And he said, I think that all of these things should be handled through the government sources.
It's very solid, very about of the uniform and all that.
And so it's charming to them.
And sometimes people who suffer a lot, you know, you can't help it.
Thank God they were officers.
You see, that's pretty good.
We've got a lot of police men out there and a lot of blacks and so forth.
Those are the ones who kicked out.
You hear that?
You hear that?
I mean, you've got a black person.
I know a shaky one, but he is a black officer.
He's got something to do.
It's a little shaky, but it's pretty clear.
It's something back there that all of them have decided.
They didn't decide it together.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
You know in a sense,
If you think about how this was spent a couple of days, and it was spent only yesterday, it's funny.
Just to worry around and figure out what to say to the old boys.
Is there a better time?
It's better.
Except we've been stolen.
We've got to go.
Get the television and the signing ceremonies.
That's right.
Those are damn good things.
And the newspapers decided that that was one too many signing ceremonies.
So, put it in the back somewhere, the TV.
Have you given it a run?
It was too many signings.
Okay, go there.
That's all we did, sir.
Well, that's the whole point of the World Trade.
We decided that's not the other side of the train.
But I was certainly.
So I'm not sure it's all shit.
Okay, let's see.
The other pole.
Yeah, there it is.
Right, that's true.
He did very little in this place, but it was possible.
You know, he's hitting so hard.
You know, he's now, he's done everything, sending hundreds of people back to him.
But yeah, he kept the law and everything out.
He kept the peace thing out.
He's come out for the Catholics, and he's come out for the Jews.
So, you know, these things are all...
They all, the people who vote these things now, just have to realize that's the old kind of politics.
Look at it.
We vote for four weeks from very young.
But look at it at this viewpoint.
Look at the intensity of what we've had.
And we've quietly controlled the election.
And he's going to the rallies very much.
How are they going to ease it?
He gets $35,000 in Boston and everybody says he's got an enormous crowd and all that.
But he can only do that so many times.
Then you've got to get a bigger crowd.
The next time he gets $30,000, they're going to say his crowd wasn't as big as Boston.
Most of the months when he didn't have any of that, the last 10 days, he didn't have any of that.
Well, that's when he has to escalate.
You've got to keep copying yourself each day.
And where's he going to top himself?
It's hard to imagine how he's going to get better.
Also, you have a lot of time.
So what did that say?
You can't, you can't attack the President of the United States because he's going back and people don't want to get in the way.
Like the Cook County Sheriff.
It's harder to keep up.
Yeah, it's harder to keep up.
People just don't buy that.
It's the most corrupt.
How did it go?
Another thing I asked you to tell me about, I don't know what you did, about veterans, what do you call it, I didn't ask about it, but it is the rest of these veterans, young veterans.
So we're all forced to do a job that we've done.
I suppose this is a routine thing.
We had a .
It's all been in .
This is wonderful.
It's been horrible.
This is the education .
We got .
Our young veterans .
They find the same thing.
The young Vietnam veterans are solidly and solidly accepting that they're doing anything they can to help their father's country and that they are.
And this is, this is, this bill will help us find some kind of option.
What is he doing?
He reacts.
I'm not an isolationist.
I'm going to do more about bringing peace to the Soviet Union in China.
Which brings in the Soviet Union in China.
I would never acknowledge the existence of the Soviet Union in China.
It is so unbelievable that the public is going to buy it.
Do you want to look at the moisture level?
Why do you look at it like that?
It's about as true as I was thinking.
It looks like a spot.
Really?
What do you mean?
Well, it's the pattern of the earth.
Pattern, yeah.
The little patterns were basically the squares or the humps that can be looked like spots to you.
I don't know if it's going to work, but I'm sure it will.
It's ready to work.
That's one of the badges they were selling in the century.
It says, if you like Hitler, go to our place.
And the X, it makes it into the swastika instead of the X.
It's still doing that, though.
I don't know much about it.
It was a demonstrator in the 1980s.
You know what I think, Bob?
You were right in not being
not putting this off because of Henry's concern.
It wouldn't have been their fault if they hadn't done it.
I said it doesn't bother them.
I don't care.
I've talked to them.
I'm going through it.
But basically, if there is, you're just looking for excuses.
You want to meet with Monterey and say, I'm going through the transcript by every syllable.
That's all right.
OK.