{"conversationCode":"364-005","tapeNumber":364,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-364-005","startDateTime":"1972-10-05T17:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-05T18:05:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Oct-1972","startTime":"1:36 PM","endDate":"5-Oct-1972","endTime":"2:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On October 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 2:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 364-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 364-5\n\nDate: October 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:36 pm and 2:05 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President dictated a statement.\n\n         Harrison McCall\n             -Memorial service\n                 -The President's 1946 campaign manager\n                 -The President’s election to Congress\n                 -Advisor and friend\n                 -Birth of Tricia Nixon, February 21, 1946\n                      -Location\n                           -Murphy Memorial Hospital, Whittier\n                           -Campaign\n                               -Los Angeles\n                               -University Club\n                 -Nixon family\n                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox\n                           -Weddings\n                               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                 -The President’s view of McCall","filename":["364-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"364-004","nextCode":"364-006","transcript":[{"start":1.6,"end":29.03,"text":"From the day, for as long as I can remember, we have always considered Harrison to be a member of our family."},{"start":29.05,"end":30.05,"text":"He was my father's first campaign manager in 1946."},{"start":30.07,"end":30.61,"text":"I ran for Congress in 1947."},{"start":30.63,"end":31.39,"text":"I made a successful race for Congress."},{"start":40.19,"end":63.14,"text":"My father is one of the closest to those providers."},{"start":63.16,"end":64.18,"text":"My father is one of the closest to those providers."},{"start":64.2,"end":65.22,"text":"My father is one of the closest to those providers."},{"start":82.23,"end":109.69,"text":"I was born on February 31, 1946."},{"start":109.71,"end":110.55,"text":"My father wanted me to be in the hospital."},{"start":110.57,"end":111.35,"text":"At the time, I was with my first grade."},{"start":111.37,"end":111.71,"text":"He was not there."},{"start":115.93,"end":124.28,"text":"Well, that's just the first flight."},{"start":124.3,"end":125.13,"text":"The chair is falling a bit, but I'm fine."},{"start":143.47,"end":165.22,"text":"I arrived a little earlier than expected."},{"start":165.24,"end":165.76,"text":"As a result, I'm bothered."},{"start":213.18,"end":239.59,"text":"We're going to take a small way out."},{"start":239.61,"end":240.17,"text":"Of course, we're very small."},{"start":240.19,"end":240.87,"text":"We're going to take a short route."},{"start":256.6,"end":282.89,"text":"On the day... We, uh, won the election for Congress."},{"start":282.91,"end":283.97,"text":"On the day my daughter won the election for Congress."},{"start":283.99,"end":284.53,"text":"First of all... Saturday..."},{"start":285.13,"end":300.19,"text":"$25.30."},{"start":300.21,"end":302.51,"text":"I'm going to ask you for compensation for the fact that the person who did this is not the person I thought it was."},{"start":302.53,"end":303.07,"text":"There are stories about it."},{"start":316.4,"end":319.51,"text":"You guys should go."},{"start":319.53,"end":320.12,"text":"I wish you all the very best."},{"start":345.85,"end":361.26,"text":"I love you all."},{"start":375.18,"end":395.4,"text":"My father thought he was sick, but he, uh, I moved it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictated a memorial statement to honor Harrison McCall, his long-time friend and original 1946 congressional campaign manager. The reflection highlights McCall’s integral role in the President’s early political career and his enduring, family-like relationship with the Nixon household. The dictated remarks serve as a personal tribute to McCall's loyalty and influence during the formative years of Nixon's political life.","topics":["Harrison McCall","Nixon political career","1946 campaign","Memorial tribute","Personal history"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:01:17.791Z"},"topicSlugs":["harrison-mccall","nixon-political-career","1946-campaign","memorial-tribute","personal-history"],"audioDurationSec":567,"audioFiles":[{"file":"364-005.mp3","bytes":13619617,"durationSec":567.43,"bitrate":192019,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.874Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:27.253Z","transcriptGapSeconds":203,"transcriptGapShare":0.36,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/364-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/364-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/364/conversation-364-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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