Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 368-005
Date: Tuesday, October 17, 1972 at 2:10 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Sanchez, Manolo; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Sanchez, Manolo
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-005

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[0:00] Sir, I want you to go out to Corruption Front today.
[0:21] We'll be quiet on Corruption Front.
[0:22] I think we can have a self-example.
[0:23] Bicyclists there, just waiting out, dropped the other shoe, and they got to where they got to figure it out.
[0:25] You know, it's the way that all last-minute snares, they pull the brake for the last minute.
[0:27] They don't have to, but...
[0:28] ... ... ... ...
[0:54] who had the entire White House, and also just, I think, a period of time, I was aware of all the questions of truth.
[0:57] But I don't think he's satisfied with the issues he has to deal with personally.
[0:59] Brad, oh, the postman.
[0:59] I'm a doctor.
[0:59] I'm in the post.
[1:00] They intimidated me when I started this morning.
[1:01] Of course they did.
[1:25] They said time will tell.
[1:47] Our locations are in time.
[1:47] I said, hold up.
[1:47] I was still watching the coast.
[1:48] I said, I was actually watching the coast.
[1:49] He said, oh, perfect.
[1:49] He said, how are you doing?
[1:51] He said, I've been to a lot of countries.
[2:12] He said, I've been to 42 states.
[2:13] I said, 42?
[2:13] I said, what about the Russians?
[2:14] I said, what issue do you really have?
[2:15] I said, more than anything else, the government's voice and his voice.
[2:16] I said, his government's voice?
[2:17] I said, his lifestyle?
[2:17] He said, well, he said, just, it's kind of the way he is.
[2:18] He said, he just, he thought it was the same thing like the first weeks.
[2:21] He had a little bit of a prissy walk.
[2:40] I said, a little bit of a prissy walk.
[2:41] A little bit of a prissy.
[2:41] And I said, well, what about, you know, I don't know.
[2:42] And he said, you know, I don't like it.
[2:43] He said, you know, I don't like it.
[2:44] He said, you know, I don't like it.
[2:45] But he said, it was just something that was posted.
[3:02] And he said, I'm thinking about it.
[3:03] And I said, I thought it was great.
[3:04] I thought it was good.
[3:04] He said, you're not in California.
[3:05] He said, well, that's not what I thought.
[3:06] I thought it was helpful.
[3:06] He said, well, I heard about it.
[3:07] He said, they were going to read it.
[3:08] And I said, yeah, I did.
[3:08] But he's never done anything in the city with me.
[3:09] And he started doing it in the city with me.
[3:11] And he said, so even though he may not agree with us, we trust him.
[3:32] And he said, he said he'd give us an hour and a half period and we'd go.
[3:33] And he said, you never want us to speak so late in the conversation.
[3:35] And then God asked us, after a while, he said, can we just trust the man?
[3:36] And we were like, oh, but hey, he was, he was there.
[3:37] So I, and he talked to me before he was supposed to be here.
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[4:08] Well, it's just that, you know, you're in a world that, you know, that's the way it is, really.
[4:33] And that's how it is.
[4:33] It's just the way it is.
[4:34] It's just the way it is.
[4:34] We are stirring this up every place in the U.S. now.
[4:35] The local people, just the way it is right now.
[4:37] Um, for the sake of it, I guess, that's what it was supposed to be.
[4:51] And I have to just tell you, it's just, it's just difficult.
[4:53] That's what it took.
[4:53] I know, I've gone around to go on, uh, all the issues, uh, and that's what it took to do so.
[4:56] ... ... ... ... ... ...
[5:22] I'm John Rhodes, and we did a state-by-state breakdown of what would happen if I was a customer in this business.
[5:44] Customers, in that situation.
[5:44] Taxes would play out in a state-by-state impact.
[5:45] The state, you know, his provisions passed before they did the tax break in that state.
[5:47] And it's pretty scary.
[5:48] It's $2,000 for a family that's getting taxed.
[5:49] I'm well aware of the number of reports that were put out over there in the state.
[6:10] It's something to us.
[6:11] I speak to every editor in the state of the state right now, as well as President.
[6:13] When he goes to these places, that's the first thing that we get.
[6:14] His wife, his proposal, he does, you know, put this work out.
[6:15] So, you know, ladies, the average tax, you know, family report, I think about $2,000 a month.
[6:17] It's kind of a pattern here, but what we're trying to do is, you know, we've been doing this for a long, long time.
[6:44] We've been doing this for a long, long time.
[6:44] We've been doing this for a long, long time.
[6:45] We've been doing this for a long, long time.
[6:47] So one issue, he said, is that they wouldn't have to choose Amnesty.
[7:08] He said, these people don't have to go to Amnesty.
[7:09] He's never said that way.
[7:10] He said, that's the reason my husband and I are home.
[7:11] And Tudor, Tudor also said that.
[7:11] And that's where all the states have taken us on.
[7:12] It's too difficult to be a housewife when Amnesty purchased us the yacht.
[7:14] So just think about the far better experience.
[7:15] What are they talking about?
[7:37] And it's wrong.
[7:37] That's why you didn't answer.
[7:38] Right.
[7:38] It just has to be everything.
[7:38] It's... Oh, I don't know.
[7:39] I don't know.
[7:39] I don't know.
[7:39] I don't know.
[7:40] Well, that was a hell of a commercial for us on Amnesty last night, wasn't it?
[7:57] We couldn't afford it.
[7:57] We couldn't afford it.
[7:58] It was huge.
[7:58] And, well, at 19, we had to go to the prison for those who had died or who were on prison conditions.
[8:02] of those who deserve to have them must pay a price for their choice of what you can or you can't.
[8:19] I put it to the courts that they need the most time.
[8:20] And we're the highest around, and we're going to be the highest in the world yet.
[8:28] Almost, he's almost three months old.
[8:42] He's three months old.
[8:43] Socially, that's our difference this week.
[8:43] As far as I can tell, we don't know where he's coming from.
[8:45] We don't know where he's coming from.
[8:45] We don't know where he's coming from.
[8:48] I have to doubt, I ask the reporter, what she was talking about.
[8:59] I don't know.
[9:00] I don't know.
[9:00] I don't know.
[9:01] I don't know why they posted it.
[9:30] I don't know.
[9:30] I don't know.
[9:30] I don't know.
[9:30] I don't know.
[9:31] I don't know.
[9:54] I don't know.
[9:55] I don't know.
[10:06] He's very far out of what he is, and he seems to listen.
[10:27] I don't know how many years he's been in prison, but he seems to be the same kind of person that's out there listening to everybody.
[10:29] Does that carry on?
[10:30] I don't know.
[10:30] I didn't, I didn't, well, I asked her the question, I said, well, I should have done it, but I didn't suggest it.
[10:32] I just felt that approval, and I did, and I told her, you know,
[10:35] Well, we're not pro-immigrant.
[10:53] We're pro-immigrant, but I don't believe they've been messing with themselves.
[10:54] The second part is, uh, I think for the service of the church, you know, as we discussed last week, along the lines we discussed, do not vote for Democrats.
[10:57] Stop thinking about the amnesty, crime, abortion, crime.
[10:58] For us, we'll start thinking about the economics.
[10:59] Is that right?
[11:00] Yeah.
[11:00] Remember something, don't go through anything just because of the subject.
[11:16] Don't let the subject wait too long, I guess.
[11:17] Just keep people worried and elevated.
[11:18] That is, though, the tax issue isn't great, unless you need to stand to it and make clear things on the plus side of it.
[11:20] Especially that they're doing it on the plus side, in case they never do it on the plus side.
[11:22] That should be everybody's job, you see.
[11:24] You know, he's so right, though, about the circulation.
[11:40] You see, that was the thing.
[11:41] The truck was bugging me about that, too.
[11:42] The service, the cabin, the place, the practice.
[11:43] And I saw, I saw Greg and Herb going on the list of issues, and they were not talking about the circulation.
[11:45] I wouldn't get away with it.
[11:45] I was going to talk.
[11:46] I was going to talk.
[11:46] I was going to talk.
[11:47] But it's not working.
[12:00] And there are people who are not doing it.
[12:01] They're doing great.
[12:02] They just don't know it.
[12:02] They're not doing it right.
[12:03] And they call it.
[12:03] They're not sending it, of course.
[12:04] I don't think they're going to do it.
[12:04] They just don't know it.
[12:05] A lot of them have kids pushing them.
[12:20] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:21] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:21] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:22] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:23] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:24] They don't want to be part of that group.
[12:26] I don't know how to read it.
[12:51] So they were, they were all kind of discontent, just a little bit nervous because they couldn't push it, couldn't push it close to the examples.
[13:17] So every time they streamed live, live videos, they got a gap.
[13:18] If they don't stream, you already have that, you already have that period.
[13:20] That's right.
[13:20] I can tell immediately on the issues of this world, the amnesty that we've got to deal with, and the amnesty that we've got to spread about.
[13:45] And you know that you're sensitive about it.
[13:46] You can't get away with it.
[13:47] You are going to know it.
[13:47] But this is not going to be the time.
[13:48] You don't have the time to say that.
[13:49] Oh, here's a question.
[13:50] Thank you.
[14:02] Thank you.
[14:02] Also, I think that God is giving him advice that he can't make up his mind at the end of time.
[14:21] Instead, look at him at the end of time.
[14:22] He bounces back.
[14:22] Oh, that's great.
[14:23] When there was this thing called corruption, something like that, he blew it away and ran in a hole, and it was fine.
[14:25] He was made a bigger deal than any of the others.
[14:26] He doesn't have anything.
[14:27] He's got a spirit that comes over his head, and he has to read it.
[14:28] I don't think so.
[14:41] I don't think so.
[14:42] It's not too cold.
[15:05] I don't need an idea to get on taxis now.
[15:06] I don't want to leave my country, but that's not all.
[15:07] I don't want to.
[15:08] I don't want to, but that's not, except for the, uh, I've got to get on that.
[15:09] That's important.
[15:10] Although we've got something to say.
[15:10] Because, uh, hell, you know,
[15:12] which is, uh, medicine.
[15:32] Uh, I've asked that many of them want to send citizens to non-medical centers.
[15:33] Instead of, like, I'm here, right?
[15:34] I mean, it's a little rough, isn't it?
[15:35] All right.
[15:35] Let's get out of here.
[15:35] We've got to see what we can do.
[15:36] We've got to see what we can do.
[15:37] We've got to see what we can do.
[15:37] We've got to see what we can do.
[15:38] We've got to see what we can do.
[15:40] I asked him how he's going to put his support next to this $200 tax credit.
[15:59] So if you know what that does on us, there's a lot to do together.
[16:00] So we'll see.
[16:01] We can't say for a long time.
[16:01] But we've heard, uh, if you've heard, actually, in the last place, the second time, it's probably the best way.
[16:03] Because, uh, you know, it doesn't have to be.
[16:04] It doesn't, it doesn't have to be.
[16:05] So that's, that's the right side of that.
[16:11] Some of it is actually .
[16:33] But I think what they've got to do is go directly with the statement to somebody and request something.
[16:35] And I've been working on something now.
[16:36] I'm getting something out.
[16:36] I'm going to get it paid.
[16:37] Frankly, there are things.
[16:41] I don't know, but I hope, I hope you've got something to say about that.
[16:56] Because, I don't think you've got anything to say about that.
[16:58] Of course you can.
[16:58] Of course you have to realize this.
[16:59] You can't just, you can't come up with a, you know, you have to realize that you've got something to say.
[17:03] Well, first of all, I'd like to say thank you very much for having me on the show.
[17:11] I'm so proud of you for having me on the show.
[17:19] And that's why I told her, you know, I'm not going to do another one.
[17:32] You know, the water, you know, I have to do another one.
[17:33] And it cost $800 million this year and $400 million over the budget last year.
[17:35] I can't say that.
[17:54] I don't ever do.
[17:55] I don't ever do that.
[17:55] Some of the old folks will cut her off on that one.
[17:56] They do.
[17:56] They cut her off.
[17:57] She's got to take that.
[17:57] And I'm also going to need to go to the appropriation.
[17:58] I'm going to need to go to the appropriation.
[17:59] I'm going to need to go to the appropriation.
[18:00] I'm going to need to go to the appropriation.
[18:01] I'm going to need to go to the appropriation.
[18:03] I think that community will actually have to do it.
[18:19] I do.
[18:19] I don't think people are going to change their roles in society.
[18:21] I don't want that.
[18:21] And then, you know, it's not easy, but that's why we do it.
[18:22] That's why we do it.
[18:23] We're going to do it.
[18:24] I'm so excited.
[18:43] I'm so excited.
[18:44] I'm so excited.
[18:44] I'm so excited.
[18:45] Thank you.
[19:04] Thank you.