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Nixon & Woods on Presidential correspondence and Office administration

Thursday, October 19, 1972 · 8:27 AM–8:42 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation368-019 on Tape 368StartThursday, October 19, 1972 at 8:27 AMEndThursday, October 19, 1972 at 8:42 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 368-019 ↗

President Nixon consults with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, regarding the formatting and legibility of his prepared radio scripts. Nixon expresses a desire to avoid larger print to prevent eye strain or dependency, yet acknowledges the need for sharper, more readable type. He instructs Woods to coordinate with Manolo Sanchez to ensure future drafts are produced on a standard typewriter with clearer text.

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There's all these great little talks.
I wear my glasses and I really don't need bigger type.
What I like is, you know, I like to...
I just don't want to get my glasses, I don't want to get my eyes accustomed to, you know, bigger type of glasses.
So, well, regular, if you have something that's a little bit sharper, bigger, you know...
I think you do, because I heard from Seth right there, and this is the one that you had, just use your, I'll tell you what you do, type it off a page of something, you know, of your normal typewriter, and I'll put it over to Manolo, and I'll just put it back.
Because I'm sure, it's small, but I agree with him the last time.
The type is, I get used to the fact that the type is smaller than what's in your head at one time, see?
So, yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
Bye.
Bye.

On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:42 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 368-019 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 368-19

Date: October 19, 1972
Time: Unknown between 8:25 am and 8:42 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

        Radio talks
            -Type face for type script
                 -The President’s glasses
                 -William L. Safire
                 -The President’s instructions
                     -Typewriter
                         -Manolo Sanchez
  • 031-135 8:04 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:04 am and 9:06 am.
  • 368-017 8:25 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:25 am to 8:27 am.
  • 368-018 8:27 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:42 am.
  • 368-020 8:27 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:42 am.
  • 368-021 8:27 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:42 am.
  • 368-022 8:27 AM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:42 am.
  • 368-023 8:42 AM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:42 am to 8:55 am.
  • 368-024 8:55 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 am and 9:06 am.

Conversation 368-019, October 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-019 (accessed October 10, 2026).