{"conversationCode":"368-025","tapeNumber":368,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-368-025","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:08:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:06 AM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"9:08 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Tkach, Walter R.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Walter R. Tkach met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:06 am to 9:08 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 368-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 368-25\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: 9:06 am - 9:08 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Gen. Walter R. Tkach.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-136]","filename":["368-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Tkach, Walter R."],"prevCode":"368-024","nextCode":"368-026","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":10.16,"text":"So, well, we're on a period, and maybe off the record, Jesus and Jesus Christ."},{"start":10.51,"end":34.11,"text":"You check with the seat and the doctor if you're able to get ideas from the government and the hospitals and what you do is just check and then talk with your doctor and decide if this is good for you."},{"start":34.13,"end":34.79,"text":"Try to know if it's good for you."},{"start":34.81,"end":35.31,"text":"Ask if it's good for you."},{"start":35.33,"end":35.99,"text":"Try to be as specific as you can."},{"start":36.01,"end":37.4,"text":"There are many facilities that we can if they would like to use them."},{"start":37.8,"end":41.95,"text":"Just do that."},{"start":41.97,"end":42.07,"text":"Okay."},{"start":42.09,"end":42.17,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal physician, General Walter R. Tkach, to discuss medical coordination and the utilization of government health facilities. Nixon instructed Tkach to consult with other medical experts and relevant officials to evaluate the quality and suitability of available hospital resources. This brief exchange served to formalize the President's interest in assessing the efficacy of specific healthcare options for his personal medical needs.","topics":["Presidential health","Walter R. Tkach","Medical care","Healthcare facilities","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:07:21.416Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-health","walter-r-tkach","medical-care","healthcare-facilities","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":45,"audioFiles":[{"file":"368-025.mp3","bytes":1082722,"durationSec":45.04,"bitrate":192312,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/368-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/368/conversation-368-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}