{"conversationCode":"368-027","tapeNumber":368,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-368-027","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:36:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:08 AM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"9:36 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:08 am and 9:36 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 368-027 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 368-27\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:08 am and 9:36 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n        The President’s schedule\n            -Paul Hall\n                -Seafarer’s International Union\n                -Endorsement\n                -Charles W. Colson's suggestion for meeting\n                     -Timing\n                -Photograph session\n                -Rank in American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations\n                [AFL-CIO]\n            -Barber","filename":["368-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"368-026","nextCode":"368-028","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":23.82,"text":"Well, you know, the new today is going to be a press conference over the community headquarters, at which Paul Hall, the president of the Seafarers International, is going to be."},{"start":23.84,"end":25.93,"text":"We're going to go to the Colston Pub, and then we're going to go to the Seaford Gardens in Fort Hillary."},{"start":25.95,"end":26.51,"text":"All right, thank you, Terry."},{"start":26.53,"end":27.59,"text":"He's the number 21, and he's going to sit right here."},{"start":27.61,"end":28.13,"text":"He's supposed to be there."},{"start":28.15,"end":28.35,"text":"All right."},{"start":31.33,"end":47.41,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":47.43,"end":47.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":47.55,"end":47.66,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield to coordinate scheduling details for an upcoming appearance by Paul Hall of the Seafarers International Union. The discussion centered on the timing and logistical arrangements for Hall's endorsement of the President, including a proposed photo session. Nixon emphasized the importance of Hall's position within the AFL-CIO hierarchy to ensure appropriate protocol for the event.","topics":["Paul Hall","Seafarers International Union","AFL-CIO","Presidential Scheduling","Endorsements"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:07:33.359Z"},"topicSlugs":["paul-hall","seafarers-international-union","afl-cio","presidential-scheduling","endorsements"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"368-027.mp3","bytes":1290866,"durationSec":53.73,"bitrate":192188,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/368-027.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-027","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/368/conversation-368-027","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}