{"conversationCode":"368-031","tapeNumber":368,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-368-031","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T14:34:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:40 AM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:34 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:40 am and 10:34 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 368-031 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 368-31\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:40 am and 10:34 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Philadelphia revenue sharing signing ceremony, October 20, 1972\n                -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew\n                     -Presiding role\n                          -The President’s position on stage\n                     -Explanation\n                -The President’s remarks\n                -Preparation of statement\n                     -The President’s instructions\n                          -Length of statement","filename":["368-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"368-030","nextCode":"368-032","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":26.6,"text":"John, with regard to Philadelphia, you know, as I understand it, you know, we've got to have the vice president preside, and we've got to change the total to the right."},{"start":26.62,"end":27.56,"text":"And, you know, we've got to do the right thing."},{"start":27.58,"end":28.44,"text":"But I'll be on the stage and say it's fine."},{"start":28.46,"end":29.25,"text":"Just to explain why they presided, sir."},{"start":31.54,"end":49.86,"text":"That's it."},{"start":49.88,"end":49.98,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":50,"end":50.1,"text":"Done."},{"start":50.12,"end":50.24,"text":"Great."},{"start":50.26,"end":52.22,"text":"Now the other part here is that my remarks, of course, I'll wait until I hear what the others say."},{"start":52.24,"end":54.41,"text":"But it occurred to me that there's a lot of things that are real and some of them are all prepared for this."},{"start":55.13,"end":76.4,"text":"Why don't you have them make up the signing statements, if you will, in other words, about this, in other words, journey, and they put it in a line, you know, the whole story of this kind of thing."},{"start":76.42,"end":76.96,"text":"How does that sound to you?"},{"start":76.98,"end":80.21,"text":"And then you say, yes, they've already done the work, they're all ready, and then drop that all up there, and they'll get that to the press early in the morning."},{"start":80.19,"end":91.77,"text":"Thank you for watching."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman met to finalize logistical and messaging plans for an upcoming revenue sharing signing ceremony in Philadelphia. They discussed the staging protocols for Vice President Spiro Agnew, specifically ensuring Agnew presided over the event while defining the President’s position on stage. Nixon instructed Ehrlichman to prepare a concise signing statement that provided a comprehensive narrative of the administration’s legislative journey for early distribution to the press.","topics":["Revenue sharing","Philadelphia","Spiro Agnew","Public relations","Presidential scheduling","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:07:55.825Z"},"topicSlugs":["revenue-sharing","philadelphia","spiro-agnew","public-relations","presidential-scheduling","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":95,"audioFiles":[{"file":"368-031.mp3","bytes":2272025,"durationSec":94.61,"bitrate":192110,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/368-031.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-031","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/368/conversation-368-031","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}