{"conversationCode":"369-022","tapeNumber":369,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-369-022","startDateTime":"1972-10-18T23:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-18T23:21:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Oct-1972","startTime":"7:19 PM","endDate":"18-Oct-1972","endTime":"7:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:19 pm to 7:21 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 369-022 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 369-22\n\nDate: October 18, 1972\nTime: 7:19 pm - 7:21 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nRonald L. Ziegler talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-130]","filename":["369-022.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"369-021","nextCode":"369-023","transcript":[{"start":10.63,"end":35.56,"text":"Ah!"},{"start":63.6,"end":91.58,"text":"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."},{"start":92.44,"end":100.81,"text":"Right."},{"start":101.31,"end":106.14,"text":"That's what they were asking for."},{"start":106.16,"end":110.73,"text":"It must have been that."},{"start":110.75,"end":111.25,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":111.27,"end":111.63,"text":"Well, it was that."},{"start":111.65,"end":112.77,"text":"Now, my issue, you know, was trying to find the Chinese."},{"start":112.79,"end":113.37,"text":"That's what that's going on."},{"start":113.39,"end":113.89,"text":"But I didn't do it."},{"start":114.09,"end":115.36,"text":"That's what's wrong."},{"start":115.38,"end":117.62,"text":"But I wished them well."},{"start":122.95,"end":139.61,"text":"I would simply say that we had a pleasant conversation about hoping to see them, that I confidently expected to see both of them in their positions of leadership the next month."},{"start":139.63,"end":140.25,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":145.49,"end":153.63,"text":"I look forward to seeing them in the next Congress and after the election."},{"start":154.93,"end":160.71,"text":"And I hope the next three weeks weren't too difficult."},{"start":160.81,"end":164.73,"text":"Right."},{"start":167.01,"end":172.58,"text":"I don't want to do one thing."},{"start":172.6,"end":176.05,"text":"I said I thought she was going to do one."},{"start":176.07,"end":177.29,"text":"She said I didn't want to do one."},{"start":177.43,"end":181.88,"text":"How did the other, how did the broadcaster do?"},{"start":181.9,"end":182.74,"text":"I heard, I thought he was going to do one."},{"start":196.64,"end":207.69,"text":"What did they play at the top?"},{"start":207.71,"end":208.23,"text":"A water game?"},{"start":208.71,"end":212.36,"text":"That ain't gonna be a lot."},{"start":212.38,"end":212.5,"text":"Right."},{"start":212.52,"end":213.9,"text":"It's alright for us."},{"start":213.92,"end":215.2,"text":"Good."},{"start":215.22,"end":215.32,"text":"Good."},{"start":215.34,"end":215.87,"text":"Good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinated the administration's public messaging regarding upcoming meetings with foreign leadership and post-election expectations. Nixon instructed Ziegler on how to characterize recent diplomatic interactions and emphasized maintaining a positive outlook toward congressional relations. The discussion concluded with a brief review of media coverage and broadcasting activities.","topics":["Public Relations","Diplomacy","Media Coverage","Post-Election Strategy","White House Messaging"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:10:46.600Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","diplomacy","media-coverage","post-election-strategy","white-house-messaging"],"audioDurationSec":219,"audioFiles":[{"file":"369-022.mp3","bytes":5256880,"durationSec":218.96,"bitrate":192067,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","transcriptGapSeconds":53,"transcriptGapShare":0.24,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/369-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/369-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/369/conversation-369-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}