{"conversationCode":"369-028","tapeNumber":369,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-369-028","startDateTime":"1972-10-18T23:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-18T23:55:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Oct-1972","startTime":"7:30 PM","endDate":"18-Oct-1972","endTime":"7:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:30 pm and 7:55 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 369-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 369-28\n\nDate: October 18, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:30 pm and 7:55 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-133]","filename":["369-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"369-027","nextCode":"369-029","transcript":[{"start":0.59,"end":5.84,"text":"You can try to have a little bit of drama, drama, I hope you're going to have a lot of drama."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon held a brief, informal exchange with a White House operator regarding the orchestration of a telephone call. The President expressed a desire for a sense of dramatic flair in the communication process. No substantive policy matters or official state business were transacted during this interaction.","topics":["White House operations","Telephone communications","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:11:20.930Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operations","telephone-communications","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"369-028.mp3","bytes":354219,"durationSec":14.71,"bitrate":192684,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:28.108Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/369-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/369-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/369/conversation-369-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}