{"conversationCode":"370-002","tapeNumber":370,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-370-002","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T16:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T17:48:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:38 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"1:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:48 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 370-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 370-2\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:38 pm and 1:48 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n        Ehrlichman’s forthcoming press conference\n            -Timing\n            -Congressional relations\n                -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                    -Baseball analogy\n\n                 -Revenue sharing\n                     -Federal spending\n                 -Foreign policy\n                 -1972 Election\n                     -The President’s support for Congressmen favoring his programs\n                 -Revenue sharing\n\n        Domestic programs\n           -Revenue sharing\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Camp David\n                -Helicopter\n            -Meeting\n                -Time\n\n        Forthcoming statement on Congress’ record\n            -Ehrlichman","filename":["370-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"370-001","nextCode":"370-003","transcript":[{"start":2.71,"end":32.35,"text":"The main thing I've done is I said,"},{"start":36.94,"end":56.63,"text":"And I just didn't know, I'm sure they hadn't decided, but I'm part of the group, and I'm a very important part of the group."},{"start":60.24,"end":75.65,"text":"So, I think that question comes up."},{"start":76.39,"end":95.25,"text":"You know, for the most of the time, that's what's happening."},{"start":95.27,"end":95.87,"text":"That's what's happening to us."},{"start":95.89,"end":96.49,"text":"That's what's happening to us."},{"start":96.51,"end":98.23,"text":"There is some division, of course, between the parents and the body of the mother."},{"start":98.25,"end":101.09,"text":"There is some division, of course, between the parents and the body of the mother."},{"start":101.11,"end":103.36,"text":"There is some division, of course, between the parents and the body of the mother."},{"start":103.38,"end":104.78,"text":"There is some division between the parents and the body of the mother."},{"start":108.96,"end":117.49,"text":"And take the version ."},{"start":117.59,"end":128.22,"text":"But I would ."},{"start":128.46,"end":138.47,"text":"Are you for a Republican Congress?"},{"start":138.49,"end":138.83,"text":"I don't think so."},{"start":141.16,"end":163.92,"text":"I'm not going to ."},{"start":163.94,"end":164.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":164.08,"end":165.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":165.22,"end":165.34,"text":"Right."},{"start":165.36,"end":165.76,"text":"Right."},{"start":165.78,"end":167.05,"text":"And the president obviously is ."},{"start":172.66,"end":181.13,"text":"That's his responsibility."},{"start":181.15,"end":182.75,"text":"And it happens."},{"start":183.35,"end":190.24,"text":"And now it crosses the party line for him."},{"start":190.26,"end":195.93,"text":"And we do feel that this Congress has a great opportunity to take this issue."},{"start":195.95,"end":199.23,"text":"I'm not going to say that for him."},{"start":199.25,"end":201.88,"text":"In fact, we mocked that opportunity, except for ."},{"start":201.9,"end":202.08,"text":"OK?"},{"start":202.1,"end":202.2,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":229.67,"end":253.35,"text":"Yeah, I think you should have a meeting here."},{"start":253.37,"end":257.61,"text":"Why don't you say, I said you have a meeting here today."},{"start":258.89,"end":281.29,"text":"Then another meeting, Friday, and then, of course, I'll have a meeting with the candidate, and I'll have a speech from there."},{"start":281.31,"end":282.37,"text":"See what I mean?"},{"start":282.39,"end":284.01,"text":"I'll be coming back and say, you're going to the candidate meeting."},{"start":284.03,"end":284.37,"text":"Invite them all."},{"start":284.39,"end":284.89,"text":"Invite them all in there."},{"start":284.91,"end":285.11,"text":"All right."},{"start":285.13,"end":285.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":285.25,"end":285.49,"text":"All right."},{"start":285.51,"end":285.77,"text":"We'll report."},{"start":285.79,"end":287.31,"text":"Tomorrow, we'll report that, and then I can get a week's report."},{"start":287.47,"end":288.17,"text":"There's no time to say that."},{"start":288.19,"end":288.71,"text":"We'll put that out."},{"start":292.93,"end":298.32,"text":"Good."},{"start":298.81,"end":308.59,"text":"Good."},{"start":308.61,"end":308.93,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman coordinated messaging for an upcoming press conference and developed a strategy for publicizing the administration’s legislative agenda. They discussed the tactical use of meetings with congressional candidates to bolster support for Republican programs, particularly regarding revenue sharing. Additionally, the President reviewed his schedule for travel to Camp David and the timing of various administrative briefings.","topics":["Revenue sharing","1972 election","Congressional relations","Public relations strategy","Domestic policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:11:43.768Z"},"topicSlugs":["revenue-sharing","1972-election","congressional-relations","public-relations-strategy","domestic-policy"],"audioDurationSec":313,"audioFiles":[{"file":"370-002.mp3","bytes":7511352,"durationSec":312.92,"bitrate":192032,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:28.288Z","transcriptGapSeconds":133,"transcriptGapShare":0.42,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/370-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/370-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/370/conversation-370-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}