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That's very interesting.

Once you get in, you want it.

That's our idea.

So you gotta make that little study.

He's got time problems, short term.

He can't come in now for a while.

I want to do the whole thing.

He's going to get some talk to it.

I don't know.

He said he'd give us a week.

Sometime in November.

For a full time, we're going to spend a full week.

I really want that.

I want us to

We've already got a big chunk of the trade in Maryland.

The National Council stuff, he said he can work on some of that.

In a way, if we work that way, he can't spend too much time on this.

He'll take whatever we want.

You can say now that he's doing this analysis,

What they've done in checking out planes, and we can name some of them, completely agrees with, I mean, I didn't go into any specifics, but on the general basis of getting rid of that stuff in the cities, you get rid of the Space Council, you get rid of the Science Council, the Science Advisory Board, the Science Advisory, the GSAC, you know, all that crap.

And you just get all those, you get the Office of Emergency Preparedness,

Some of that under the law.

Well, you can't get rid of it.

You've got to work our own ways of getting them where they belong.

Getting more stuff tied up.

If you do set up at the right feet of any departments, get stuff under the departments where it belongs.

You can let stuff in the White House or building independent.

And then we're going to get some control.

I got two of my attorney generals and I've got other jurors should be at HCW you need one of them should be at the one around the main problem they're here and they're on our staff and I've got to see them we're approaching the concept of some kind of

It's pretty valuable.

It can go all the way up to the top of the building for you.

It's really, really useful to kind of get this thing moved around the world all the time.

And it's doable if it's something you want to build.

And I can't believe it.

I'm trying to figure out the process and I'm just, I'm convinced.

Roy just, he said, Roy, he got all excited about it.

He said, you're going to get both the American people, and this is marvelous that you do this, that we should take whatever agents we compromise.

There should be a captain meeting without you there.

Or Bill Rogers would still want to be the captain.

At times, the vice president should be there as well.

That he is going to submit his resignation to you that day.

And that every member of the cabinet should be qualified as .

So not only that, but then each of them should go back to his department meeting and call a meeting of all presidential appointees.

Ask them to submit their resignations to the president.

And then a meeting of all the departmental secretarial employees and ask them to submit their resignations to the secretary.

Then you ask, and this is the device that gets around it, you ask each of those people, how did you make up a form to do this?

You ask each of them also to submit with its letter of resignation a statement of personal preference.

In the case, three categories that you fall into.

Either I have determined it as a matter for personal reasons, financial, personal, or whatever.

But I must return.

I must leave government and return to the war I came from.

Or two, it is my intention to return to private horses or whatever.

But if there is some

compelling reason for me to stay in Washington for some particular .

I would, of course, be willing to stay in the third category.

If appropriate, I would like to stay on in the administration.

I'm a federal and would like to serve further.

Then, under that third category, you let them go further.

And you say, if you like to serve, indicate the areas, either general or specific, in which you feel you're best qualified and most interested in serving.

And let them say, I want to stay in my same job, or I want to move from out of the White House over to the Justice Department, or I want to move out into a regional office, or whatever.

You know, you get a lot of ideas that way.

Throughout the manual, the ideas are useful because I get to submit them further, but also,

It then tells everybody that we aren't necessarily accepting all of your resignations, that they are a throwback claim, but that we will be accepting any of them, you know.

And then you stack all that up.

You get that in the first, you ask for those meetings by November 10th, because people all know they don't need any time to do that.

And this is done right now.

And I think we should ask them that they make them pro-formal letters of resignation, simple letter of resignation.

Even the phrase, the rest, they can do that when they leave, because we want this on the pro-form.

And I think I do the same thing with the White House staff, all the appointees, all the members of staff.

And we do, I think, a lot of leave.

uh contact all the agencies through our personnel office we contact all the boards and commissions and counselors and all that stuff so we get a completely clean slate and then we decide we can do that the day after the election and if you do it across the board nobody can say my god you know he's pushing me out then you start stacking up from there to see what you got then i've been debating

I think everybody should be told that there's an enormous amount of work to be done.

People are not to take off, let down, just because of the election.

That they are to stay on and carry on their normal business.

The President and various key people from time to time will be involved with the President in working on changes.

The ongoing business is to be handled, the normal detail work of budget, preparation, all that kind of stuff is to go on.

And each office told, each individual really told to prepare a little black book that says, first of all, define what your job is, what your office's function is.

Secondly, where does it stand?

Now, what's its current valuation?

What are the summary awards for its current position?

Third, where should it go?

What is the future direction of this office?

And fourth, how should it get there?

Right?

The value of that is, while you pull away from the ongoing business, hopefully, and some of your key people do, that this gives the people ongoing a work product area.

that will be useful if you make a change and give an office that will be useful then we've got to have that not be one of the following because we know what's wrong with it when it comes in and out and then you start getting the right people in on the right basis in the right places and you can get all that done

And a lot of the basic planning done in that first week.

Then you go to the month, which is November 15th and December 15th.

That's when you've got to start trying to pull it all together.

Hopefully you have it basically completed by December 15th, in the broad strokes at least.

And then you go to the next month.

And he's very anxious to be able to do that.

I think we ought to look at James.

If he's an administrator, frankly, he doesn't have to be.

My view of him would be to make Brandon go on to stay.

But it's a way to have a block.

who's a hell of a person.

It's a way to have a link to the black army that we're going to be having.

And it's a way to have a C.I.

in there.

I refuse.

It doesn't make any difference.

Hughes is always the citizen of the Air Force, but a lot of that jealousy is that I don't make shit.

I think I ought not to be here, but that's what I am.

And the Air Force has had it long enough.

But whatever he is, he's the guy I think we ought to try for.

And another thing, he's good.

I mean, he's a big, good-looking guy.

I think also...

If he does take the job, he might turn out to be very useful.

I'm interested in handling some of the blacks in the White House.

You know, a lot of things.

You could expand, yeah.

Because I would bring him in then.

I'd have him in your staff meeting.

He's a public figure.

So it would be nice, but you know what I mean?

I'd have him in as a part of the military system.

It's a hell of a public figure.

I would much prefer to have one in black than some other people.

That would be a very hot position.

He's done a very good job.

Don't be so loud.

It's all fine for that.

I'm good that way.

I don't want to be satisfied.

Al or anybody else, I wouldn't say.

He's just checked private.

He's in the medical facility.

He's in the background with his wife, all that jazz.

What we do with that is just bring him in.

We say, look, we need you for this.

You're already a part of the drug.

It's a good idea.

Second, the phone goes down.

You'll probably run out of phone calls.

I don't know where they are.

I don't have any time.

I'm sure you're not missing a piece.

But our materials are leaked out of the FBI.

Why the hell can't you query us?

What the hell is left?

You know what I mean?

We know what's left.

Read the file.

We know what's left, and we know what's leaked, and we know who the lead is.

Is it somebody in the FBI?

Let's go.

I want to find out.

Who?

a full circle through the apartment, the place where it's coming out.

The FBI is creative.

And it's very high up.

About 80.

Actually very high up.

It's not going to help.

It's probably the patient.

I don't know.

saying about this because we'll screw up our source and there's a real concern Mitchell is the only one that knows this.

And I feel very strongly that we should, we better not do anything because if we do it, never.

We move on.

I could go out and unload everything.

He knows everything that's to be known in the FBI.

He has access to absolutely everything.

The department doesn't know this yet.

I just got this information.

I was going to tell her without telling her any stories.

Don't tell her any stories.

I'm not going to.

But to tell her the fact, the suggestions, without saying that we know that, tell Pat Gray.

He doesn't know anything about this, but he knows that Pat must not have confidence in our development.

So I think Pat ought to know that.

He does not have to do anything.

And it may be a particular warning.

I wonder what it would mean to just be warned in here.

Because we've all dealt with that.

We've all raised to death.

This could fall down, but it's an awful lot of time.

But Johnny goes through several little stops.

And what do they have coming up?

All of a sudden, Time Magazine has a one more shot and it comes directly from this same source.

It's out of their smart state and stuff.

It ties General Hoosier and Bart Porter of the Election Committee into the funding of the Jordan-Lilley operation.

It's the same old story.

Dean says there's nothing more in the FBI stuff.

that that's as far as it goes.

And that, and that we don't have anything.

What would you do with the program?

Well, I asked Dean.

What the hell would you do?

He said you can't prosecute him.

But he hasn't committed any...

I don't know if he'd like to go out and say, you know, I've tried to discuss it and all the rest.

I know I shouldn't do it, but, you know, that's fine.

I don't know.

There's all kinds of devices.

You let him know that you know it, and you transfer him to the...

I'll tell him a lot about it.

You let him know that you know it, and you get out behind the door.

If he's concerned, you let him know that.

You don't have to go out and do all that work to tell him.

Correct.

You know what I'd do with him?

Ask him.

Yeah.

You know, you've got to work with the next lots of people.

Yeah.

I don't know about you, but I recommend Craig.

I know you might not want to stay under those circumstances.

I don't want to tell you.

I don't want to talk to you.

I don't want to push you.

Well, that's all I want to hear about you.

I mean, you're way ahead of me.

It's hard to think about it, you know, right?

But, yeah, I think he's very nice over there.

He didn't put himself on the top spot.

That's, I think, just, you know, I think you're in on the top spot, and I think he wants to be on the top spot.

He's a hell of a way from, you know, I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm trying to figure it out.

You know, he figured a lot of it.

Maybe he thought, in the first place, he has to figure that if you stay in his presence, obviously, it would be, like, impossible to be a problem, but it would be great if he stayed in his presence.

Well, Governor comes in.

Oh, is he?

Then you know Gray's going to be out.

Yeah.

That's what it is.

It's realistic.

Well, that's the current.

What he's leaking is currently, he's leaking very currently.

So he has to come in.

There's no chance.

You could argue that earlier.

Then he, maybe he started at the Kennedy Center.

Maybe he's playing this game, building himself up.

Is he a Catholic?

I don't know.

Governor is certainly having a hell of a time making up his mind with where to go here.

You know, taxes, they thought, and I said, I thought, and I was like, well, how do we, which ones do you want?

Right, full courses.

I was going to have taxes to follow, and then morality, and then money spending.

All right.

Now, I'm just going to have to do these things.

In the meantime, he's doing these UNAs, which I would think somebody would realize they were a total disaster for him, because he's in an O.

Now, I haven't seen it, but I've heard it down there, but the local ones, these are not stationary.

These are, you take your phone number, and they'll tell him how it's done.

All he's getting, all he's getting is why he can't be within a degree worth of 1,000% behind him.

And he doesn't mean to give $1,000 in this period for him and Steve and all that.

Well, he isn't even getting to that point.

All right, all right, please.

You know, this little speech was not part of the movement.

It's the world, Kenny.

Some places, you know.

We showed it.

The better thing that God should do is fine.

I'm sure we're going to have trouble on it.

That one's facing over.

I'm sure we're going to have trouble on it.

The proxy answer is a very tough call.

I can tell from his rhetoric and his mouth that he's got something about him in there.

Good.

One arm.

That's him, Peter, and Andrew, the three of them.

Charlotte, Bryce.

Hey, can you hear me?

He's alive.

He's dead.

He's dead, he is.

whether you want to see them as a right, or whether you want to open them into something else and have them available to the survivors, which is what I think you are doing.

Absolutely.

I think Ray ought to have a chance to do something.

I don't know what that object is, but could the ATW position secretary do something there or something like that?

With the understanding that on some major speeches, maybe three or four times during one of those terms, you're wanting to do those things.

Basically, Ray is a writer, not an actor.

Right?

He's got good taste in judging, so he can watch his stuff that way, and he will never offset it.

He won't let something wrong go out.

But for Burleson, he's the editor, and he produces it rather than would make it.

But we need a better prediction.

Yeah.

Really, man.

I want to show you.

Power and electricity, that's what I would do.

I'm down to this path, one.

Oh, there.

He's a good trucking rider, but he doesn't have that kind of control.

He's not a rocker, though.

He's not a rocker.

None of these guys can do anything, right?

where none of those can be together.

And it isn't the same water.

No.

It's not part of the water.

It's certainly not.

Yeah.

No doubt.

You can't put water.

Bad judgment.

And there's another thing.

Get rid of the office.

Yeah, but that's kind of like a different way of looking at it, which is, see, and now, that's so much different.

That's already, I don't know, whether you need that office, you already heard the communications, the president's communication about this.

Yeah.

But we need a guy also.

There's a mother that I need right now.

I need somebody that I can...

I need a better man, basically, for...

I don't...

I'm sure I already chose.

I need a better man who can write an elegant, creative letter, too.

So that I can feel more comfortable about the letter.

You need a president speechwriter.

It isn't an editor.

It is a guy.

He's got it all right.

He just broke one of them.

I don't know.

What's the, uh, conveyor belt?

What belt is that?

I don't know.

Is that your, uh, your time?

I mean, it's posted.

Order, if you order one, what's the other time?

Mr. Williams?

Uh-huh.

What's the name of, uh, the, uh, the director of one of the companies?

The director of the board?

I would struggle on commentary, just to remind you.

Through AFR.

Through an official, there's a publication.

Those who are recorded in the publication as getting this most productive by the report.

Because he has stronger ties here to the rest of the publication.

He's a former Justice Department man, so we made the contact.

He made the contact here with the Justice Department.

Because he knows what the problem is and he's deeply concerned about it.

He is a former FBI agent.

He knows that the FBI is leaking through a reporter in his publication.

What does he think about it?

He's very disturbed about it.

So he has told the guy at Justice, who he knows, what the route is.

He said, I think you ought to know this, and I don't know if you can do it now, or I can do it now.

The guy at Justice told John D.,

He has not told anybody else, including my source after ID, because he's afraid that either of my reactive session players would be more on the road to say nothing.

So I asked to let it go.

We had to tell someone so we know who it was.

I don't think you have to tell a very irrational person.

If you tell them it's either way, you're going to get it out.

Yeah, I think you're right.

That kind of draft is putting off that stuff.

At least it's, uh, it's very short.

I don't know if it's going to have a big impact on Watergate.

That's what I was concerned about.

There's no way.

He isn't trying to do anything.

I know he isn't.

But I mean, there's so many things that could be reformed.

There might be something to be done.

Oh, you know what I mean?

There might be something to be done.

The FBI file is so cringy.

That's what they're trying to do, Bob, about everything else, to say to the president first.

That I, that I said that, no, why don't you stop talking about those types of things, too?

But, second, I want to say, well, they were engaged in something wrong when they were fired, right?

Well, we've got to say, first, he wasn't tied to the Watergate, so the placement is not wrong.

Second, but it was a case, and it was not him, so it was not wrong.

Right.

Nobody has, nobody has any way, directly, to pledge any achievement tied to the Watergate.

The police,

particularly at the time to a degree, as at times to a greater degree, have attempted by the most poignant type of insinuation to try to tie Jason to the wire.

The interesting thing is that the time guy gives up the post

The Post stuff was not on the FBI.

Most sources, that's why we knew that the Post may not write.

That's why we didn't think it was FBI, because the source of that was not FBI.

That is your stuff that's in the FBI file.

The Time Magazine stuff is clearly FBI.

And what Time Magazine has this week on Magruder and Bart Porter is FBI.

Well, Bart Porter is the guy who owns Magruder.

I guess they had that all along.

What we do is we're concerned there is .

But what you're seeing here is all of the long range program is carefully thought out.

There's a plan for lock, probably all of them, for all of them initially into this thing.

And to do it at the last minute there is to build the case up and then try and nail it.

And maybe you're also the most impossible thing given up in that direction because they couldn't build anywhere on that stuff they had down here, which is the real thing.

So we've got that thing called Carmella.

We have stuff like that.

And we're going to have to pay for the business.

We're going to have to sell whatever we're going to have to sell.

They turned them off.

They turned them off because it wasn't going to work.

But they're going to a thing now, I suppose, that we should start to take them away, but I don't think that's going to work.

Gary Anderson today has a black stick that I directed all of his operations, but it's very, you know, it's common and totally useless as far as except that it gives them the base to pick up and .

And they may, I don't know, that may be the direction they're working.

They have absolutely nothing on track.

Yeah.

Just somebody would, that's the thing.

Well, I think we're over worrying about the forehead.

I just want to know what I got out of this thing.

Well, frankly, there's no more time to accept this from Uter, or anything, which we've had all along.

We've known all along.

Right.

Because of the Uter tie, like I mentioned, a few months back, I would have been proud to know it.

Because it was all about somebody who would have backed me around so much that we didn't have the time to Uter in, except we already had him in.

Saturday and Friday, they went and shipped me from Texas.

Saturday and Friday, I was working as a fully independent operator.

They were just showing me that they were going to operate and wouldn't in any way try or allow me to be tried.

And the initial orders that there was going to be no independent operators doing anything,

But he is not.

It's absolutely true.

He is not in any way threatening his wife, nor his children.

I don't, I agree with this at all, in any way.

And Segretti isn't at all in any way except that Segretti was in communication with Hunt on other matters.

I'm not asking for the facts.

Well, those are the facts.

I mean, the facts help.

I just want to know what's going to come out.

Those are the facts.

And those are what are...

They have pretty much, Eurocanada has the facts pretty much on record.

Because it has problems with our bases.

That's the problem with Euro 42.

They're right.

They get hung for it.

I don't think anybody else in here has any way of putting it down.

I think it's quite probable that some reports came in here that included infectious stuff, data that came from the operation, but it was not identified in session over the years and that's where it was coming from.

That was not ordered.

I've been a lawyer for time.

I don't know about it.

Once we've got people in crime, I know there's been shuffling of proofs in every goddamn house.

There's something on the board.

There were 25 out of 175 who went up to endorse.

Yeah.

That's what they did.

That was a hell of a thing.

I'll tell you what.

I didn't think we were going to get a

They're just wearing it.

That's their business.

They're just wearing it.

Oh, no.

They're a smart hat.

Well, I saw them.

I said, who's they?

Who's they?

I said, I mean, even the ones on our side, they don't care.

Who's he?

I said, who's that?

As far as I can be sure, this is the only place where there are black people.

I don't think they're going to give it up immediately.

They might be able to get into the paper back into the Senate.

Hopefully they're going to do what we do.

After the election, I watched it totally.

I'm going to have to find somebody to help me.

Well, you just never know.

This guy's gotta worry about what the hell we know.

Oh, yes.

Rob?

Let me out of here.

Scoochie, we can stop bothering you with the union we just had.

I must say, Hall is the most impressive man I've seen in the office for a long, long time.

Really?

That's why he was meeting his hand-picked successor, Smart.

When he showed you the successor, he had the children.

Is he going to be able to make it back?

I'll go to him.

He just found that killing of all the things we invited him to.

Amazing thing, of course, that we invited him.

He said, we've missed him this week.

Well, anybody got him down, but he can't beat it.

And while he was laying on his pen, he, a jury of four, told him, said, we really got him crazy.

We did get him.

And I told him, I told him, Paul, it's nice that we can't sit on it.

He said, I don't worry about it.

He said, well, what can I do for you?

Illegal campaign contribution, 68.

So he said, let's share it.

And he beat the line and did it.

We're not going to speak.

Now he's absolutely ridiculous.

What did we say?

Absolutely ridiculous.

You guys should be dropped right after the election.

We just found out he's going to be dropped.

We have to go to jail and let's talk to everybody else if you really prosecute him.

We just invaded our local living room here.

We did.

What's in the hell for it?

of the union money over a three-year period with a box at the beginning of the second period.

So they had to get a press conference.

Don't think it was a bureaucracy.

It was fascinating because he had a press conference.

And of course, it was a big story.

This was a new design.

The press said, have you been asking for his eye?

And he said, no, I will at the moment.

And the next question was, would it actually be a little bit hostile or a little bit angry that the administration or the president of the U.S. didn't play a deal?

He said, no, it makes me feel a lot closer to the president.

The press phone went down to the police and said, now I know how he feels when he accuses me of all those things he doesn't do.

You know what I think of the fact that those people used to be working against us, the guys, and the guys, and the guys, and the guys, and the guys,

It would be better in San Francisco, it would be better in Seattle, it would be better in Baltimore, and better in New York, and Brooklyn, and New Jersey, and the whole New York area.

He put together, if you know this, what he's done.

Police, they show you the power of what he does.

And all the work we do, he does.

That's why it's true.

Police, gentlemen, everything we've done.

Marty Ward, John Dyer, Hunter Ward, Kenneth, John, Jeff, I don't remember.

Johnny Murphy, Mark Westry, which is Sam's assistant, Ed, Sam Wood, Joe Powell, Mr. Dredd, Jack West, I don't remember.

Take them all and ask them all if they're able to set a deal.

Get all the shit that was in there.

Get all the money.

They got money?

Well, I think we should have paid up President Conley for that broadcast.

I feel I don't want them to do that.

God damn it, why do we send them to the stands?

Because Conley don't take the money.

Conley is a rocky, total, unmitigated disaster as a political operator.

He is a brilliant political, active, and a fool.

Unbelievable disaster.

And he relies on unbelievable disasters.

The guy is beyond in front of the range.

We can't get money in there.

If you talk to the Senate, we've got McGregor, Hart McGregor, is working full time raising money for the Democrats for Action, the Facebook economy broadcast.

He's sitting there, he's going to show, you know, there are a lot of people under his, under his house.

They're running the goddamn television show.

Are they putting up the money?

Yes.

They really are.

But why the hell does Clark look good when he's doing that?

I don't know.

With Langer-Marks, it's totally his fault.

He has no sense of organization or ability to go in or delegate or get anything done.

He says, hey, this is your office, and what's all the people that ought to get done?

But none of these people will do anything about it.

So Clark's doing it.

Clark's peddling around trying to get Harry Coleman

That's tragic.

Does that show, with a little effort on the other party's part, it's worth $2 million?

Absolutely.

Yeah, I know.

I talked to him.

I haven't seen the reports on Dr. Schultz.

I've talked to Schultz.

He tells me very good stuff.

I don't know what the moral of the country is.

What is the best time?

At one percent.

But I can't.

The last one.

So what does it look like?

I don't know.

It doesn't kind of make any damn difference.

It brings down the COVID.

You still say the rate of inflation is about to happen.

That's what we're going to say.

If he's up and down, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

I want the...

on their meeting that I announced straight from the bar and I got to their meeting today, but I'm not going to do that.

I don't want to do it.

I think it's very important that that be tied in through the post-corporation.

It's basically a gap where you can stay in America.

So I think Chuck ought to go up to that too, you know, go up there and sit around and hear what they had already done.

They had mine.

I don't want to get Chuck to want to figure out if you're talking about cutting off shelters.

school lunches, and that sort of thing.

And on the other hand, we've got to make the issue so that this is a substantive issue in our head, you know, that shows why I'm good with it.

Who else?

Stein, and Earth, and they'll do the other work, and we'll bring some work with some strength.

I think you ought to take a good idea about it.

Sure.

Don't bother the first day.

It doesn't matter.

There's a meeting today and they're going to come up with some plans.

They're supposed to come down on that.

They're going to come up and pick you up tomorrow.

They're already put it out today.

It's their meeting today, whatever the listings were.

But I want them up there to get the working weekend at Camp David.

Now there's one problem that you have here Chuck with this.

I don't mind this for a couple of days, but as you understand, many of the rest is not our issue.

It is a defensive maneuver on our part.

We do not want people talking about and thinking about the issue of who got rolled in the Congress and taxes and all that sort of thing.

We don't want them talking and thinking about domestic issues except for

for the government's attack on welfare, I mean, the attack on him on welfare.

Basically, what we want the public people thinking of the last two weeks, John, are Vietnam and all of the collateral issues about that.

Defense and all of the issues that have to do with that.

And on the attack side, his welfare program.

You see, now,

I think also on the attack side, at a second level, the dirty campaign and the news mainly hit the Hitler on.

This one I think is necessary to do it because another secondary issue is crime and drugs.

We have to remember it is secondary to this crime and basically defensive.

What is the point is the last

Very good.

But you see what I'm concerned about?

I do not want us to shift the theaters of all the surrogates and so forth.

Shift them for a little bit, but we're just doing it in a second.

Next week, we should get back in high gear.

The last two weeks of the campaign, it's very important to have the people thinking about our strong issues rather than his.

Or his.

And attach them.

The Indians have a hell of a time.

Whatever we can say, yes, he didn't vote.

He's for higher taxes.

He's for higher prices.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

But on the other hand, we're not going to accept the parole for labor.

We're not going to come out with a damn tax thing right now.

We're not going to do this.

On the other hand, we're not going to, except for the girl's delay, we're not going to come out with a damn tax thing right now.

We're not going to do this.

Not now.

I've been doing versions of this.

I'm all for it now.

So that he doesn't get a leg up, so that it doesn't become an issue.

Every time that we bat him around or something, he's backed up.

I just wonder if we're not wasting any time doing anything wrong.

I don't know what you're doing.

It's not just television.

We've got to be watching.

All right.

I wasn't thinking of doing it, but the record sharing facility.

I'm not thinking basically.

You've got to just sit in the drawer.

It must have to come up.

There's no way it's going to come up when I have dinner and so forth and so on.

But the point is that it will show me spending the weekend kind of certainly working on how to dismiss the Congress letter rather than spending the weekend just writing a quarter of two radio speeches.

But it's Saturday morning, not Sunday, sir.

All right.

Good.

I don't think I'm a good speaker.

But we come up Saturday morning, we have a meeting, a meeting.

It's great to have them here knocking their brains off and see my time.

What's the purpose of coming up Saturday morning?

And they'll be back every Friday night.

It's the brief Saturday morning.

It's more than me.

The exact same defense last night with the president.

We'll see.

Yeah.

That was my turn to face you.

The whole purpose of all this is to give it a handle.

A handle.

And frankly, they've been around for a long time.

They all came back.

They've come back before the landfills.

Yeah.

They were left at that time.

Oh yeah, I'm not worried about that.

Yeah.

What do you think, Chuck?

I think the important thing is knowing the briefing takes place and the result.

Exactly.

And when they announce the vetoes that are, you know, the additional bills for the vetoes, the whole number on it, because you're not going to allow a tax increase.

It's about a home-back straw, and I want you to discuss this in the meeting.

I don't agree with that at all.

I think we should get it over with.

I think that putting out day after day,

I just don't want that to be our news.

I mean, I know you're talking about every time you veto something, you're vetoing higher taxes.

It probably kind of immediately will not be washed up.

I think doing it in one good package, St. Justine, and be done with it.

And then you veto for three of the damn things without a hard-hitting message.

Maybe ratio it.

What do you think?

Spread it through the week.

I'm not too keen on that.

I've been a big fan of it.

But vetoing spending is not a popular thing.

Because people...

The whole spending system actually has a good impact in terms of...

I should review against you, Texas.

My story is to be happy now.

See, the main, the thing I, Chuck, the thing I am concerned about is that sort of Tuesday, you'll have a little bit of a, you know, you can't throw something for, you know, you can't throw something for, you see, that'll begin to get rotten, you know, rather than the thing, you need to have higher taxes.

I want to jolt it, say it, and I'm proud of you guys for having said it.

And also, I want to get it back, I'm getting it back.

You just don't have something to keep it back.

Every time we meet, he makes a speech on it.

I'd rather have him talking.

You see, I want to get back on our issue, Chuck.

Monday is the New York business.

That's where we want the work to be.

Or we have two young men who said, gee, I don't know what's happening.

Well, that's not going to be the same day.

Yeah, all right.

But then it looks like you finished your work on the deadline.

All right, we won't do it then Tuesday.

Then Wednesday, the radio, right?

Right.

Education, education.

Right, yeah.

And that, when you see it, I reported that.

Chuck, we'll have a report this week on that.

Great.

First thing, we've got nothing as of now, except we infected that night.

It would be good to do something substantive that day to write down the news.

And the presence on it.

Exactly.

That's what I'm talking about.

a dam could stay on the horizon, or have a lake, a black line, strip mining, the future of that part of the sky.

That's for aliens.

That's true.

Well, maybe it is.

I'm not sure.

So this is the ESO.

We might make the peak.

We might make the peak, though, then.

But that'd be 39 acres, right?

Right.

I suggest this, Bob.

You sit in with, you and Chuck sit in this meeting.

Remember, we want you there to open the purpose for the reception.

I decided to leave it at that.

There you go.

Anyone?

Let me understand.

You want them to come up for dinner on Friday night?

Not with me.

They're going to go to law.

Right.

I've got to be thinking about it.

I've got to be working on my radio and also my remarks.

John understands that.

He says it's perfectly all right.

Sure.

That's it.

See, I will be there because I'm going to come back and fill it up.

They come up, they have dinner, they have a chat, you know, it's basically a side watch, but it's not bad.

And then they go on a helicopter and go back to Washington.

Fair enough?

Sounds alright to you, John?

Good idea.

It's the briefing you want, so if you have one more shot at it, we can have you take care of it seriously.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

But, for Christ's sake, I don't think that's a very happy thing.

Nobody asked me, do you want everybody to come back?

You can't say yes.

You can't say no.

You see the government in your hall.

I covered that hall.

I had a beautiful job.

I had a capital program.

They said, why is the president, why is he campaigning against the president?

Does he want to vote in Congress?

The president made it clear that he wants a Congress that supports his position.

That's what he said.

And he, Senator Eastman, they, you're zeroed in.

He said Senator Eastman has very strong support of the vote.

Correct.

It's a great way to do it.

It's a great way to let the Republican Party go.

And it's terribly important.

It's terribly important because, you know, the whole thing about Connecticut is just a muster.

They think that it was a sport conference.

They're scared of the fact that it will.

It does.

It will.

They say they're congressmen.

It isn't going to be possible for us to control the program.

We're going to die.

We'll see.

It's a whole problem.

Well, I know everyone's been on the boat, you know.

Well, they're sort of the down crowd.

Well, it's all mixing.

My little friend this morning was talking about the, in Kansas, they've got mixing documents, too.

Well, that's all that's good.

And he says you're sending your folks up the wall.

Well, this is what I've been doing.

Well, they're going to be fixing Kaczynski.

Yeah, the doctor's out in Chicago.

I'm going to go there, too.

That we cannot avoid.

How do people understand that?

The whole understanding.

I didn't mislead them.

Well, I don't know why that was the way.

It came close.

It actually was.

They had to.

What about the Congress?

What's the record?

I just gave the biggest one.

I said, well...

Frankly, on the domestic front, they get a positive mark for what they did in recognition.

Looking at all the major proposals that we recommended, they have a batting average of 200.

And when you go back and have a shot at batting, someone's got to bench because it's a material that's not going to work.

And that'll come right back to the record.

It's good stuff, too, the baseball season.

And also, Chuck, I do think that some people think the Congress made answers to themselves.

I don't know.

I don't understand what you're saying.

What does he go to?

Don't you see the other side of the story?

Well, they're ready to come to the administration now.

You set that job that you wanted us to have.

Thank you very much.

Let me ask you a checklist of a couple of reports.

Do you want any more controversy?

Exactly the right time.

Can you see it?

Can you hear it?

Can you see it?

And right on, he stayed right on the game.

I did that in every day, 10, 11 days.

I would suggest that about Monday, that we get to all the servants of the line in the last two weeks.

Put them up there.

I mean, don't bug out in Vietnam, Hensley, you know.

No, we will not be second.

No reprieves or anything, the whole Vietnam complex and the O.W.

And then, the second type of government was more people in the welfare, and the racist fascist regime.

Third,

But those two weeks must be handled meticulously.

What else would you suggest?

You can't give them too much for the plate in the last two weeks.

That's it.

You said it.

I wrote, but you don't consider headers to be cutting.

Oh, blessing in some places.

Drive, drive, so forth.

There's no like easy blessing.

I think, I think that what we have across.

Well, when people go into Michigan.

Oh, sure, you may.

I'll explain, sorry, this is when you drop camping on people.

Well, as a matter of fact.

Well, as a matter of fact, thank you.

I noticed.

That's a good line.

I wonder about his tours around town or something.

Oh.

Yes, yes, yes.

.

If you have any other different views on this, either you or Bob, it's very important to have a decision on this issue.

Cut your losses on corruption.

Cut your losses.

By attacking them is the greatest attack on the president in history.

Cut your losses on economics.

You don't have to worry about the major thing of the corruption.

to get our people to turn that around and ask the president.

The only way to just turn it around is as much as something you can't make.

Now,

What about the Segretti recruiting 50 men?

As I said, there isn't any point in discussing the rule of the ministry.

The important thing here is that the governor wants to give you $1,000.

I mean, he just totally, he didn't even make any attempt to play with the question.

And then he'd give out a five-minute speech, and I wouldn't let him interrupt.

He'd just go babbling off on that.

And there's a reason he did it.

And everyone's going to read, and he wants to know where the assignment is going to be, because he's going to say they're meeting with you, and they're going to guess.

Are you going to just put them in all of them today or tomorrow?

I don't want them to just say that they're worried.

I want them to say, why don't they say it in the executive office, though?

I don't want to keep them in the person, because I want them to get their game plan.

I want them to take it over, because otherwise it would just be a full session.

I don't know.

So really what I did was use a Schultz drill and I asked myself to do that.

That's pretty much it.

The function of the self-touch.

Schultz cracking the Congress and saying, we're going to hold the line this time.

The tax haven in Congress.

And they're all going to do the work.

So that's good for the day.

And I'm going to come back and refund the result of all of it.

Reach it out of your eyes.

Sunday morning, that gives us a damn good Sunday program.

We'll bring up all of the state-by-state, both the Sunday morning papers.

We're going to be able to do that.

How many more people are going to be added to whatever?

Each day is where we want to send this down.

What I will do is I have buckets of L.A.K.

Go over to Laurel and have a drink with them and then go back to your house.

But I shouldn't eat with them because I don't want to spend the time.

I thought that I would go over and have a meeting with them and Laurel for a half hour.

And then up there at 5, you meet with you at 5.30.

Frankly, it would be a little better if they came around 4.30.

I have a meeting, so, you know, we'll talk to her and we'll work.

We've got to write.

Somebody can't vote.

You've got a problem?

Check.

Teddy Gleason, I never go to the city.

You don't need to go.

No, no, no.

Bob, you can cover the base.

Teddy Gleason asked me to, as a favor, to sit with him when he dies, and you're going to embrace him.

John Fitzgerald, Andy DeWard, and the Sons of the Sanctuary.

Go ahead.

Well, Bob, if you have got the, Bob, you've got the drill.

I'm not sure if you've got the thing.

And anything you want to pass on, I can really run it.

No.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't even worry about it.

It isn't hard for me.

And maybe this meeting is basically pretty much a right turn down.

It's helpful.

It's absolutely everything.

But what you said, what you said with me, I wish you could do it.

I wasn't there.

I wish you could.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

I should think they'd want to stay and see Connery.

Well, they'd all see Connery.

They should see Connery at 8 o'clock.

They should not.

They should see Connery first.

I'm trying to get them back to Tennessee.

All right.

Good.

Well, the issues that you were talking about in the last few weeks was what I agreed to with you.

I attacked him again in the morning.

You know, when you, uh,

Think about the issues that we've had with the President.

The government has started this state-by-state program.

And now, we have a government that's spurting me to go take to the push.

I don't know.

I don't think we should.

It's a different format, maybe, that the government needs to take on.

It's the same program.

But people are all asking about the wiretaps.

And you're going to go, you're going to go ahead and tell me about it.

Well, this is a political question.

I assume that I expect my dad to object.

How does the whole program exchange with the government?

How many times do you change his mind about one thing or another?

In other words, senior questions like amnesty, abortion, marijuana are probably out here around the school bus.

The governor's advisors profess to be happy about the whole thing because it gave the candidate a chance to answer Cheney's direct.

They've also said that Cheney isn't afraid to come out before the president or the president picks him out from the way out.

But to those gathered around the building and said the governor's question, the executive candidate was still coming across as being offensive about the issue with the borders throughout the campaign.

to come straight out of the White House political radio.

And of course they had problems with the talk.

And they couldn't hear the questions being asked.

And at one point he said, you know, you need to be patient with us because we're trying to get the vote.

Then at one question he said, well his answer was, I'd like to be able to hear everybody's questions.

That wasn't a proposal, but it sounded like an honorable question.

So he moved away from that one.

I think it's not a rightful proposal.

What I've suggested is to guarantee a job for everybody's daily worth.

The next man would refuse the government of changing the plan.

That's why it's so hard to question and shake our heads if the government changes the mind of the NFC code and tax reform at that time of the year.

The governor.

Tell me the issues in which I've changed my mind.

I think it's time to be retired, Carson.

Sergeant Shriver himself said you are for total agency, okay?

I am for total agency.

I'm not for agency for this reason, and I never have been.

Carson, the last thing Sergeant Shriver said, when you let George McCutcheon speak to George McCutcheon, oh, we employees, now what else have I changed my mind then?

In that film with the eagle and the bear, Carson said you were a dozen percent behind him, right?

The vice-presidential candidate at this moment.

The governor then had to explain that he could find an equal to the last person in prison.

The neighbors decided to replace him because he was in medical practice.

Can you imagine these guys?

A hundred and fifty.

Ten stations.

A hundred and fifty cars.

Yeah.

Well, I hope that they, I hope they believe that, because people do believe in something.

I think that, of course, to see that, it gets to the typical attitude of the establishment.

You know, they always want the man to come out and ask you questions.

Or, should you get out there and ask it yourself?

Well, this is not asking a question.

Now, the worst thing he said in the back is, by that language, it's real questioning.

He's proven the boldness of that television question and answer that he did.

Where they didn't ask a single question about any one of those things.

They asked questions like, why do you want to be president, Senator, and what will you do for the country?

When I was at a statement, moving on to where I was, the government said, it is screening the president in this country.

These aren't just questions, these are arguments.

These are people probably going to feel that I'm helping.

I've come here to sit in my line.

Now they're going to screen the questions.

And I can read everything you ask.

I'm going to go and make scores on some issues that you score on others.

You're the way that I trust.

It was done in a nation, you know.

What's that?

Corruption.

The public rated us a devilish enemy.

The government, I'm telling you, has corruption.

It's consistent.

It's consistent, but with all of the working crap that's going on over there.

The government, they call it as crapping around.

I don't mean any of that kind of stuff.

It's only affecting the political animal.

You can't email and shop over here.

I'm very worried about the second thing, that they shouldn't be going to their job.

But this second thing doesn't affect, what can affect the election at this point, is our events.

In my opinion, the events, and I don't know if they have anything.

I don't think they have anything.

Well, I guess it's not that significant.

I think it's better than banging around.

They really can't, they could have just brought in somebody that's going to handle it.

It's really not going to make a difference.

It's dramatic.

And this guy's, this guy's credibility and presence is defensive.

But then the part is, how he's coming across as a man, that's what we have to check.

If you stay true to these two things, I suppose, you know what I mean?

Even when you're being bad, there's a tendency to be for the man in question.

If the man's being questioned, you can kind of listen to the judge's sensitivity or admiration for some of those parts of this.

It doesn't spark it.

So the thing about, just like Johnson, you know, people with this tough, often politicized country.

You've got to follow it, right?

And he calls them up and says, why did you do this?

Somebody has to do it, though.

Somebody has to do it.

And, uh, I don't know if you see what I'm doing.

Yeah.

Yes, I'm doing it.

I'm doing it.

One of the things I said to him was to do that again.

He said, I get all excited about it.

You can show it to everybody.

You know, you can fix it up.

I don't know.

But getting back to that, this sort of, what do you think, Chuck, about getting televised?

They'll get it approved.

They'll learn.

They'll start treating questions and all that.

But if you give them an opportunity to get across to people as a pleasant man, trying to do his best, you know,

I believe he's now beyond that point where he can rebuild his personal image.

You think so?

Yeah, I don't think he can rebuild his personal image.

The only thing he can do is try to find one thing to hang on to and hope for.

You know, two weeks earlier, he said he'll stick to one point.

the economic issue.

That's why, I mean, so we can, we can talk about it and get it back, but it's not something that, but his whole game plan, in a desperate position he's in, should be probably about the economic issue.

Rally back the Democratic Party with jobs and employment.

strategy of how we ran this campaign.

And how quickly we can see that once the heat came pinpoint, it should be ripped.

Watergate case, right?

Which caused about 60% of this effort to do less.

Trying to peddle the line that only about 20% of the people in the country had even a taxing interest in it.

And only 3% of the people

The most brilliant item of strategy against George Wallace out of the race was to get in the water game.

The other thing it accomplished is it kept a lot of our people busy worrying about it.

And that's the way that they're going.

I'm screwing something up right now.

Yeah.

Well, I'm back.

I was talking about the time that our assholes are on for the next two weeks.

I wouldn't give anything if they studied it.

Even if I did, I'd say last-minute smear.

Whatever it is, last-minute smear.

That should be Ron's thing.

It started right after our next two.

I'm not going to comment on any last minute smears.

The last minute desperation, the last minute smear, because people expect that from us.

Tremendous.

As a matter of fact, a breaker should warn if he has a state of death.

Is he doing that?

Or has he done it yet?

I remember that was one of Len Paul's great books.

So Len would do that every time.

He swarmed the last minute smears and he did it about this time.

They've already telegraphed their punches.

Do you know what their line is?

That's the aspiration, probably.

You could also say that people are listening.

Yeah, A, that people are listening, and B, that by building, building, building, you can finally get the money through.

It actually touches on.

That's their thought.

I don't know.

That's the point.

I don't know.

No, I can't see.

He's being fine.

I can't wait for him to come and press it back.

I can't wait.

That's a good issue.

And some people cannot get administration.

They've got to get back to the sexy issue.

You know, that's good.

You should be talking to the president.

Or the president.

Or everybody at work.

I said moral crisis and corruption.

You see, those are the two issues that maybe he's going to write.

Maybe he's going to get off of Vietnam.

How the hell can he get off of Vietnam?

He has to.

He has to, yes.

He was going to make Vietnam the agent for the rest of the campaign.

He was going to go all out and launch this big super surrogate thing.

Everybody, everywhere was jumping on Vietnam.

He gave the biggest speech.

Everybody went.

I heard the man jumped out of a moral cell.

That was the anxiety arrest.

Poor bastard picked up his knee every time.

That was the end of it.

He didn't have a issue.

In Carson, he can't get Scotty arrested for that.

Where has he possibly been arrested?

He doesn't do republic shit, huh?

What, Bill Dunn?

Yeah, Bill.

Yes, he won.

He won absolutely nothing on that.

He lost.

He lost to some people who didn't let him go.

It's not what they all say.

He went and he fought.

Even the worst of them don't want to go and take the gun out of the hands of the poor old foop that's out there shooting people in the head and all.

And I'd request he had prior position to clarify things that we asked him to do.

But sometimes it's better just to swallow the wine.

But he's putting out an explanation.

And then he makes it worse.

He's lost Vietnam and has to have decided he's lost it.

They'll rob it out of here and there.

But with Henry bouncing around in the first place, he knows he would.

something that may happen, even though they have the fact that it's not going to be as good at all.

Yeah, in evil times.

I mean, Henry's got it.

Henry's got it.

I don't know who decided on that stuff.

He took over.

He says, you know, I did not know he'd get in there.

I know he said he didn't get in there.

Yeah, he got a point.

I mean, that's what I reported in the airport about Henry's case.

He said, well, he should have done this four years ago.

I think he should give up Vietnam.

Whatever he's got on that, he's got.

He's got on blue is basically his radical support for Vietnam.

And he isn't going to glean any other.

So he's got to keep his mouth shut and get something else.

His radicals will stay with him.

He doesn't have to stay anymore on it.

So what do you have to do to get the hell out of the, what is it?

All right, so you said somebody was very hard on you.

All right, that's the best part of it.

That's when the central, just like how Barry told you, you've got to get out of the campaign.

You've got to volunteer as far as you can.

Yeah.

The central thing is, what's happening?

What's happening?

What's happening tonight?

I'm not sure about tonight.

You're not sure about tonight?

No, maybe, yeah, I mean, you're not.

The biggest mistake that he made, the strategy was to be honest, and not be able to say I'm a woman.

Even when he announced that he was going to stay with Vietnam, he gets shot down and quit.

And then he says that he gives a speech on corruption, and that's not what I want, and that's what he gives, just doing anything.

I heard that last week, six months old, now he's going to give his speech

and stuff.

Taxes and economic business have a significant impact on every business.

They walk away from it in a rush.

You only have taxes three times as much in a rush.

You should pay taxes in full person.

You've got to pay taxes for both.

You've got to replace the federal ones.

And if he does, the main thing is we've just got to not talk about that issue.

We've got to hit him once, and then do it, and then talk about it.

Secondary levels, the big guns, we've got to hit him on Vietnam, national defense, the whole bipartisan foreign policy, and the fact that he's angry for the welfare goals.

I must say that the Russian people, they came from the heart of the West.

You know what they did?

They started to pass out, right?

This is the kind of thing that started to happen in the 80s and 90s.

Sure.

And go back.

Take a problem and do this.

Do this.

They're sure they've approved that issue for us.

They're working on it.

And the reason why it's hard for that issue is because they're not consistent.

Yeah.

I'm sure that's all about it.

They can go back.

I left a bunch of them out.

That's the end of that.

Perfect.

Okay.

That was what I was going to do.

So I'm going to let you get to it.

Yeah, that's good.

The defense of murder comes from the strength of your number.

I'll just tell you about it in a moment.

Oh, don't keep saying it about me.

I'll tell you at least three minutes.

The hardest one I know, the hardest in the county, is the one that brought us around to the rescue.

I'll try to do it again.

Thank you very much.

They know where to play.

It's a very important game.

They know what they have to do.

It's the first thing the rest of us do.

How do they play that game?

That's the last thing.

You're opening the line.

That's the first thing.

Well, they're crazy.

Crazy.

Are they going to tell you if we're accurate, or shall they still publish it?

No.

No?

We'll walk inside.

I don't know if you want to go right across the street.

No, take it.

I'm going to go to the right.

Right at the base.

Yes, sir.

Just one.

Why are you retiring?

Oh, he's in town.

I don't want to go tomorrow.

You can do it Tuesday.

Monday morning before you go to New York?

No.

I learned to hand save it over the weekend?

No.

Tuesday is a problem, but I mean, you can do it.

Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll do it.

I don't want to go to New York.

What time do we leave Kent for, uh, for, uh, Marlin, Philadelphia?

Yeah, I don't think so.

What is the purpose of this one?

I had a problem with it before, about a month ago.

I was stuck in the rules here, you know?

Well, you've got a minute for it.

I could do it tomorrow morning.

Tomorrow morning.

10 o'clock.

10.30.

Well, you see, that's a... Maybe she's getting up.

She's getting up.

Don't breathe.

I don't think we'll breathe tomorrow.

And that'll give me a cutoff time, too.

And you'll have to take a run up there.

A pleasant road would be a ride.

I get a lot of riders from great countries who don't want to get in place in a long hurry.

So go in general direction.

There we go.

OK.

Very good.

If you're going to chop her up in here tomorrow, is that your plan?

There's a plane going up.

I don't want to go in that place.

It's a problem.

I don't want to go in that place.

But if he gets you into it, well, I don't know.

I didn't get you off, but I don't want to write to you.

I don't have a lot of money, and I have this meeting with Westmoreland, and I thought, what kind of money do I have?

But when they put it in, it's a thing I can get up there and get in the way.

That's the point.

I have a reason to be in the meeting with Westmoreland, and it's not good enough.

And I think they're going to put it in.

All right, fine.

You say you have business here.

No problem.

You don't have to have an excuse.

No.

I hate to say, I don't have a lot of money.

No.

I don't want anybody on the chocker with me.

I'll be working.

Well, I don't mind any of our .

I don't want any.

That's all .

I'll be just sort of .

If you're stuck, .

That's right.

No problem.

clear out the chopper, and then drive part way, the chopper comes and picks you up, part way back to Camp David.

Yeah, I'd love to just pick a nice, nice little high school field or something.

But I want to drive for about an hour.

And then at what time we finish, we start walking up there.

All right.

Thank you.

That's what I got in my mind.

I'd like to drive about an hour and a half, let's put it that way.

And then helicopter rescue.

Okay.

like they used to do, like the backline that we drove through, or the backline that we drove through.

Or the time you drove through.

Same kind of operation as from Sam Copeland's house, that time.

Yeah.

Remember, you drove down to the helicopter, and instead of getting on, you just stayed in the car and went off?

This time, I would not.

I don't have any certain plans to stop, probably.

I mean, not, because obviously, they don't see an opportunity.

Yeah, but what do you do?

Is it only possible to make it an event?

Well, it depends.

But I don't see how it can be that total.

That's my point.

Well, we have a dozen to go.

If you picture almost the worst, we need it.

You have to settle.

And everybody hears about it.

And then, on about Friday before the election, Jim gets assassinated and the communists take over the Capitol.

It could happen.

Then you've got a problem.

But I can't imagine that that's going to help the government.

If you had the same guy against you, that might hurt you.

Because your plan would then have failed, but where's his plan?

And what will people do in the case of a crisis like that?

They'll turn to you, because they think you know how to deal with it.

No matter, even if you create it.

That's why you can't do that on a day of business.

Okay.